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Done. Be careful, however, as not all math is really that fun to comprehend. (Trust me, I know.) Your bane is that your head doubles in size, so you look like Megamind or The Leader, or whomever you can think of. I wish for one miiiillion dollars. -whispering in background- Ah I see. Eh-Hem. I mean, one triiiillion dollars.

Couldn't a Kandra, theoretically, keep a piece of a body alive, by pumping blood to it? For instance, instead of digesting, say, a chin, they could just hold it in place with bits of flesh, and keep it alive. Then, the chin could grow a beard, by itself, while the Kandra only has to keep the chin working. Yeah... Thats a little gross.

Hey, my wish was to be made Warren Buffet's heir. I'll pay my way out of this one. Your Wish is granted, you now not only have a cat, but you have the perfect cat, due to the nightwatcher being a perfectionist. Your bane is that the Cat is a Catquisitor. With spikes. I wish for some ham.

Essence Marks have to do with Connections(I think.), which is a Spiritual thing(I think.). I.E. Duralumin, which deals with connections, is a spiritual metal. Hemalurgy effects a Cognitive change, changing your spirit web, which I think is Cognitive and Spiritual, by basically stapling other things on. Hemalurgy is not effected by how probable a change is. Soul Forgery is. I was wondering if you could use soul forgery, in some way, maybe in conjunction with Hemalurgy, to effect an improbable change.

I've got lots of questions today. 1. Can someone with a huge amount of Breath, say, Susebron or Vasher, give away their Divine Breath, and somehow use their vast sum of normal breath to stay alive? 2. How much of a persons cognitive aspect/shadow, or soul web can you steal with hemalurgy? 3. Would a type IV awakened object steal investiture from another? 4. Can Soul-Forgery be used to alter a persons cognitive aspect? I feel like it is more the spiritual aspect. However, I was wondering if you can use it to alter something like Hemalurgy does. 5. Could you awaken a Hemalurgic spike to use it's power in some way? Or A metal mind to release itself, with itself as a focus?

Guys, be more careful. We skipped this guy! Your wish is granted. You now speak all known languages. At the same time. You also understand all known languages. Your bane? The night watcher decides to go easy on you, considering the poor phrasing of your request. You now smell like very ripe bananas. This is not always bad, as some people like how bananas smell. I suppose. You get it. Your bane is that you are transported to Moscow, Russia, and have ONLY that gift card. You have a vague air of untrustworthiness about you, as well. Have fun getting back. My Extra-Large wish, for granting to wishes, is that I am named heir of Warren Buffet, and gain Allomantic Zinc, and Feruchemical Zinc and Copper.

Cool! Have a cookie!

Personally, I am going to have to say I like Stormilght better than Mistborn as well. I do not dislike Mistborn, I just prefered/prefer reading Stormlight. Anyway, welcome to the 17th Shard! Here's a cookie!

Welcome to the forums! Have a welcome cookie, on behalf of the 17th Shard!

And half of all numbers are 'Evil'. This makes me a little worried about doing math.

You obviously do not understand L-Space... Why me? Eh-Hem. Anyway... Done. Not sure why you would ask for that. But there, you are now a member of a suspiciously suspicous conspiracy. Your bane; You have an extremely difficult time keeping a secret. Good luck with that. I wish to have a life-long supply of Bananas, just in case.

Cool. Nice to know I was right. Probably. So, depending on how similar the everstorm is to a normal highstorm, Nightblood would probably draw large amounts of investiture from it, because he does it constantly, and forcibly. Also, if the everstorm is 'evil', then it is even more likely he would attempt to 'destroy' it. However, we have to remember that Nightblood's definition of 'evil' is a little warped.

Granted, Brandon asks you, personally, to be a beta reader. Your bane; You forget how to read, and must relearn this. By the time you learn it again, everyone has a copy of the book. (Or so many people that being a beta tester no longer matters. Accept for the prestige, of course.) I wish to have a secret, giant library, so big, that it warps L-Space. (Someone who has read Discworld had better answer this, or it will make no sense.)

Awesome. Even more awesome. Edit: Found that quote. 7 INTERVIEW: Jan 24th, 2015Barnes & Noble (Newnan) QUESTIONCan you give us some more tidbits about Hoid? BRANDON SANDERSONCan I give you some more tidbits about Hoid? He loves bacon. *laughter* TAGS Hoid,

No Problem. Although it would be cool if you made the picture a link to the post I made. What I said about bacon translates to his consummation of investiture uses a combination of stormlight-like investiture, and breath-like investiture, and because of this, he cannot use certain parts of some magic systems. What he cannot use is 'rendered' off, into the black smoke-like stuff he emits when wielded.

I may have too static a view of Platonic Ideals. However, what I am saying is not that there must be one ideal of Honor, to the detriment of the fact that different cultures have different definitions, but instead that because different cultures have different definitions, there must be one overall definition, that encompasses them all. There is only one shard of Honor, however we have seen several different planets. Therefore, that shard must be relatively all-encompasing, or it would not work. I am saying that it does set the definition, but is also effected by it. I think that it would take a pretty massive change in the definition of Honor, cosmere-wide, before it would change. This is what I am basing my 'static' definition of Honor on. Because Adonalsium is a cosmere-wide (deity? Power?) he would have set the definition, to start with. He may be affected by his creations, however it is unlikely that he would be vastly effected by them. I may have stated this in a confusing way. Already, I see flaws in this argument, however I do not have time to go into further detail on this topic.

As awesome as this sounds, and as cool the idea of Investiture being evil is... I gotta say no. I think there is a WoB that he is just corrupting the investiture. I know that there are a few WoB that conflict on this issue, but I am going to say that he is just corrupting it. And, even if he is 'Destroying' Investiture, I doubt that it is a direct function of his Command. Also, I think that the way he 'destroys' investiture is largely because he consumes vast quanities of it, And he uses it in such a way that most of it is rendered useless. Sort of like, when you cook bacon, you always end up with a smaller piece of bacon then you started with, because excess fat/oils are rendered away. Yes ladies and gentlemen, investiture is basically bacon.

It is not really something to worry about, at least in my opinion. I certainly am not bothered, although I do not claim to know what others think. I agree. Also, I beleive you are right about spren having a society of some sort, maybe even different nations. Perhaps 'highspren' are the goverment of said society? Or possibly the military police, like the skybreakers may have been? During the passages with the cryptics, and Shallan and Pattern, I always got the impression of government. I would love to here what Nedyah and Confused think of the idea that multiple (more than just two.) spren combine to form sapient spren. It may also be possible that Sapient spren are just spren who have been superboosted by Honor/Cultivation.

Do you have a WoB for the Sapientspren thing? I personally have never seen it. I am fully aware that I could be wrong. You are probably right about the fact that we do not have enough evidence from to books to find a conclusive answer to these questions. However, it is fun to theorize, and I, personally, like confused's idea that two spren combine to form a (Highspren? Sapientspren?). However, if we say two, why stop there? We could have several different spren combining to form Surgebinding/Sapient/High spren. We could even have both emotion spren (from Honor) and physical spren (from Cultivation.) combining to give the effect that Surgebinding/Sapient/High spren give. As I said above, if Confused's posit about spren combining to make Surgebinding/Sapient/High spren is true, than it is possible that Syl and Wyndle are both Honorspren and Cultivationspren, combined. As I stated, I really have no solid evidence for this. I just think it is a cool idea. Also, he actually used Highspren for Skybreaker spren and Honorspren for spren like Syl. So I was disagreeing with him, and you. He actually said what you are saying. However, if what you stated is true, and Honorspren IS the name for all spren like Syl, and Cultivstionspren is the name for spren like Wyndle, then alL I have said is wrong. It also opens up a whole host of new questions. Why are so-called 'Highspren' higher than normal spren? Are they Skybreaker spren, or are they the somehow the Hierarchy of the spren? Maybe the ones who 'sent' Pattern to study humans? I feel that, if spren can take on personalities, and change, that they may have formed some sort of goverment. Finally, I have to say that, in a series with so much content, and only two books published, it would be rash to think we will get very far trying to theorize about these things. This is not to say 'Stop trying.', for who knows? Maybe we will latch onto a theory that has real merit. Also, Nedyah. You said, quite blatantly, that Confused and I were wrong about several points. If you disagree with the ideas we preseneted, do you perhaps have some of your own you would like to put forth on the subject? Also, I do not beleive that you provided any concrete evidence disproving Confused's theory. I understand that it is too early to say it is certainly right, but we do not, as of yet, have any evidence saying it is false. Edit: I looked into the Highspren Honorspren thing, and the Wiki agrees with you two. So, at least on that bit, I was wrong. C'est la vie. It really does not effect the overall scheme of the theories. Another interesting note is that the wiki calls the Spren for light weavers Cryptics, not liespren whatsoever. It even says that Brandon called them 'Truthspren' before they were called Cryptics.

Yes it did. And here are, in no particular order, my thoughts on what you have said. You really like posting long theories, huh? I agree that 'Honorspren' can lie. Interestingly enough, I did an essay on lying ( Whether it is Good, Bad, or Neutral.) recently, and personally I beleive that it could be 'good' or 'honorable' to lie in certain circumstances. I also sort of agree that Pattern did not really lie, however, he definitely tried to deveive Shallan. She even said 'You lied to me!' The sentence 'lies are the shadow that illuminate the truth.' is odd. I think you meant something like 'Lies are the shadow illuminated by the truth' or something. I agree that Honor is mostly the glue, but he definitely boosts power. While gravity spren appear when something - gravity-y?- happens, usually there are a lot of them and by themselves, they could not 'control' gravity. Also, he allows for stormlight intake, and a few other things. I am sure cultivation also provides some stuff. I beleive you are using Honorspren to mean spren for Windrunners, when all Surgebinder spren are Honorspren, as per the idea that the suregbinder spren are of both Honor and Cultivation. I think oyu made the same mistake with highspren, saying they are only for Skybreakers, when I though (Personally.) Highspren were any spren who could think properly. Or something similar. This seems very interesting, however, there is no proof for your statements. Also, I think this is worded oddly, and I may be misunderstanding it. Are you saying that a Shards intent does affect it's magic systems? If so, how? Also, it may be that a Shards original personality affetcs it magic systems. Something to think about. This is true. I said this as well. I am not sure whether this is said in the books or not. I also agree that some concepts can change over time. For instance, depending on what is considered 'glorious' by the culture, gloryspren could appear at different times. However, i doubt certain fundamentals (Ragespren, for instance) would really change. Also the shard of Honor, for the whole cosmere, is not likely to be changed much by one planets definition. I find it unlikely that it would realy change at all, instead representing one, universal, Honor example. Also... Brandon said that spren were based off of Platonic Ideals/Forms. Some things we definitely knew. But you summarized everything nicely, and brought some new ideas to the table. Have an upvote. And the whole thing makes me think, it was really intellectually stimulating. Also, forgive me if I make mistakes, or repeat myself, or say/spell things wrong/oddly. I took a long time writing this, and was interupted a few times. Because of this I likely forgot some things I already said, or said some things that I did not mean.

We have a WoB that he would try to eat the mists, but because they are somewhat sentient, they would draw back. 41 INTERVIEW: Aug 20th, 2014 Steel Ministry Report - PhantomMonstrosity (Verbatim) PHANTOMMONSTROSITYLet's say some mistborn jerk tosses Nightblood into the mists. What happens?BRANDON SANDERSON I suspect the mists would pull away from Nightblood though he'd try to feed on them.TAGS nightblood, mists, So, yes, he could probably eat the mists, if they did not draw back. A highstorm is less sentient than the mists, in my opinion. I think the idea is that Stormlight sorta floats around during, and/or is released during a highstorm. In that way, I bet he could absorb the ambient stormlight.

Done. You are now a gold feruchemist. However, you have no gold, because you are currently on the moon/mars. (I lost track. Which was it? ) Your bane is that you now cannot abide eating anything that is green. I wish that I was an Inkheart. (From the Inkspell series. I do not wish to have a heart made of ink, so no misinterpreting here.)

This is true. Oops. This is what happens when you post when you are overtired.

Scadrians, I believe. Also, A platonic ideal means, basically, that there is one, irrefutable base, upon which everything is based. So, by that standard, spren cannot change, unless you change the 'spiritual' base upon which it is based. So, Fire Spren are unlikely to change, ever. The same way that a Stick is unlikely to change into fire without doing some serious convincing that it should be fire. On the same note, Brandon seemingly implies that there is more to it than that. So, for instance, Angerspren are always going to appear when someone is angry. However, you appear to be talking about Liespren, which is a misnomer. These spren are splinters of a Shard, and they have the capability to learn, as shown with Syl. Liespren do not appear when someone lies. So, they are not the type of spren that are based on a human ideal. Honorspren do not appear around someone when they are being honorable. On the original topic, I think it makes sense that Wyndle is a cultivation spren, if not THE cultivation spren. He is certainly a spren, who appears to be of cultivation. I agree that an Honorspren would likely not lie, seeing as they are 'Honorable.' However, keep in mind that Windrunner ideals are very hard-and-fast. There is another thread on that, I believe. Syl, the only real Honorspren we have seen, hates lying. This may have more to do with her being a Windrunner spren than anything else. Other Honorspren may see lying in some cases, to be Honorable. We really do not have enough information to tell. However, Wyndle not only lies, he lies without purpose, which is certainly dis-honorable. However, he is bad at it, which may lead us believe that he is trying to learn how to lie, because it is hard. And it may be hard, because it is not Honorable, and he is an honorspren. We just do not know. I do see a good bit of evidence that he is a spren of cultivation, even though it is not 'hard' evidence. But we have so little of that, in general. The fact that he deals with regrowth could point to that. The fact that he 'cultivates' truth, and/or lies could point to that. But Syl could be said to 'cultivate' Kaladins honor. I realize I am arguing with myself. I believe this to be because there is no way to get a concrete answer, without Brandon's say-so, or some more concrete facts. As A final note, I do think it makes sense for Wyndle to be a cultivation spren. However, I personally think that most surgebinder spren could be classified as the same, to some extent. Aren't surges of Cultivation and Honor?

AThe Nightwatcher tells you sadly that there is no way to bypass something so powerful, so fundamental, as the upvote limit. BHowever, the weather is no big deal. CThe second half of your wish is granted. DYour part of the country is now cool, with gentle rainstorms. EYou will probably get bored of that eventually. (I can say from experience.) FYour bane is that you now smell slightly of garlic all the time. Nothing you do can fix it. GI wish that the previous two banes GIVEN to me would stop working.