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Uh, Elend could see the mist spirit before he took Lerasium. I expect any Shard at liberty could just show up wherever and be perceived by whoever they want.
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It appears that generally they burn the storage and feed it into another metalmind, since Compounding releases so much of the attribute and they don't need anywhere near that much at a time. And yes, this could theoretically be repeated infinitely. As for why he didn't have any stored age metal ready to burn, that's because storing age uses Atium. Not really practical to do that with. I'm pretty sure that most Feruchemists are Ferrings now because the Keepers got exterminated by Ruin.
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I'm honestly not all that up on Realmantics. Malatium is an external, but it's also temporal in nature, so I don't know what that qualifies as. Do note, though, that she can use the external mentals while burning copper, and Atium seems to be entirely unaffected by copperclouds.
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Personally, I think what happened is that he died and then his corpse was fixed up. Physically, he was completely fine, but as an empty shell with nothing inside. Sure, the body was alive, but I don't think it really qualifies as him as far as the magical aspects are concerned.
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Necroing depends on the forum community. Usually if it's still on the front page and you have something to contribute it's all good. And we're relatively lax about it because we don't have so much activity it pushes active conversations off. Copper might or might not work that way; I'd say it's possible if it takes practice to block non-allomantic detection abilities, since that would imply it selectively jams certain powers and so could theoretically jam a subset of those. If it auto-blocks Lifesense without needing extra effort, that would imply it is a uniform phenomenon that makes the area inherently resistant to such abilities. Actually, it could hypothetically be possible to test this on Scadrial without external assistance; everyone with a single Breath on Nalthis has Lifesense in some capacity, and I consider it reasonably likely that Breaths are basically segments of spiritweb that are partially detached. So Scadrial natives might have Lifesense by default at a very low level but not recognize it as a real sense. Blocking it would manifest as people finding Smokers kinda odd and not readily noticing their presence. Which would explain a lot, except Vin doesn't use it very much. Apparently detecting other power types is a somewhat tricky business and not many people know about Feruchemy or Hemalurgy. The Steel Ministry apparently never found out, but they might just have shrugged and assumed it was inherently impossible after an original generation Mistborn spent a couple months trying without really knowing where to look. Or Rashek might have shut it down; while he seemed pretty intent on wiping out the Keepers he was also running a millennium-long triple bluff. If it can be used for Hemalurgy, he apparently didn't know how, since all three of the exotic types(Koloss,Inquisitors,Kandra, in that order) were created way back at the beginning. Also, I doubt copper would interfere with most types of powers. As far as I'm aware, we haven't heard of it suppressing any Allomancy outside of the mentals quadrant, and other interference seems to be mainly the domain of the enhancement quadrant. I expect it would only work on powers that are mental in nature. Then again, Scadrial divides everything into clearly delineated categories while the other Shardworlds seem to have everything more intermingled. Plus, while everything has the three aspects, it always seemed to me like everything there was more centered on the Physical with the other two as secondary. Probably it's because Ruin and Preservation have such straightforward Intents. So Smokers might have better luck interfering with more cognative-centric power sets, although given that Feruchemical gold doesn't seem to be affected I'm guessing it only helps against externally-directed powers (yes, Allomantic bronze is an internal, but it picks up external effects that Allomantic copper suppresses). Awakening and Forging would probably be particularly susceptible since Cognitive aspects are so prominent in them even for physical applications.
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I'd think if you completely melted an alloy you could separate it into its component parts mechanically. They're not chemically bonded, after all. Of course, some alloys are inconveniently made up of metals with relatively similar properties, making centrifuge-style separation difficult. Failing that, if you can get something to react with the primary component you could then separate out the product.
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I wonder if the stress from draining gems is cumulative. I assume that there's some randomness in when they shatter, since otherwise people would uniformly rotate older ones in Plate to Soulcasting or fabrials, but ones that have been used more might be more likely to fail under stress. It might be that a given gem will shatter if drained above a certain rate, and if you draw at, say, 90% of maximum, the stress lowers the maximum. It would be pretty hard to project exactly when one would blow out, but older ones would be more likely to fail. If that's the case, someone could have pre-stressed gems and then swapped them out without anyone noticing. Heck, someone really patient could have set it up months in advance, slipping old gems into the armorer's supply so Elhokar's armor would fail catastrophically when stressed. Since the gems would work fine under light load, it would escape notice until the worst possible moment. If it were more-or-less random, then there would be a huge varience in how many blew out in a fight, and that apparently does not happen. I guess maybe the Plate could be pretty good at automatically balancing the load and rarely draws enough from a single gem to blow it out, though.
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Yeah, there's more than one way to find things out. Personally, I assumed that eventually someone put two and two together and figured out that a young, black-haired socialite had attended her first party the very night Vin raided Kredik Shaw and was mysteriously indisposed afterwards, then "relapsed" right when the rebels made a major move.
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Huh, I wouldn't have thought that was the case. I wonder what happens if you separate an alloy metalmind into its elemental components; probably it stops working as though you mixed it.
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It's not draining the reflected color of an object but the capacity to absorb incoming light. And it doesn't seem especially likely you can remotely drain an object by contact with light that has passed through it or been reflected, because that's everywhere.
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It glows when he attacks a group of Parshendi archers threatening Bridge Four. Also, Jasnah cracked one gem by transforming a considerable mass at a distance. The amount of energy required to do that is much, much larger than you might assume, especially since it involved changing the elemental makeup of the target. Of course, it's hard to say how physical energy requirements compare to Stormlight consumption across types.
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Well, Demandred said that he'd set Sakarnen so it would backfire on anyone who tried to use it against him, not that it was weaker. There has been no prior evidence that his claim is even possible, but M'hael did not feel like trying to call his bluff.
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He'd been going mad with power thanks to having the capacity to shatter the world at his fingertips, and destroyed it to remove the temptation. Granted, it doesn't appear to directly tamper with the mind, so from a strictly logical perspective it could be used responsibly, but Rand had been starting down the path of solving problems by obliterating everyone who dared defy him. It was probably for the best.
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Plate interferes in Szeth's Lashings; I personally assume that's to protect the bearer from hostile Investiture and works in both directions. I'm on record as saying Radiants can attune to the armor so it allows their own Surgebinding through, but I'm less than sure an entry-level Radiant would be able to do it. Also, Dalinar's Shardplate glows during that fight and on occasions where Elhokar is not present. Still, the suspiciously cracked gems could indicate he drained them unconsciously. I don't think his Plate took enough abuse to actually empty and thus crack the gems unless they were barely charged to begin with, and that would be noticeable when donning the armor. I think he only absorbed Stormlight like Kaladin does, though. Or he subconsciously tried to transform something, the Plate interfered, the Stormlight was wasted, and the gems got overstressed both powering and countering a surge. On the other hand, there is additional evidence that an actual assassination attempt happened. The Chasmfiend moved unexpectedly and attacked the plateau instead of emerging onto the far plateau to go after the bait team. I'm not sure how you'd arrange either that or the cracked gems, but it was suspiciously conveniently timed. With an unexpected attack by a Chasmfiend that large and sabatoged Plate, Elhokar was at significant risk of death even without the cut strap. I guess you could get it to happen by using a set of gems a lot and then sticking them into the Plate; usually they'd be in a rotation because the oldest ones crack and are replaced by fresh ones. Also, even if he did use them for Surgebinding, it's still suspicious so many cracked. Jasnah Soulcasts a lot, but only transforming two humans at a distance shattered her gems.
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I doubt Blades and Plate stolen by assassins remain out of play permanently. Even assuming that their family or organization can secure it instead of them dying on a random street, eventually politics change and no one particularly cares that the Shards got stolen five generations ago. If someone has a Blade and for whatever reason can't openly use it, in general they'd want to give it to someone who could. Exceptions exist, but I seriously doubt ~90% of the Blades are concealed. Plus, Plate can't be dismissed at present, so it can't be trivially hidden, and there's no specific indication that Plate is much more common than Blades. Yes, some people only have Plate, but some people only have Blades.
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1. Demandred is the best swordsman in the world, and his central flaw is overwhelming pride in his own abilities, especially regarding fighting. He fights three blademasters in a row because he is entirely convinced no one can beat him in a one-on-one swordfight, and, well, he's right. No one did better than a draw. If he'd been the type of person who wouldn't let a desire to prove his personal superiority drive him to make a risky decision, he wouldn't have joined the Shadow in the first place. 2. I'm pretty sure both his Sa'Angreal and Egwene's were among the Nine Rods Of Domination mentioned way back in the prologue to the first book. Egwene and M'hael are evenly matched when they've got them. They're powerful, but not stronger than the combined might of the White Tower. His full circle is the biggest concentration of power on either side, but the total strength is actually lower than if they fought as individuals. 3. I wouldn't say any of the rules were broken. Channelers aren't weaker, it's just that both sides have them and the tactical implications get involved. I mean, firstly, both sides have a lot of non-channelers, somewhere in the millions. Enough that totally wiping them out with the One Power isn't actually possible even discounting their own channelers. Secondly, except for the Foresaken when using the True Power, anyone who channels gives their location away to enemy channelers. This means that simply having them go all-out and kill as many targets as possible would let the opposing side ambush them and rapidly exhausts them. So they wind up being used as reserves or to spearhead an attack, because neither side wants to be the first one to commit them. Now, the White Tower army did in fact lean very heavily on the Aes Sedai, which worked pretty well up to the exact moment when they were lured into overextending themselves and Demandred took to the field. And he personally just blasted particularly stubborn concentrations of defenders or knots of engaged channelers, because he thought Rand was waiting in the wings for a chance to strike. I'm pretty sure that he was deliberately not told about the fighting at Shayol Ghul so he'd stay in the field.
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Although that is the proximal reason, I think you're misinterperating it a bit. Ultimately, the reason Rand was contemplating unraveling the Pattern was that every terrible thing would happen again and again, and then Lewis Therin pointed out that every good thing would also happen again and again. Also, events don't repeat precisely one-for-one, so it was possible things could go better. It struck me as a rather logical and touching counter-point to the argument that suffering would exist as long as the Pattern remained.
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Investiture is pretty much universally a positive, although it's not always applicable. AonDor is very broad and if someone knows the correct Aon it'd be useful in any situation. Forging and Soulcasting let you turn things into other things, and since the Cosmere is not post-scarcity (i.e. there is not enough stuff to give everyone literally everything they want, although this doesn't preclude having enough food and such for everyone) it is quite likely for a situation to arise where you have something on hand but want something else. Allomantic pewter and Windrunning give generic and very broad improvements to physical activity of all kinds, including coordination. Using the Lashings for surgery might be a bit tricky, although Full Lashing for emergency suturing would be really helpful, but the ability to move oneself and heavy objects quickly is generically useful and thus frees up time and effort for any specific activity that they don't directly help with. Awakening basically lets you have more hands for whatever, although unless you've got well-selected Lifeless it won't help much with precision work. Like Allomantic pewter, Dakhor powers seem to have generic physical improvements avaliable, and if you are really desperate/cruel it does have a mass teleport ability in case you need something that isn't close at hand or need to get somewhere quickly. Sazed handily demonstrates that Feruchemy is good for almost anything. Now, individual Mistings/Ferrings are not so broadly applicable, since they've got the narrowest powersets, although the physicals are always at least mildly helpful. That said, someone with Investiture does not necessarily trump someone else who does not have it. It would have been basically useless for Siri unless she had quite a lot, since there were enough priests and guards that fighting them all was non-viable. Even in a situation where violence is heavily involved, Elend is critical despite not having Investiture because he talked the skaa and nobility out of killing each other. Up to the very end, Investiture aside from emotional allomancy or being a zinc ferring would not have helped Sarene much because the whole contest was basically political. In general, the trend is that Investiture does not trump being able to convince people to do what you want. Anyway, as for the original question, I don't think you can really do that. The thing is, in order to store something in a metalmind, you need to have it in the first place. A Nicrosil twinborn could store and compound burning allomantic Nicrosil... which is kinda spectacularly useless because it doesn't seem likely allomantic Nicrosil has degrees. And while we don't know too much about the underlying mechanics, I am supremely dubious that, even if you could store being able to use allomancy at all, you would be able to re-snap as another type. At best, you could repeatedly get and store whatever you can use and tap that, but I expect that you wouldn't be able to do that either. If it were possible, it seems like the others could be exploited in a similar manner to get permanent improvements by storing an attribute and then working to improve that, like storing pewter down to the level of a recent invalid and going through physical therapy to get back to normal, then ending the storage. Since that would be useful but Sazed doesn't do it, I expect it is impossible. I also don't think it stores the ability to use allomancy or whatever, I think it stores actually using it. Also, apparently the RPG says that stored investiture can be transferred to any metalmind of the user. So I think what would happen is that a mistborn with Feruchemical nicrosil could burn steel, store the investiture from the burning, and use that as any of the standard metals. Possibly also as the God Metals, but at an incredibly steep exchange rate because an Atium bead contains a vast amount of Investiture as well as allowing access to the generalized pool. One theory of mine is that TLR had a single nicrosil metalmind and made extensive use of it. Possibly the bracers were multiple metalminds, and when refining them to Atium they assumed everything else was nothing of particular interest. As for why it wasn't mentioned in the caches, maybe he just had no idea where to get more. This would explain why his Allomancy is so much stronger than even a first-generation Mistborn like Elend ends up being. Also, it helps explain his aging; he compounds something else, stores that in the nicrosilmind, and transfers it to the Atiummind. I am dubious that he directly compounded Atium, because there was literally no Atium in the entirety of Kredik Shaw outside of the bracers. Sure, he might just have finished using the last supply run, but he seemed pretty unconcerned given that the Pits had been crippled. And while the primary stockpile would doubtless have lasted him quite a while, accessing it would have been problematic.
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I think what he meant was that there's a gigantic line of cracked rock right down the center of the fields. That area is now basically unfarmable. Really productive cropland generally needs to have deep soil, and efficient farming techniques require it be relatively flat. This does depend on the type of crop, but I expect that whatever the area previously grew is not even remotely suited to the new conditions.
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Well, "death" is kind of a nebulous term in a number of ways. People have been revived as much as an hour after their hearts stopped beating, although only in very cold situations. Since the link is spiritual, I expect the Shardblade would emerge whenever someone became sufficently dead that totally reconstructing their entire physical body and restoring it to prime condition would not result in a successful revival, which TES demonstrates is a thing that can happen in the Cosmere.
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Given that the radius of the effect of the Calamity is at least over the entire continental US and presumably global, I suspect its apparently fixed presence in the sky is an indication that it does not properly have a specific location in three-dimensional space, especially given how it's visible through the opaque shadow over Newcago. Though it's also possible the effect passes through the entire Earth. Actually, come to think of it, do we have any evidence it actually exists? I mean, apparently everyone can see it, even in video, but that doesn't entirely preclude it being a mass hallucination resulting from the same mechanism as the Epic Effect. I may possibly have been reading too many memetic/cognitohazard SCP entries lately.
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Yeah, probably. Otherwise it'd be fairly easy to get them to evaluate statements of unknown truth value, at least for people who are pretty confident they are true. Also, it's possible to conceal information from Shards, so it's highly unlikely the Cryptics can absolutely confirm any arbitrary statement as true or false. Then again, it's possible they compare statements to what they think is objective truth and can potentially be deceived.
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Uncle Kiin.
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Stormlight (and Surgebinding)
name_here replied to Glaring at the Survivor's topic in Stormlight Archive
1. All Surgebinding we've seen from anyone to date has required Stormlight. I expect they all do. 2. There has been no particular indication that any type of gem holds more Stormlight than other types. I'm reasonably confident in saying Soulcasting needs to draw Stormlight from the gem corresponding to the Essence that will result, but Windrunning doesn't seem to care. Now, larger gems are better, and apparently to a greater extent than the square-cube law would imply because gems shatter when drained too much, so downgrading denominations probably isn't wise. Kaladin's legitimate income was paid in diamonds as it was, however, and he spent his unoffical income.
