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Furamirionind: Fura started out by saying that they would be mainly voting based on RP, and that the optimal voting strategy is to go after the Nobles. He also said that Nobles buying bodyguards is something he wouldn’t recommend, which I find odd. Fura also said that he didn’t see Linguistic Analysis as a good way to go after elims, which is opposite to the way I’ve been using it (scanning people with reads to find elims). @Furamirionind, do you still agree with your early takes? Fura mentioned Bard as a possible elim fairly early on (T2M1), which could either be a legitimate read or could just be early distancing. He went after me for trying to spread out votes, which is fairly NAI in my opinion. He ended up voting for Bard when the lynch was him vs Lopen, which is another good sign. As I’ve mentioned before, he went after Silber pretty hard, based on him saying two El’the was good luck. He then pivoted to putting Silber as 99% village, which I still find slightly odd. He then made a reads post that I mostly agree with. Also, I just noticed an edit that said this: “I did a reread of many of my previous games last night, and I'd like to point out to Straw that you apparently just have an issue with my play-style in general.”. I’d be curious to see some examples if you remember them. He defended me with STINK, which could be his genuine opinion, or just an attempt to get me to stop suspecting them. I’m curious what was going on with him and Karnage saying he was fishing for info. He said that I had been “under a lot of scrutiny early game”, which I still don’t think is accurate. Fura voted on Hael and Lopen last turn, which looks good because Hael was a Skindancer, but in their vote for him Fura said that Hael was “firmly a neutral read for me all game”, so I’ll put it down as NAI leaning village. Recently, they stab voted Karnage for not following up on the fishing for info thing. I’m supportive of that, and I’d like an answer from Karnage as well. Whew, this ended up being almost 400 words total, but I won't split it. Overall, slight elim read on Fura. Yeah, I made a list of everything people could have lied about so I could choose who to scan. The people I listed are the people I scanned.
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I'm looking for possible lies where I can either confirm someone as a student or reveal information about the elim team if they flip elim. If a student had said, that, it would have been no lie. If you were an elim who said that, it could have been a lie or not a lie, but it reveals information about the elims if you flip. EDIT: also, I'm just looking for any possible lies so I can confirm stuff.
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Never mind, I found it:
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Huh, that must have been someone else.
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Elkanah: Elkanah had basically no reads up until T3M1. Before then they had just posted RP (understandable since they're Ruh) and thoughts on game mechanics. They suggested that Bard's lie was just RP, but ended up voting on him because he was El'the and had voted for Elkanah. After that, they didn't say much. On T4M1, they voted on Zillah for being an inactive El'the. They did some analysis of fields that people are in, which I suppose could be seen as an elim thing to do. It's something I'd do though, so I don't find it suspicious. They said they had a bad gut read on me but recently said their view of me had improved. Interestingly, they said they trusted Burnt less @Elkanah, if you trust me more, and my lie scan implies that Burnt is a village, wouldn't that mean you'd also read her as more village? Neutral for now, and I'd like to see the reads list they promised. Here are the notes I took last turn on Araris, Burnt, Hael, and things they could have lied about: (I have more for other players but most peoples' are really brief) Araris Valerian: -Reads Bard as village, Rath as elim, Devotary as elim, Fura as village, Hael as more village than before -Disagrees with Hael’s elim read on Straw -Thinks elim is trying to become Master in Naming -Doesn’t share Karnage’s suspicions Burnt Spaghetti: -Was not expecting T4M2 results -Reads of people Haelbarde: -Bad that Experience didn’t point out Zillah death chance -Reads of people
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Elandera: Elandera didn't really have any reads until T3M1, where she read Lopen as neutral and Xino as an elim. She voted for both Xino and Bard that month (it was the month where Xino accused Bard of lying). In T3M2, Elandera continued to express suspicion of Xino, and asked someone to kill bard so we could get a flip. She also mentioned being suspicious of me, Fura, Lopen, Experience, Xino, and Burnt in varying degrees. Interestingly, all of these were just based off of gut and one or two quotes. In T4M1, Elandera continued to express suspicion of Xino, and mentioned not liking the vote on Zillah. In T4M2, Elandera switched on Xino and expressed suspicion of Fura for being against the Walin lynch and for Walin reading them as village. She ended up voting twice for Devotary, which I find odd, as I don't believe she had previously expressed any suspicion of her. She decided to vote for Devotary based on the fact that she trusted Hael's judgment, which doesn't look great in retrospect. Elandera's latest vote was on Fura, which makes sense since both elims had read Fura as village. Slight elim read, but I like the fact that she's been making more reads lately.
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I'll ask the GMs about that. Okay, I'm just going to cover the not-insane, alive, and non-expelled players, since they're the ones most relevant to the game right now: Araris Valerian: I trust him since I scanned him and he didn't lie last turn. He had said, "Haelbarde I’m reading you (slightly) more as village now." which I think would have been read as a lie if he was a Skindancer. He also said that he didn't agree with any of Karnages suspicions other than Rover. This means that if Araris is elim, Rover must be an elim as well, and Burnt, Fura, and I are all confirmed village. Village read. Burnt Spaghetti: I trust her as well since I scanned her and she wasn't lying last turn. She made a list of reads, and I think that would have tripped Linguistic Analysis if she was a Skindancer. Devotary's point about her 100% suspicion post is interesting, and I'm still waiting for the GMs to get back to me about that. Village read. Devotary of Spontaneity: Looking back, Devotary hasn't said that much. They voted on Bard early but only because he was "a better target than Lopen". They also seemed suspicious of CadCom and Elandera. Neutral read. More reads to come. I'm splitting this up so I get a greater tuition reduction.
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Among the crowd of waiting Shades, the remnants of the crew made their choice. Obscured by the darkness, Patience, saved from death once, finally died. Kidpen was lynched. They were a Loyal Crewmember! CadCom was killed. He was a Loyal Crewmember! Vote Count: Kidpen (5): DrakeMarshall, Elbereth, Megasif, Sart, The_God_King DrakeMarshall (2): Kidpen, Silberfarben GM Notes: -The cycle will end on May 17th at 13:00 EST. -Inactivity warnings for: @Amanuensis, @The_Archivist, @Zillah. -If there are any inaccuracies with the vote or inactivity count, please let me know. Player List: xinoehp512 - Hades Loyal Crewmember Karnage - Shroud Loyal Crewmember StrikerEZ - Reverie Loyal Crewmember Elkanah - Cain Loyal Crewmember with a Medical Kit The_God_King - Mavet Elandera - Thankful Loyal Crewmember with a Knife Lord_Silberfarben - Silber BrightnessRadiant - Calypso Loyal Crewmember Kynedath - Maledict Loyal Crewmember Kidpen - Aradia Loyal Crewmember A Joe in the Bush - Joseph Loyal Crewmember Elbereth - Crepuscula The_Archivist - Archer Mist - Rona Loyal Crewmember Sart - Sam Trudite Zillah - TBD CadCom - Patience Loyal Crewmember DrakeMarshall - Verity Amanuensis - Nok the Bard Arraenae - Resourceful Smythe Mutineer Megasif - Mega Furamirionind - TBD Loyal Crewmember with Silver Powder
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The cycle is over!
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So, time for a full infodump, since the Skindancers will be targeting me anyway. I am the Master Linguist. The first two times I was elevated in Linguistics, I gained the anonymous message ability and the passive PM spying ability. I saw no reason to use the anonymous message ability, so I never used it. Last turn, I was elevated again and gained the lie detection ability. I used the lie detection ability on Araris, Hael, and Burnt, as they each posted a large number of reads. Hael was the only person who lied. To clarify on the last minute votes: at 6:59, literally one minute before the day ended, Experience suddenly voted on me. They gave no explanation for why they had voted on me, other than the fact that they had "a bad gut feeling" but that they didn't have time to look at any posts to confirm. I was extremely confused and annoyed, so I tried to do a last minute vote switch onto them. I looked back through their posts, and the last time before then that they had mentioned me in a post was in Term 2 Month 2, where they had been confused by StrikerEZ's post and then immediately retracted in the same post. The only other mention of me was quoting me asking them to switch from Araris to spread out the votes further, and them complying. So, in summary: Experience voted on me at the last minute so I didn't even get the chance to defend myself, gave no reasons other than a "bad gut", hadn't even mentioned me since Term 2 Month 2, and had never mentioned being suspicious of me for something I'd actually said. I'll try to get a reads list up soon. Also, I noticed a little something hidden in white text at the end of your post. What's up with that? White text is bolded and turned black.
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@BrightnessRadiant game related discussion is difficult to quantify. In my opinion, it’s better to go with a definite thing, both for GM sanity and so players can keep track. I’ve seen someone (DrakeMarshall in QF30 I believe) used a vote based inactivity filter. As Elandera said, a word count filter could work. As my rule in LG64, I did a PM based inactivity filter, but PMs were also tied with action targets and stuff. If your game has any special mechanics, you could also make players use those mechanics as an inactivity filter (the KKC games are an example of this).
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Shouldn’t this go in Art of Game Creation? I’ll put my response to this in there. -
Never mind Kynedath. Experience Experience. Not sure if the GMs will count this though. Jumping on me at literally the last minute is very suspicious in my opinion.
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Seriously?
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Fura, why are you jumping on new people at five minutes to end of day?
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I think that was more about our opinions on voting distributions than actual suspicion of me.
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Hmm, not sure who to vote on but I need the tuition reduction. Kynedath I guess?
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The spec doc is just a Google doc where people who aren't playing can talk about the game. I'll send you the spec doc link for QF44. I can see that Elbereth is currently viewing the thread, so I think she'll also send you the link for LG65. If you were referring to not knowing how to ping, pinging is just writing @ and then someone's name. It should give them a notification. Ex: @Matrim's_Dice.
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Since the first time they had killed someone, the crew hadn't had any luck finding the mutineers. This time was no different. In the night, two people were attacked. One was saved, but the other died. Karnage was lynched. They were a Loyal Crewmember! CadCom was attacked, but survived! A Joe in the Bush was killed. He was a Loyal Crewmember! Vote Count: Karnage (7): CadCom, DrakeMarshall, Joe, Kidpen, Silberfarben, The_God_King, Zillah DrakeMarshall (4): Amanuensis, Karnage, Sart, The_Archivist GM Notes: -Kills are not differentiated. -The cycle will end on May 16th at 13:00 EST. -Inactivity warnings for: @Elbereth, @Megasif. -If there are any inaccuracies with the vote or inactivity count, please let me know. Player List: xinoehp512 - Hades Loyal Crewmember Karnage - Shroud Loyal Crewmember StrikerEZ - Reverie Loyal Crewmember Elkanah - Cain Loyal Crewmember with a Medical Kit The_God_King - Mavet Elandera - Thankful Loyal Crewmember with a Knife Lord_Silberfarben - Silber BrightnessRadiant - Calypso Loyal Crewmember Kynedath - Maledict Loyal Crewmember Kidpen - Aradia A Joe in the Bush - Joseph Loyal Crewmember Elbereth - Crepuscula The_Archivist - Archer Mist - Rona Loyal Crewmember Sart - Sam Trudite Zillah - TBD CadCom - Patience DrakeMarshall - Verity Amanuensis - Nok the Bard Arraenae - Resourceful Smythe Mutineer Megasif - Mega Furamirionind - TBD Loyal Crewmember with Silver Powder
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The cycle is over!
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Rules depend on the game, but they typically follow traditional mafia rules, with the village vs the elims. There are also usually roles that are assigned to players. Long game 1 explains a lot of the rules and is a good example of a fairly typical game. There are three types of games: long games, mid-ranges, and quick fixes. Long game signups start when the previous long game is finished. Quick fix sign ups start when the previous mid-range finishes, and vice-versa. Characters are optional, and are mainly just if you want to RP or for the GM to use in write-ups. They're pretty much entirely up to your discretion. On another note, there are two games currently running: LG65 and QF44. If you're interested in spectating either game, just ping the GM (Elbereth or little wilson for LG65 and me for QF44) and they'll send you a link to the spec doc. Spec docs are a lot of fun, and give you a chance to see what's going on in the game. Let me know if either of you have any more questions! New players are always appreciated.
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I don't see any such thing in the rules or clarifications. BTW @xinoehp512, any more lie detection results you'd care to share with the thread?
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Kills come before the Horns, and I believe the GMs said that Walin's stuff was done by a NPC. EDIT: @Rathmaskal here's the specific GM clarification:
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It doesn't necessarily mean that either. It's just saying that people died and they have items. If you people keep on trying to get game info from tags I'm just going to start putting blatantly untrue things in the tags.
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Rath was on at the time, and responded. However, they continued to say nothing at all, other than mildly protesting about me complaining about them. Also, I didn't expect them to be expelled, and I don't believe the odds of them being expelled were that high. So far this turn, they've said that the newly expelled students are more likely to be village, which doesn't make very much sense in my opinion? I guess they might be saying that if they were an elim there'd be more of a push to get votes off of them? Any chance of some explanations for these suspicions?
