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As for the language discussion, I would say that there are languages far harder to learn than Spanish. I took some Spanish in school, and the only hard part about it is remembering how things are gendered. I couldn't talk with anyone, but I can read words off a page, just not understand it. English is frankly more difficult. I have been edging into Japanese lately so I can watch raw anime, and that is a true nightmare. The spoken language isn't bad at all, but the writing is, well, ridiculous. They have a phonetic set of characters, Hirogana. They have their standard character set, Kanji. And then they have a bunch of special characters for foreign words, Katakana. Each individual kanji character can have anywhere from 1 to 10+ meanings, and you have to context clue into which one is right. They sometimes have a character, and then clarify which meaning to read with Hirogana. It's really nasty. On the other hand, you only need to know a couple thousand characters, so it is doable. @Silverblade5, that' awesome. I wish I had more say in what music I played during school. I saw Def Leppard a couple years ago, and that was pretty great. It was a fairly big concert tho, so no chance of talking after. They play really well though. It was almost album quality across the board.

Figs are pretty tasty, yes. @Tristan I can't draw that well given 3 hours, so kudos. Easily the best piece in the thread. The others were good, but this included more detail, which is nice and harder to do. @Darkness Ascendant, I feel like you would be really good at drawing comics/caricatures. Your stuff was good, but tended to exaggerate certain aspects a bit. I liked it in the end, which is all that actually matters. Well, that and you enjoying creating it. I'm gonna get in on this action myself.

Ahhh, but @TwiLyghtSansSparkles, all of those other Disney example you gave didn't have people that were already dead. Snow white was just in a coma, and all the others were either gravely injured, or not injured at all. That's a big difference from being frozen solid. Petrifaction I can see being cured. That is well established, but being frozen is, well, less so. And as for @ShadowLord_Lith, the sword should still have exerted a pretty good impulse on her arm... If I whack you with a cracked sword and it breaks on your spine, you still won't be feeling good. I maintain that while that scene had solid emotional impact, it totally threw me out of suspension of disbelief. I can't see it as anything other than a plot contrivance. It was lazy writing to get the kind of ending they wanted. I mean... Anna's arm wasn't even bruised afterwards. Come on! You've got to be kidding me! It's not a matter of whether the sword should have broken, it's that her arm should have had something happen to it too. I was fine with the sword break, and your explanation for it is sound. The sword more exploded than shattered, honestly, and I'm not sure how I feel about that. On the other hand, jumping in front of a bullet/sword/arrow is an established trope, and if you don't actually injure the character, then what was the point? She could have jumped in front of him, only to have him pull up short in surprise and I would have been fine with it. Think about it in Cosmere terms, all the other instances you mention didn't have characters already dead. The closest they came was comatose or unconscious due to blood loss. That is still totally healable. Being Transformed into ice is death (or smoke, or quartz, or fire >.> looking at you, muggers). Plain and simple. Their connection to life was cut right then and there. Anna's soul should have popped out of her body and been like, 'well that sucks... I was about to thaw myself.' She didn't have a brain any more, just a bunch of ice that may have been in an interesting structure. She couldn't think about how much she loved her sister any more. She was dead, for Pete's sake! I also don't think that citing it being a Disney movie is a good excuse. Disney has already killed a lot of stormtroopers, after all. They don't get to revive because they love themselves/their sister. I wish Disney would grow a pair and actually kill characters that clearly should be dead. Children's stories used to do that all the time, but we decided kids are a bunch of pansies for some reason, so now seeing real world problems like death might 'damage' them... ugh whatever. That argument is a bit too meta to be solid evidence, or well, parts of it. Honestly, Disney has made good movies. As a movie, Frozen was decent. As a story, it was decent, but nothing to write home about, other than the twist ending (only by Disney standards). As for characters, they were generally very solid characters (see what I did there :P). They just didn't mix well. Anna running around with Mr. Adoptive Troll was, well cringey. I was literally clenching my gut and making stupid faces almost every time they talked to each other. They were just so... on the nose, cheesy, and/or predictable every single time. Also, what on earth was Elsa going to eat in that ice castle?... "I'm gonna live here now!" "Okay, what'll you eat?" "Umm... I'll be home for dinner." "Suuuurrreee." Yeah... the cold never bothered her, but her stomach definitely will. Unless she finds the abominable snowman to give her snowcones (what? They're lemon!). Spinning around in circles shooting ice magic everywhere takes calories, you know. Even if she used her magic to create a living snowsuit that moved her body at her will, her brain would still need energy. She buried all the arable land in ice, which is why everyone was looking for her. Food was not going to be easy to come by on top of a mountain. Also, my take on Elsa's mental state was somewhat different. I saw it as her having something about herself she wanted to hide, and once it was found out, she decided that letting it all out was fine now. She may have depression/anxiety due to having to conceal her true nature, but that wasn't the main issue to me. I've been in that boat, and once your secret is out, you just say, 'well, screw it, may as well have fun with this.' And, as a semi-serious joke, did anyone else expect Anna to say, "you look different," when she saw Elsa in the ice palace, only to have her respond, "I feel different." That would have been an incredible reference. @Claincy what edition? I've only ever played AD&D. Which I completely and utterly broke, by the way. (I built a character that natively had -9 AC and could consistently do ~195 damage/round assuming he hits every attack, and could do ~650/round if he used lvls/day powers. This in first edition, where everyone is swinging swords for 3d6+12 at best and the highest hp things in the game have at best 350 hp. Just at the cost of being unable to use lots of magic. I was at the point where I could fight minor gods toe to toe and laughed at pairs of ancient dragons. Kensai/monk is op, basically.) In other news, what other tabletop RPGs do you like? I like Star Wars: Edge of the Empire. It's less rule driven and much faster paced, so it keeps your attention better. I really need to get a new gaming group going, or actually bother driving out to the one at my uni...

@TwiLyghtSansSparkles that's a decent summary of the movies. I'm in the same (well, similar) boat as you, so I can see where you are coming from. I just don't have to agree with your conclusion. My take on it was that Tangled did practically everything right, but Frozen rubbed me the wrong way. As other people stated, they didn't really take risks in either movie, but that isn't necessarily a bad thing. Frozen just didn't feel consistent to me. The How it Should Have Ended for it is, well, accurate. To paraphrase it, 'love her and help her grow' 'so, you're saying we should lock her up and make her afraid of herself' 'what? No! You are terrible parents.' Tangled was funnier, had better characters overall, and, while aspects of it were deliberately ridiculous, they worked for the show. It mixed together dark themes with a bright color palate and bright people to make the show warm anyway. The only issue I had with the show was all the criminals showing up to save Flynn. Everything else made sense in universe. Frozen, on the other hand, had a generally bland coloring, characters that felt like they were trying too hard to not quite fit stereotypes, and a story that was not believable given the characters. The whole time Anna was traveling with what's his face, Karloff I guess (I have a cold, so remembering is hard), I felt like their dialogue and actions were contrived. It didn't click at all for me. Another major issue I have with Frozen is that Anna thawed out. She should have stayed as a block of ice, or if she was reconstituted, she should have been dead. That was kind of the central plot element for a good portion of the movie, and it was supposed to dangerous, yet even after the curse reached its conclusion she was able to be saved anyway. Also, the sword broke on her frozen body without so much as scratching her... I'm not gonna buy that one either. Especially considering that it was her arm he hit, if I remember correctly. Now, you could say it was magic ice, and impervious to the sword, but... other ice Elsa created got chopped up just fine, take the behemoth for an example. Tangled didn't kill Flynn, it just mortally wounded him, and then healed him after he went unconscious. Now, having Elsa be the person who revived Anna was a good choice, but they should have had her start turning to ice and Elsa save her before she was entirely gone. Objectively, Tangled was better. I try to dissociate my emotions from judgements like this. If anything, my emotions should weigh towards Frozen because the first time I saw it was on a date, but I walked out of the theater just thinking 'well I guess that was decent.' Basically, I'm saying it was over-hyped in the extreme. There are far better movies out there, like Lion King or Your Name. Edit: Also, what on Earth are they going to do for a sequel? I can't see any plot that would be any good short of some disease caused by Elsa's powers that she can't fix, which would be boring and predictable. Or her getting framed again, which would be plot suicide. This is clearly just money-grabbing, not something the show needs or can even use to further its universe.

"I like going to the park and watching the children run around because they don't know I'm using blanks." - Emo Philips

You just have to Forge yourself close enough to have the same Identity, not be completely the same, though I see where you are coming from. The stamp doesn't need to take for long, just long enough to say 'your Breath to mine,' so that helps.

I think it's not just that Brandon is Mormon, it's that he is Mormon, and lives in Utah. That's where we are most heavily concentrated, for historical reasons. So it isn't just that he is Mormon, it's that he is local, which means he gets more word of mouth publicity between Mormon people.

Not to rain on your parade, but that is something I would put in the 'I need hugs' thread... Frozen is the second most over-hyped thing of all time. Second only to Titanic, of course. The characters felt inconsistent to me, and the plot was frankly boring at best, cringe-worthy at worst. Now, that's my opinion, and it only takes a glance at your name and profile pic to see yours is completely different. I just don't get it... The soundtrack was decent, but not worthy of the explosion of plays and covers it got. Not by a faint breeze or a stormwind. Tangled was just... better. In every respect. The only thing Frozen did right was having her be un-frozen by her sister, rather than one of the guys. *sigh* I guess I'm just salty that people hype up mediocre stuff like Frozen and blow off gorgeous masterpieces like Your Name. After the first five minutes, you know Your Name is a cut above the rest, and they haven't even had any dialogue. It's just that good looking. For actual good news, I found a new job, though I don't know for sure if they'll take me or not (I would say it's practically guaranteed, but real life likes to screw with expectations). Assuming I do well, I'll be making more, and I get to completely set my hours. And I get to work from home. And since I have done similar work before, I could get a promotion relatively quickly. I never have to leave my chair again bwahaha-- oh yeah... food... never mind

If Ashravan became an Awakener, could Gaotona use the Emperor's stamp to Forge himself enough to withdraw Breaths from things Ashravan has awakened? If so, could Vasher stamp himself to be Nightblood and withdraw the Breath from Nightblood?

I guess that was a poor wording. I meant the full Investiture that is a Blade. What Jon is saying is that it might be that the same amount of Investiture is packed into different sized Blades. I'm saying it is more likely that it takes a flat level of Investiture to manifest some amount of Blade, so the larger you want the Blade to be, the amount of Investiture required scales linearly, and eventually hits a point where the spren can't push any more into the PR.

That's a good explanation, @BlackYeti. I would add that a Shardblades is extremely Investiture dense already, so decreasing the mass/volume and still keeping the full Investiture doesn't seem at all likely. I admit I haven't seen it confirmed as fact, but I don't see how it could be any other way. Edit: got ninja'd, so now I need to reply to that. We do know you could use a Blade as a Hemalurgic spike, the Investiture just won't stick to the Blade because it's full, which is the crux of my argument against the OP's theory. As for comparing atium and Blades, I don't see that it makes a difference. Would comparing it to ettmetal (confirmed Harmonium, thanks @Pagerunner) make you happier with the explanation?

Basically what Spool said, with the caveat that people who Ascend (and other ways, but this is the most obvious) become Cognitive Shadows, so there are ways to extend it to the point where you no longer feel the pull of the Beyond. But that is something different from just having different kinds of Connections.

That's not even close to the most recent topic on Helaran. There have been at least two, maybe three. This is the most recent topic: (warning, it's in cosmere theories, so spoiler potential is present)

That is perhaps the funniest thing I've seen in a week! Kudos to your wife for having such good intuition. Your post hasn't even been up for an hour an it's got 7 upvotes already XD

Okay cool. So the Heralds could hop to Ashyn. On another note, what is the mechanic of them going to Braize? I always assumed that they went straight to damnation. When they get killed, they just end up there. But how do they get there? My guess is that they get teleported (Elsecalled?), but I don't have any concrete evidence besides the spren not seeming to know about it. And what about when they don't die? I always assumed they just kinda gave up their body and went to Braize. But after thinking about it, I realized that I have absolutely no basis for that assumption... What wild guesses are out there about this?

Well... as for me I'm going to have an extremely busy next couple days... I got some nice solid depression over the course of the semester, and ended up ignoring my online class and focusing on my lecture based classes... and forgot that I had the online class. It's just like that nightmare people tell me they have, where they realize the day of that they have a final they need to take for a class they never attended. Long story short, I now have the majority of the semester's homework to do in two days, in addition to the fact that this is finals week. Luckily I'm not worried about any of my finals except the one for this online class... but still! It's my own fault, but I'm still freaking out more than a little bit. It's not helped by the fact that I keep getting distracted here and there, which is the main reason I am in this mess in the first place. I think I'll manage, but I'm not going to get a lot of sleep. Currently working on week 6 of... 13ish? Please yell at me to get working if you see me around the Shard for the next couple days

Well, @maxal, we have certainly entertained ourselves quite well with this. Do those deer have appointments or are they walk-ins? Is it a seal of approval? Are these jokes as bad as I hope they are? On a more serious note, wow have we derailed this thread! XD

One grizzly, three moose, and ten beavers per broam. Those are Canadian dollars, right? At a serious guess though, I would say that a broam is at least $1000, if not 2 or 3.

Elsecallers take the cake. Who needs to fly when you can just get where you are going instantly! Journey before destination? Pfft! Beyond that, Elsecallers can teleport and soulcast stuff from the CR, so I can get up to all sorts of shenanigans with that. It's like Tel'aran'rhiod (did I spell that right?...) on roids. Plus, soulcasting = get rich quick. "Oh, you want some super enriched uranium? Feed me! Gold? No problem!"

We know the Heralds are Cognitive Shadows. Kelsier couldn't leave the Scadrial Shadesmar because he was bound to it. Spren can't easily leave Roshar for the same reason. So how can the Heralds leave Roshar and go to Braize after every desolation? Are they just bound to Greater Roshar (the system) instead of the planet? Does that mean they could head over to Ashyn if they wished? Do the people on Ashyn know about/worship the Heralds? This line of questioning has really got me thinking, but I don't know of any WoB about this specifically. Anyone else have thoughts or information on the matter? This is going to bother me for the next couple days at least.

While this is a somewhat valid point, there is something you didn't quite reach here. The power the Herald/Radiant is getting and using is irrelevant to how powerful their Blade is. A Radiant swimming in spheres (physical, not Shadesmar) is extremely powerful, but that doesn't mean their spren is any different. The thing that matters here is that the Honorblades give access to Surges and other abilities we aren't fully aware of. And while I could see an argument that the spren are more powerful due to their sapience, I would argue that the Herald is effectively the mind of the Honorblade, so the Honorblade doesn't need a mind of its own. As the ultimate illustration of my point about power != flashiness, we have Nightblood. Its powers aren't that dramatic compared to AonDor or Surgebinding, but they require huge amounts of Investiture to fuel. On the other hand, Nightblood itself is also extremely Invested. The two points of Investiture, the item itself and the fuel, aren't necessarily correlated.

*puts on @Mestiv hat* BANNED!!!1! Abuse of powers newly acquired is acceptable for a few minutes. Should have gone for it.

Just realized I'm a Silent Gatherer at the moment, so if any of you need a 'hug,' I'm here and listening intently. Rattle off your insecurities. (Now I'm feeling far too clever for my own good.)

So is nobody going to point out that this was a necro from 2015? Welcome to the Shard and all that @ProfChesterTQ , but... we normally yell at this a lot sooner XD Just avoid the spikes cookies.

Ten emerald broams per week of captivity. Pricey, I know. It may be worth it if the books are good.