Djarskublar

So the deal is that Breath isn't eternal. That 'hold things' rope would eventually power down. After being killed, the Breath would remain in the rope. It would just be inaccessible to anyone without the same Identity as the original person. I am not certain about the rope destruction. I believe there is a WoB that all the people with their Breath still in them just have their Breath become part of the dirt they decompose into. So it is theoretically possible to mine Breaths. Somehow... I imagine it is possible to recall Breath from anything, you just have to have the same identity as the thing you are recalling from, so turning Nightblood back into something normal is essentially impossible.

The pump analogy goes both ways. Fluid (Investiture) can still flow through a replacement pump. Kal revived Syl even though he wasn't exactly the same person he had been before he broke the bond. He was wounded in body, mind, and soul. There has to be some leeway for who can revive spren. It may go so far as to require similar physical traits, but a separate person must be able to revive spren because you are certainly not the same person after breaking your Oaths. You are close enough to the original person to create new bonds with your spren. That is how I have seen it for some time now.

Very well. I stand corrected about the types of spren that can bond Bondsmiths. My point that the sentence implies that more than three Bondsmiths is possible still stands. Perhaps the three spren that can bond Bondsmiths can fit multiple bonds onto their spiritweb. It still says sedition, rather than mentioning impossibility.

But as for the Bondsmiths, they had members only three, which number was not uncommon for them; nor did they seek to increase this by great bounds, for during the times of Madasa, only one of their order was in continual accompaniment of Urithiru and its thrones. Their spren was understood to be specific, and to persuade them to grow to the magnitude of the other orders was seen as seditious. —Words of Radiance, chapter 16, page 14 This is the entire subject of this thread-- Bondsmiths. This quote has always bothered me, since other people seem to understand it so differently. I think it has some ramifications for some speculation I've seen that simply hasn't been discussed. First, a point about the grammar. I will assume that the grammar in this quote to be correct, and that this means we can draw conclusions based off it. This lends a great deal of support in my mind to the theory that Bondsmiths only bond the Stormfather. Their spren was understood to be specific Was, not were. This is the singular form. A singular spren. To stave off counter argument ahead of time, I would say the spren for Windrunners were (and are) specific. They bond Honorspren. Were here for plural form. Just a thought here. Now to the meat of why I made this post, the last sentence also says that to grow the membership to the magnitude of the other orders was seditious. I have some general ideas as to why it may have been seditious, but that is irrelevant. The important thing here is that it implies that it is possible. There could be more than three Bondsmiths, but it was seen as seditious to suggest that there should be more than three bonded. That is huge for the discussion of what the deal is with Bondsmiths. This was just something I noticed, and said to myself, hey wait a minute... So, all you Bondsmith fanatics out there, what do you think?

Emotional Allomancy to make people actually like my awful puns, but then when they think about it later, they are super embarrassed that they though it was so funny. Buy a morgue to get access to cadavers, then make people's family revisit them from the grave in as freaky a way as I can come up with. Lifeless ftw! Use lifesense to become the unsurprisable person. Also nice for infiltrations. Steel Allomancy to fake suicide... repeatedly. Use Lightweaving to make it appear more realistic. Some sort of Lightweaving fabrial to troll people with a 'bump in the night'... every night. Forgery as a used car salesman. Nuff sed. Iron and steel allomancy to remove fasteners on people's clothes and at the least embarass them, and potentially get them charged with public indecency. Emotional Allomancy to make students despair during exams. Make type IV bioentities that are totally useless, except to talk to people. Drive people insane and/or ruin their reputation by getting them to have voices in their head. Lightweaving to make it appear that a deer jumped in front of cars, but don't actually cause any harm. Soulcasting to easily perform otherwise impossible magic tricks. Iron/steel to perform awesome feats with ball games. Incredible throw distance and precision as a quarterback or receiver, 100% shotrate in basketball, and unhittable pitches in baseball. Curling would be a complete joke as an Allomancer. Play with your opponent's sword when fencing. Push arrows in archery contests. The list here could be extremely long. Feruchemy and surgebinding to play with an airless, frictionless room. Use Soulcasting to assume a spherical cow. Elsecalling to make Schrödinger's cat freaking disappear on experimenters. Soulcasting to mess with chemistry experiments. That's what I came up with in just a few minutes... I guess I'm pretty scary sometimes.

I agree that Stormlight would be better as an RTS. We need a few more books for culture to make other nations besides the Alethi though.

Tossing Wit in doesn't make it punny... Also, where's the bane? Granted! The Nightwatcher passes you a crate of flamingos, and tells you there is nothing that can be done to make them more spectacular. (I really like flamingos.) The related bane is that you can no longer see any shade of red and appreciate them. I wish someone gave another punny thing about those words to @ShadowLord_Lith. He deserves better, sorry Drake.

Before anything else, assume there is no Ruin in this scenario. We don't need the potential corruption. Assume we have some average Scadrialian. They worldhop to Nalthis and aquire the fifth Heightening for agelessness. They come back to Scadrial, and for whatever reason, Preservation's Vessel starts funneling them beads of Lerasium as fast as possible. They need agelessness so we can ignore any time constraints. Brandon has said that if you burned enough Lerasium to become a savant, that is what Ascention basically is. But! What if the current Vessel is still alive? Once this random person has burned enough Lerasium to become a savant, and is supposed to Ascend, what happens? Do we get something of a Shardic cagefight where the two mentally compete for control of the Shard? Does the person just die because they don't get the mental expansion of Ascention? Seriously, this is something we should ask him, but I want to see other's thoughts before posting it to the questions thread.

That's totally fine. It is a work intensive project, and moving takes priority. Another point I failed to mention originally: it could be used to look for more than just Heralds. We could look for proto-Radiants, Ghostbloods, Worldhoppers, Sons of Honor, Diagrammists, WalDo, etc. We could eventually look at every character and conclude on their likelihood of being a member of various groups. That girl that Shallan impersonated is likely a Son of Honor, since Amaram was apparently giving her preferential treatment. She could just be a squeeze though. Things like that.

Granted. Have some wolfsbane. For your bane, you are now a werewolf. I wish to be Fullborn (without access to use of the powers restricted).

I feel like our hunt for Heralds has been... lacking so far. We just kinda pick out a couple characters who seem interesting and debate them. I feel that to truly live up to Brandon's expectations of overanalyzing things, we need to make a catalog of every appearance of every character we can't definitively rule out as a Herald, like, say, Kaladin or Dalinar. I am talking sentence level analysis. For example, maybe the prostitute that Adolin helps out is one, or maybe the girl Shallan impersonated to get into Amaram's camp (this is a thought I've had in the past). I wouldn't mind managing this project or just being a contributor. Would we want to set up a Google doc for it? How would we organize it? Character, then list appearances by page? Is this even a thing we should bother doing? If 20 or so people put in an hour, I bet we could knock out half of WoK. I have done similar cataloguing in the past, so that estimate should be good.

I don't see why you shouldn't be able to store Light. Memories are lost over time too, and those store just fine in a Coppermind.

It might have to do with how directly she is Soulcasting. If she is pushing the Light straight from the gems, as she appears to do with fair regularity in WoK, then it may apply. Like when she Soulcasts the mugger at range. She seemed to push the Light from the gem into the guy. Once she breathes it in, then she can do whatever she wills with it.

Yeah basically. I was specifically referencing Shannara there. Apparently he didn't like that their goals were changing through the book. Specifically, he didn't like that they were trying to depose Iadon (if that's his name... been a while) and support him in the same book for mostly the same reason.

My dad didn't like Elantris. He said he didn't like it because the plot didn't follow a central story along the standard 'boy gets sword that makes him angry and pokes the final boss with it not knowing what it would actually do' boring crap... Yeah, the stuff they are doing changes, but that's the beauty of it. Grrr

A bit necro, but I don't mind it since this is an interesting thread, and I have something to contribute. What if all of these things people have pointed out aren't about the past, but the future. We know the ending to the (back?) 5 is hidden in the first two books. This contemplation of the ending of an era could be it. The era of endings: rip people, Oathpact, maybe a Shard or two, and the restriction on Surgebinding. Ending of an era: Odium may be freed after all this. Who knows but Brandon. Lots of stuff could change. It is the end of an era, obviously. I like this idea.

It specifically reads as 'heavy as a boulder, then a building, then heavier.' So yeah, a building. Also, emphasis not added. It is stated as such when they are in the speedbubble trying to get away from the butler's explosion. I guess this just reinforces how freakishly OP Fullborn are. This power just granted moderate aerial ability to them when there's no metal around. They can compound mass. Is that a fat joke? But actually, the more massive you are, the more effective of an iron feruchemist you are. This jumping effect is predicated on ratios, so if your initial mass is higher, you can store lower and still be relatively unaffected by wind buffeting you.

The basic idea is that your initial velocity times your mass is your momentum, so if you change your mass via iron feruchemy, then your velocity changes a proportional amount. m1v1=m2v2 I imagine this would look a lot like Force leaps in Star Wars. They would be much more powerful, though. If Wax can make himself as heavy as a building and Sazed made himself light as a feather, then that is a huuuge multiplier. Call it something like a factor of 50000:1... That is some insane acceleration.

I guess I'm late to the party, but I place two upvotes on the restaurant. I don't think we know anything about the area it will show up in from past works, though that's a blind guess.

Speaking of, when Wax escapes the explosion in AoL, he was heavier than a building. Apparently my numbers for tapping were extremely conservative.

In Soviet Roshar, the Light of gems sucks in YOU!

Another thing it might do is affect how you tap other metals. It could make It so your taps are effectively longer, allowing for higher taps. The physics of Feruchemical steel are annoyingly poorly explained, even in WoB. In the end, there may not be a way to get Feruchemical steel to help with the jump.

Upvote just for citation needed! I would say that Middle Earth isn't as detail intense as Stormlight from a worldbuilding perspective. Then again, I highly disliked LotR... It was just too convenient too often. The characters barely struggle themselves, they just have good ol' Gandalf do all the heavy lifting for them. Not knowing anything about the wider cosmology of it when I read it, it just felt... contrived and stupid. I know more now, but it hasn't changed my opinion. That is a total tangent, and I would rather any discussion on it be in PM form.

I agree with the time theory. I just think it would still work as a multiplier through the whole flight. If it doesn't, you could instead just do a large tap on it and use it while jumping to massively accelerate your jump. Either way is cool. The massive tap would provide a better multiplier, though.

If you use it through the whole jump, it would act as a straight multiplier. It would be useful to add a small multiplier like, say, four. You couldn't go much higher than that without compounding because the tap would have to be maintained for a long time until you hit the peak of your jump. Hmmm. I thought it was 20 miles, so I converted. I try to use metric for these things, but I live in the US. I just hope I got all my units right. I think I did. Metric is just better. I thought of another cool thing you could do. Jump laterally for some sweet long jumps. Use it to jump chasms or use it similarly to a burst of superspeed. The amount of practice this would take to get accurate with your jumps would be tough. I can see many broken bones occurring before you get it down. Lucky they are a full Feruchemist and can just tap gold!