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  1. You are offend?! Here, take my boots. Plus, I had the Theoryland link handy at the time so it was slightly faster to use it. Not necessarily, Brandon says that Sazed didn't do anything with the bodies but he doesn't rule out someone else doing something with them. Say, Spook. Kelsier started working on him immediately after the Catacendre so Ati's body at least might have remained in a useable state by the time the two of them figured out whatever trick Kelsier used to reconnect to the Physical.
  2. Galladon is an Elantrian and effectively immortal and Brandon has stated that Demoux uses the same method that most of the Seventeenth Shard uses (we don't know what it is) which doesn't stop the aging process but slows it considerably. We know that all the books through The Alloy of Law are published in in-universe chronological order, after which it breaks down. Mistborn Era 2 takes place during the planned timeskip between the first and second half of Stormlight Archive, meaning that it happens some time after The Way of Kings. Era 2 itself happens about three hundred years after the end of Era 1, which means that Demoux has been around for several centuries by the time he appears as 'Thinker'. We also know that Baon (the third worldhopper in the Purelake trio, the one Ishikk calls Blunt) is from the chronologically earliest story to date, White Sand, making him the oldest of the three in relative terms. We don't know exactly how much time passes between the events of White Sand and Elantris, or Elantris and Mistborn but Brandon has mentioned that we've seen the nearer of a thousand years worth of events we could place on a timeline (not counting 'certain inciting events' that go as far back as ~10,000 years) which gives us a rough idea how far back White Sand and Elantris can take place, if you put them at one end of the timeline and Sixth of the Dusk at the other. Brandon has confirmed that the Prelude at the start of Way of Kings (and consequently, some of Dalinar's visions that predate it) happen before anything else we've seen so far. Presumably the former falls under the 'certain inciting events' caveat from the WoB I mentioned.
  3. Yeah, Sazed's physical body has sublimated but would reform if he gave up the power or if he was killed. We see the latter happen with Leras and Ati and the former has been revealed by Brandon outside the books. One thing of potential interest is that Brandon told us that the bodies of the former Vessels might have been handy to have around. We don't know why this is so but apparently Sazed didn't do anything with them... but who's to say that Kelsier didn't? Maybe instead of one of the theories that he returned via a kandra or a mistwraith eating his original bones (they're still around) he's found a way to staple himself to Leras or Ati's body?
  4. Weltall

    Nightblood

    Doubtful. Even if you grant that Susebron could make such a weapon, you still have the question of what you'd actually hit with Nightblood in the Physical and how much of the Shard you're really damaging that way. Even Perpendicularities which can contain a lot of Investiture may be less-so than Nightblood depending, and definitely do not represent anything close to the totality of a Shard's power in any event. There's also the question of whether you could cram much more Breath into a sword-sized vessel than Nightblood already has; Brandon was asked whether you could turn a Shardblade/Nightblood into a hemalurgic spike and he replied that in theory you could but at the same time, those are so heavily Invested already that they can be argued as being 'full' and thus can't be Invested further.
  5. Yeah, there is a planned sequel for Warbreaker (tentatively named Nightblood) which has been on the radar for quite some time. Brandon stated in the last State of the Sanderson that the plan has been and remains that he'll work on it and the planned Elantris sequels once Mistborn Era 2 is finished. He hasn't ruled out writing short stories set on Nalthis but so far, he hasn't been able to get any to work.
  6. We know Bavadin likes creating personas and has entire pantheons where every deity is actually her, so it's far from impossible that she started Trelagism. There's also a 'Trell' who appears in White Sand which is more than a little suspicious. That said, I suspect that if Bavadin created the religion, it was via a human intermediary for the purpose of having something she could later co-opt if needed, rather than doing so directly via a persona. One bit of potential evidence for this is that Brandon said that at the time of Sazed's Ascension, the only two Shards on Scadrial were Preservation and Ruin. You could wiggle around that with the argument that a Splinter of Autonomy is not technically a Shard but Brandon has also mentioned that we haven't seen Splinters on Scadrial during Era 1. It's also possible the Trell thing could be a hilarious coincidence Brandon dangled in front of our noses for a laugh and Trelagism just happened to best suit Bavadin's needs when she was looking for a local religion to co-opt, but that wouldn't be as fun. And yes, I'm firmly in the camp of 'Trell is Autonomy' too. For the TLDR answer: At this point I don't believe it's possible to ever read too much into things, where Autonomy's possible actions are concerned. xD
  7. Bearing in mind that Brandon was also asked this about Dalinar's oath at the end of WoR and replied that he only swore one Ideal there in two parts (paraphrased) I think it's safe to assume that multiple Ideals being sworn at once doesn't happen, or if it ever does it will be so obvious that the narration will actually tell us such. Multiple sentences alone clearly isn't enough to be multiple ideals since Dalinar's done that twice so far. The Skybreakers seem capable of at least theoretically swearing their Third and Fourth together, but the Fourth doesn't actually count for purposes of Radiant progression until they've completed whatever crusade they've pledged themselves to, so it probaby doesn't truly qualify as an Ideal sworn until then. Just like Lopen saying the Windrunners' second Ideal didn't count until the Stormfather thought it would be funny he was ready.
  8. It's possible that whatever Odium did to create the Fused also draws them to Braize (the nexus of his Investiture) whenever they die. He outright states that he could rescind whatever allows any given Singer to be a Fused when one of them questions him, which suggests a more active link than we've seen with other Cognitive Shadows and the Shards whose Investiture has permeated them.
  9. She discusses the godmetal alloys as things that are hypothetical due to the rarity (or for all intents and purposes, nonexistence) of the godmetals needed to create them. Feruchemy is specifically mentioned in the same context as full feruchemists being rare, but doesn't discount the possibility that there could be some, so her discussion of the use of these alloys doesn't necessarily demonstrate that she believes that, say, malatium ferrings exist. There's also the temporal aspect of Khriss' writings at work; we don't know exactly 'when' any given entry was written relative to the events of the books they're written in. Preservation wanted sixteen to be his signature but ran into trouble because knowledge of how many metals were 'supposed' to exist wasn't widely known due to Rashek hiding knowledge of the Enhancement/Temporal metals (which he knew about). But Brandon explicitly said that atium mistings were 'designed' by Preservation so there's more going on than just messing around with the knowledge of viable metals. Mistborn can burn everything, you don't need to hack the system to include godmetal alloys when it's an inherent aspect of their powerset. We know this also applies to feruchemists with their ability to tap/store in all metals because Brandon has confirmed that Sazed experimented with malatium but didn't get very far with it. We've effectively known about the potential for other godmetal alloys since he revealed that the 'Eleventh Metal' was an alloy of atium and gold. We knew about atium having alloys with all sixteen base metals for about a year before Alloy of Law came out, so we could have easily intuited the existence of lerasium alloys before Brandon revealed it in published form. It's entirely possible Brandon just wanted that information available outside of WoBs but doesn't intend for them to play a major role in the end of Era 2. As for the unbalancing theory, we don't actually know that atium was being traded offworld. Rashek was aware of the existence of the trade network running through his world and it's unlikely he would allow atium to go anywhere he couldn't keep an eye on it, even if taking it off Scadrial would keep it out of Ruin's reach. Also, when Hoid tells Kelsier the consequences of his destroying the atium geodes, the context makes it sound like the greater disruption was Kelsier cutting off access to Ruin's Perpendicularity, rather than the atium geodes themselves.
  10. It's aluminum, meaning you get into the whole debate over whether or not that metal can block a Shardblade.
  11. Brandon has said that Larkins and Nightblood are similar in the way they leech Investiture. He's also described Nightblood as being an order of magnitude more powerful than an ordinary (living) Shardblade. Now consider the following WoB: Ergo, it may not be possible to drain the Investiture from Nightblood at all and if it were possible it would be really really hard. And Nightblood would be resisting so it's likely the end result would be the Larkin fleeing in terror, deciding that Nightblood is a god and beginning a cult dedicated to it or getting imploded by Nightblood trying to leech it. Also, Brandon has said that Nightblood isn't powerful enough to kill a Shard, though he's been deliberately vague on just how much damage it could do to one. There's no way a Larkin could do better than that and it would probably get splatted like a bug if it tried. Assuming you could even get a Larkin into a position where it could try to leech a Shard, given that they're mostly in the Spiritual Realm.
  12. Given that I've loved all his non-cosmere works as well (hello Perfect State, hello Snapshot) I just can't find it in me to be disappointed that the secret project is something else. The fact that it's not something he's talked about before is the really interesting bit, as it has infinite potential to surprise us.
  13. Brandon explicitly says no, but we don't have the exact details.
  14. @Shqueeves Fair call that there's no point in, say, a lerasium/steel misting because that's just a Coinshot who may or may not be stronger than normal, probably depending on how much lerasium was in the alloy. But there would presumably be feruchemical uses for those lerasium alloys (the Era 2 ars arcana suggest as much) and the ultimate point is there should be no mistings/ferrings naturally occuring for any godmetal alloys because atium mistings only existed in the first place by Preservation's tweaking to make it so.
  15. I wouldn't be surprised if there is such a system in the major cities and it simply hasn't come up yet because it's not been sufficiently important to the narrative. We know that Elend instittuted a controlled 'Snapping attempt' system during his reign so it wouldn't surprise me if this continued into the post-Catacendre world, even if the threshold has been lowered from where it used to be. As long as it's not so low that active intervention isn't necessary at all. As for determining powers, I'm curious what the cost would be of instituting an appropriate test. You can find certain misting types fairly easily due to burning trace metals they'll encounter naturally (case in point, Vin managing to Soothe before she knew what she was doing) but for everything else you'd need a vial containing trace amounts of all the metals you want to test, for every candidate. I wonder what the economics of that would look like, especially for bendalloy. In any case, I expect we'll get some information on this either in The Lost Metal or once we hit Era 3. Or someone could ask Brandon. There probably aren't naturally-occurring mistings of any godmetal alloys. Atium mistings exist because Preservation tweaked the system to ensure that his plan to keep the atium cache from Ruin worked out. That required that there be atium mistings and that the numbers of people who came down with the mist sickness worked out to create the pattern of sixteens. He apparently did this by bumping out another metal that nobody would notice missing. Brandon's answered various ways on what this is, but has been pretty consistent about it being a metal that would have been difficult or impossible to obtain at that time. Once Harmony Ascended, he could change the system back and there would be no more atium mistings and presumably, no mistings for the many possible alloys involving it and/or lerasium.
  16. One thing to add to this is that while Nightblood can definitely kill a spren he probably could not do it when they're fully manifested in the Physical, or at least not without whacking them a couple of times first. Brandon has mentioned that while Nightblood remains phenominally dangerous on Roshar (perhaps more dangerous in some ways because it's easier for someone using him to get their hands on Investiture to feed him) it's also less dangerous in other ways because other people have Shardblades. The implication seems to be that to some extent they can block Nightblood.
  17. @Merrickz Glad to help. For a couple other bits of information that you may find useful, Brandon has stated that almost all magic systems in the Cosmere are end-positive, and this includes all Selish magic (even what the Dakhor monks do is still drawing power from the Dor). Apparently there is at least one other end-negative system and we've seen hints of it. However, the wording on that is vague enough that we could have unknowingly met a worldhopper with access to the system, or that one of Mraize's unidentified trophies is associated with it, and that would qualify without us actually seeing someone use the magic in question. And now you know.
  18. For the former, I've seen various ideas proposed for how you could get harmonium into a body and keep it from going boom long enough to at least try to burn it (some of which may even work) but my suspicion is that its explosive property (which renders it phenominally dangerous to use in any of the Metallic Arts in a traditional way) is a subtle hint by Harmony that it's not meant to be used that way. We know that non-Scadrian godmetals are not automatically burnable by allomancers so it's not too much of a stretch to go from there to a Scadrian godmetal being designed to be un-burnable even though an allomancer would naturally have Connection to that form of Investiture. For the second, before Rashek reshaped the world the two pools were in Teris. The Well of Ascension (Preservation's Perpendicularity) was there and relocated to below Kredik Shaw and Ruin's Perpendicularity was the black pool that Alendi mentions seeing in his journal, and was moved underground below the Pits of Hathsin. However, Brandon has implied (it's a paraphrase) that harmonium is not the same as an alloy of atium and lerasium.
  19. End-negative means that power is lost at some point during the process. Hemalurgy is end-negative because the power stolen by the spike and transferred to whoever uses it is always weaker than the power of the original owner who was spiked. Honorblades are not end-neutral because at no point in the process is power being lost. They're less efficient than Nahel Bond-granted surgebinding but it's still surgebinding, which is an end-positive system. The power is external to the user (the Investiture comes from the stormlight) and thus represents an overall increase in energy. By way of analogy, look at Awakening (an end-neutral system) and what Vasher calls the Law of Comparability. It takes more breath to awaken a square of cloth than one cut into a shape that resembles something living, but both can do the same things once Awakened. That the former example of Awakening is less efficient than the latter does not make it end-negative, it's the net effect that's important.
  20. Don't worry if you've never seen the term before, it's not something that we know (much) about from the books themselves. It's basically a second ecology that emerged on Yolen some time prior to the events of Dragonsteel and which does not play nicely with what was already there. Most of what we know about it comes from the non-canonical chapters from The Liar of Partinel which Brandon released years ago and as a result, all of the specific details are subject to change. Brandon wasn't satisfied with the book and has mentioned that it's going to be heavily revised before it's published. But the one reference made to fainlife in published materials (Khriss name-drops it in Arcanum Unbounded) confirms that the basic idea is more or less unchanged. See the WoB I posted earlier about Yolen having 'two competing ecologies' for example.
  21. @Thanatos Brandon has said that all Investiture in the cosmere comes from Adonalsium. We do know that Yolen had 'gods' but we don't know exactly what's meant by that and Brandon has stated that this is one of the things that he's still working on in his head so nothing we've seen in released snippets of unpublished works should be trusted. They may still be involved in the existence of fainlife but not as some sort of separate existence that could corrupt Investiture, because they'd still ultimately be associated with Adonalsium's Investiture.
  22. We suspect that 'common' spren associated with a particular Order may be involved in the creation of shardplate, due to what we see happen around Kaladin at times that he's being especially Windrunner-y but that doesn't mean it's a confirmed fact. And as mentioned, Fourth Ideal seems to be the typical threshold but we also know that not all Orders do things in the same way so that's not a hard and fast rule. Their Fourth Ideal is a two-step process but I don't think it's really an exception to the general swearing process. You declare the quest you intend to dedicate yourself to and the spren approves it, but the Ideal doesn't 'count' until you've actually done whatever it is you swore to do. In this it's not too different from what we see in Oathbringer, where it's clear that just knowing the words you're supposed to say isn't enough to swear an Ideal, there's another step involved. In the case of the Skybreakers this step just happens to be an external rather than internal one.
  23. Pretty much what @The One Who Connects said. Another couple of points to bear in mind. Brandon is sneaky, really sneaky, he's also very fond of using exact words and allowing us to trick ourselves. When asked point-blank if reassembling Adonalsium is Hoid's goal, he'll say something like 'That's what the books seem to be indicating'.which is an entirely accurate statement but doesn't actually confirm that this is Hoid's goal. For all we know, Brandon has deliberately written Hoid up until now in a manner that makes it look like this is his goal when his actual endgame is something completely different. And even if that's the case, Brandon's statement will still be completely honest. And completely wrong, from a theorycrafting perspective. Hoid is from Yolen, a world with some interesting features that predate the Shattering. Take a look at some of these WoBs (and one quote from the man himself); they don't and can't confirm that the 'Hoid wants to recreate Adonalsium' theory is wrong but they do offer avenues to interpret the WoB you provided in a different light. One interpretation of the WoB you provided in light of the above is that Hoid's overarching goal has to do with either merging Yolen's competing ecologies in some way or restoring Yolen's ecology to the state it in was before fainlife appeeared, meaning some time before the beginning of Dragonsteel and thus well before the Shattering. This may not require that Adonalsium be put back together, just that he be Shattered in the first place for some reason. I've seen various ideas proposed, such as Adonalsium deliberately creating fainlife (and being killed to stop it from spreading) or being passively responsible in some way and unwilling or unable to prevent it and thus needing to be killed. Following this chain of thought, Hoid could have seen Adonalsium's death as necessary but isn't interested in reassembling him afterwards, just experimenting with various magic systems until he finds the right combination to solve the fain issue once and for all. Of course, given how little we know about Hoid (a fact unlikely to change significantly until Dragonsteel is written) it's also entirely possible his goal is something we can't possibly predict except by sheer luck, in the 'monkeys with typewriters eventually reproducing Shakespeare by random chance' sense.
  24. Any Investiture is capable of recharging the sand and Taldain is mentioned to be a world that's easy for worldhoppers to get Investiture out of, ergo Hoid having Taldaini sand (Invested or not) doesn't tell us anything about whether or not he has access to Sand Mastery. Given that the side that was facing Shallan (who had just finished Lightweaving) was white and the side away from her was not, it's much more likely that she charged the sand and Hoid was using it as a convenient Investiture radar. Or possibly he was carrying it for some other reason and it just happened to get used that way, but its use as a convenient passive sensor makes a good amount of sense. As for whether or not Hoid could even become a Sand Master in the first place (short of hemalurgy, which Brandon has said Hoid would rather avoid) we don't know enough about Initiation on Taldain to even guess how such a thing could happen. Given the apparent genetic component, some sort of hacking would probably be required, much as would be to be Initiated into Selish magic systems. Oh, and since the topic has come up, Hoid does get mentioned with sand in his Warbreaker appearance but Brandon has said that this has nothing to do with Taldain. It's just a part of the Yolish version of Lightweaving.
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