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  1. TheMightyLopen
    I'm definitely looking forward to reading the Skindancer doc. I always enjoy reading the eliminator docs, but between you, Burnt, Mailliw and DeathClutch(though I'm not sure how active of a planner/talker he is in docs since this was his first eliminator game right?), I think it will be a very entertaining read. Also, depending on if you have another member and WHO that member might be, that could add some more interesting stuff. Hael, didn't you say you got the pickpocket ability? I'm pretty sure he wouldn't lie about that. It's easy enough to confirm, since if you target him with an Action, he'll rob you.
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    Danosaur. Lopen. There we go. I'm actually not sure who the last Skindancer is, or even if there is another one. It's possible that they only started with 4, but I'm not sure. With DeathClutch going into Alchemy, it would seem that they wouldn't be terribly worried about numbers to begin with, so I'd say 5, but I'm not certain. Danosaur is still my first guess for the last Skindancer.
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    Fae Lore should block you destroying the field. I guess we'll just have to wait and find out though. Or, y'know, we could ask Wilson... Elbereth, you should be ready to move or cancel his votes.
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    I did have a chance to take it last Month I guess(unless you have protection). I decided to be kind and make 100% sure you were a Skindancer though. Too bad.
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    Did he take away your EP?
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    At the moment, I should be the only one with the power to take it though. @Everyone, I roleblocked Haelbarde with Fae Lore. He's a confirmed Skindancer. Edit: What Elbereth? Why would you have voted on Araris?
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    Glad to see I was right about DeathClutch. Haelbarde, I'm coming after your head now. A deal has been struck.
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    Good to know, thanks. I've received one or two PM's from him. But not much content to speak of. As the Master Archivist, I receive a list of how much EP players have in Archives. This is how many EP players had in Archives: Araris - 21, Joe - 18, Maill - 10, Wonko - 8, STINK - 7, Clanky - 4 and I put my last 2 EP in Archives just before I was elevated to Master. Post from Wonko that he PM'd me. Changed the wording and stuff to stay within the rules. ----------- He said that since Muffin is publicly known about, expelled Students can be scanned if they just PM Muffin the "I am not a Skindancer" phrase. He says that the expelled Students are low priority targets though, since they can't target anyone besides those in Imre, and they have to guess who's there for it to work. He said he'd send in his phrase each Month though, just because. He also says that we should focus on those players who can actually eliminate us. (Lopen speaking: I agree with this. Those who are still sane, University attending players should be our priority for clearing/exposing as Skindancers, because they can do the most damage. Thus why I'm focusing on Haelbarde and Danosaur.) He said that he was disappointed in his failed attack on Maill, but his roleblocking him for 3 turns was practically killing him. He said to make sure that didn't happen again, he came up with the Bonestorm attack which we just witnessed. He explains he called you bloodthirsty because he didn't understand why Maill and STINK needed to be killed off that Night like you were insisting. He said he wasn't actually suspicious of you, but was just pushing at an apparent irregularity to see if anything gave. He also voiced displeasure at being lumped in with your(Clanky) suspicion of STINK because of his expulsion. ----------- Yeah, Clanky, I'm fairly positive that Wonko is a Student. He's been a Namer for a while. He's attacked 2 Skindancers, taking the protection off of one and roleblocking them and killing the other one. He's never attacked anyone else. He suggested the Linguistics Analysis plan. He even risked insanity to kill Burnt. I cannot even think that a Skindancer would risk insanity to kill one of their own members to try and gain trust. So yeah, I firmly believe that both you and Wonko are Students, and this kind of nitpicking isn't gonna help us catch Skindancers. A final warning: The Month ends in about an hour. Get your lodging orders in if you haven't already!
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    In response to Elbereth and Clanky both. I understand that someone putting points in the same field as a Skindancer doesn't clear them. But Joe and Araris put so much into Archives that it seems wasteful for a Skindancer to do that. I hadn't really thought about them trying to stop Students from elevating in a field by having 2 of their members putting a lot of EP into that field. That's an interesting thought. Archives isn't super helpful for the Skindancers. Fae Lore - roleblocks Skindancers, useless. Omen recognition - scan for Skindancer activity, useless. Role scan which name I forget - helpful, but with the elevations being public, it's easier to guess where someone is elevated(but doesn't say what ability they got, so still helpful). Banned Books - Very useful, could allow a Skindancer to get diverse abilities. Expelled Students can still get scanned. They just have to PM the Linguistics Analysis the phrase.
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    Okay! Player Analysis! Let's hope I'm at least mildly accurate. Lopen - Student Master. Wonko - He attacked Mailliw once and killed Burnt. Was also expelled by Burnt. Suggested very good idea to use Linguistics Analysis. I'm very sure he's a Student. Clanky - Was the first player to be sabotaged. Suggested to Wonko to attack Mailliw. I'm fairly confident that he's a Student as well. He has been scanned as such by FireMuffin, so if you believe FireMuffin is a Student, Clanky is that much more cleared. Elbereth - The only other Edema Ruh besides Burnt. While that doesn't clear her, because Wilson totally could have trolled the Skindancer team and given them both Edema Ruh, based on the fact that I have a good amount of trust in all the other Nobleman besides me, I don't think it's plausible for her to be a Skindancer, since giving them both Edema Ruh would undoubtedly warrant giving them 2 Noblemen. Also, gut read on her as Student. Her posts seem Student-y. Ostrichofevil - Second sabotage victim. I don't see why they'd use a WGG on him. Most likely a Student. Kynedath - Sabotage victim. He had been elevated 3 times when they sabotaged him, so very unlikely candidate for a WGG I think. I think they targeted him because at the time he was the most powerful(and therefore dangerous) player. Most likely a Student. Only Joe - Put a good chunk of his EP into Archives, which is the field Mailliw focused solely on, leading me to believe that Joe wouldn't have put so much EP there if he was a Skindancer as well. He was also expelled by Mailliw. Probably a Student. Araris - Same as Joe, he put a LOT of EP into Archives. He also voted on Mailliw at one point because Mailliw was supposedly asking him about his elevation in a PM. I think he's probably a Student. Mailliw did mention at one point that it was possible that PK was sabotaged because the Skindancers were focusing on Archives for some reason. I think he said that because he knew that a good amount of players were going after Archives and so wanted to cast suspicion on the other players in that field. I'm not sure why more than one Skindancer would focus on a field like Archives. It doesn't make much sense to me, unless Mailliw was planning on destroying Archives and then another one of the Skindancers would be like "oh no, I had most of my EP there! Darn!" to try and gain trust. I don't know how plausible that is though. I'd say Araris is probably a Student too. STINK - Mailliw got him expelled. Mailliw suggested to Clanky to kill him. Burnt had him as her top suspect. He Assassinated PK on the same Month as the Skindancers attacked PK. He also put a good amount of his EP into Archives. If I'm right about Haelbarde being a Skindancer, then that's even more evidence pointing towards STINK's innocence, because Haelbarde voted on him a couple times. As of right now, I think STINK is probably a Student. FireMuffin - Was attacked twice by the Skindancers. While I do think he's probably a Student, I have a small bit of paranoia about him. It's very small though. Dowanx - Was expelled due to a vote from DeathClutch I believe. Also suggested using Plum Bobs on Burnt, which was a good idea. Not 100% convinced that he's a Student, but that's my guess right now. I also had a gut read of Student for him(even though he kept voting for me! ). The only players left are Haelbarde(Master Rhetorician. He's already basically revealed that.), Danosaur(I know what he's the Master of, but I'll leave it up to him to decide if he wants to publicly reveal), and DeathClutch(I'm fairly confident that all 3 of his elevations were in Alchemy, because PK was elevated in Alchemy the one time DC wasn't elevated, as well as the fact that it's almost certain that he went insane due to his field of study rather than the Skindancer sabotage. My notes suggest that was what he was elevated in every time as well. Another possible theory for why PK was sabotaged is that he'd put some EP into Alchemy and Archives, which, if DeathClutch is a Skindancer, would be 2 fields that Skindancers were going after. I don't know if Mailliw knew he had put some EP into Alchemy though.). Haelbarde's votes: 2 times on STINK. 1 time on Clanky. 1 time on BB. 1 time on Sasuke(Weaving Webs - Student). 3 times on Kipper. 4 times on FireMuffin for inactivity. I personally think all of those players are Students(of course, we know that BB, Kipper and Sasuke were, and I think it's all but certain that Clanky is as well). Hael, this tunnel is getting narrower and narrower... I think it would make a lot of sense for the Skindancer team to be made up of Mailliw(Aturan - completely focused on Archives), Burnt(Edema Ruh - completely focused on Linguistics), Haelbarde(Cealdish - almost completely focused on Rhetoric and Logic), DeathClutch(Yllish - completely focused on Alchemy I believe) and Danosaur(Cealdish - completely focused on something that isn't one of those, and also isn't an insane causing field). So that would be four players focusing on the fields that don't cause insanity, with the one other player focusing on a field that can cause insanity(DeathClutch - Alchemy). It might be a little obvious though. It's possible they did something to throw off the pattern, like having 2 players go into the same field(like, say Araris and Mailliw, or anyone in Archives and Mailliw really). OR, it might be possible that the Skindancers only started with 4 players. Could be why Burnt wanted to stay alive(other than just wanting to stay alive just because). I'm gonna assume they started with 5 though. Better safe than sorry. So far, my biggest surprise is that I don't think any of the Skindancers went into Naming. That is...odd. I'm really only voting to stop any last minute shenanigans that might happen. Hael and Dano are Masters, so it doesn't affect them.
  11. TheMightyLopen
    LG14 was fun. It was my third game, but my first time to win(all thanks to the Brightness Ascendant of course). Although it was the one and only time I've been lynched as a villager. I still hold a special place in my heart for Mailliw because of that. Edit: Hey, I'm not much of a troll am I?
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    Hmm. That sounds like a pretty dangerous team. Also would take a lot of time. Killing you is easier. So, I still haven't gone back through the thread and checked for connections between the revealed Skindancers and living players, but what do you think Hael? Any good suspicions? How about players that you think are most likely Students? Edit: Actually, those questions should be answered by everyone. That is our goal after all. To find the Skindancers so we can kill them. So who do you all think could be a Skindancer? Let's get some discussion going, and maybe we can figure it out!
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    Well, yeah, if she wanted to go insane!
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    Elbereth should kill me, become the Master of Archives, then use Banned Books to learn that ability. Simple. Or just kill Hael and take his place. Wonko asked me to remind everyone to SEND IN LODGING ORDERS. Those Mercenaries are still out there, waiting for more Students to murder...
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    Senator Palpatine is joining the politics. He's trying to become ChancellorGovernor.
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    Okay, Wilson explained that there was a slight mix-up with the EP and Araris does still have 21 EP in Archives. So nevermind about that then. My PM(s) with Burnt finally. Shortened and changed slightly, because of rules: T1:M1 - Random non-helpful stuff. T2:M1 - She told me she'd been elevated in Linguistics. I told her I'd put all of my EP in Archives, which is why I figured I'd just reveal that I'm the Master Archivist. We talked about tuition stuff for a bit. Not a whole lot of talking though. T2:M2 - We talked about her lack of money again. She told me she'd scanned me with Linguistics Analysis and so I was cleared! Yay! She told me she'd probably scan either Wonko or Kipper next, eventually going with Wonko because she'd received a PM from him and wanted to talk openly with him(even though I suggested Kipper, because I thought Wonko was more cleared than Kipper because he suggested the "I am not a Skindancer" thing). T3:M1 - Explained why she went with Wonko over Kipper. Uhhh, now that I look back at that specific PM, I think she may have c/p'd it from a doc...Not much in this PM that's relevant now. T4:M1 - She told me she hadn't been PMing me much because Wonko was keeping her busy with his PM's. Told me she'd won her talent pipes(a lie). Said she'd scan either Elbereth or Mailliw, because they both were receiving some suspicion. She also told me that Elbereth and Mailliw were cooperating and getting players elevations(which Elbereth has revealed already) and she said that she'd told Elbereth that she was elevated in Linguistics. She also gave me her list of percentages about the players, with STINK as her top suspect, and then Mailliw and DeathClutch as the next 2. We know that Mailliw was a Skindancer and I think DeathClutch may be one, so if I'm right about DC, I think that would point to STINK being a Student. She had Haelbarde as her most trusted player, besides those players she'd scanned or who had gone insane. She said her main reason for being suspicious of STINK was her severely disliking the way he's playing the game(Assassinating people 'cause he could and making an Edema Ruh's life harder, talking about how he voted on Elbereth a while back). She said mostly he was just annoying her and she didn't really know if she thought he was actually a Skindancer. T4:M2 - She told me she'd been staying at the Mews for the whole game(which I have a theory is why DeathClutch never unleashed his Alchemist powers on any Buildings, because a buddy of his was in the Mews, which I'm guessing is the place a lot of players have been staying because it's so cheap and so would be the place most likely to do the most damage). She told me she was gonna scan Mailliw. Said she was annoyed at STINK but couldn't read him. I figured out that she could scan 2 players at once since she'd been elevated in Linguistics twice and thus had 2 Action periods. This was the Month where Mail lied about his lodging to me and I asked Burnt not to scan him because of that. I think she scanned FireMuffin and Danosaur, at my request(I was suspicious of both of them at the time). They turned up as honest though(according to Burnt mind you). T6:M1 - There was a gap where I didn't talk to her because I was on my trip. So I PM'd her last Month and asked how the scans had been going. She told me she'd scanned Haelbarde and Clanky as liars(this was right before she was revealed). Then, once she was revealed, we talked quite a lot. She told me she'd stalked my PM's but that that Month I didn't say anything(I think there was 2 Months where I didn't PM at all) and that I had been a frequent suggestion for sabotage(I've been attacked twice now! ). She said Maill might have suggested me as a target a few times. She said sabotaging Muffin was a lost cause because she knew that Clanky and Wonko were sending him stuff and he could make Bloodless. I asked her why they sabotaged PK, and she said she didn't remember why, but that she thinks Mail decided on that(I asked because I was curious if she'd say actually say anything or not. Her answer makes me think that STINK is not a Skindancer, because if he was one, I would think that she would have had a more clear idea of why they'd chosen PK, given that if STINK was a Skindancer there most likely would have been some talk about them both sabotaging and killing PK on the same Month.). She also clarified what happened on the Month where they targeted 2 players and so they didn't sabotage anyone. She said they'd decided to go after 2 possible targets and that one of them sent in the order for 1 of them, but didn't say so on the doc and so another player sent in an order for the other possible target just to be safe and thus neither of the players were attacked because of the lack of communication. She also said she stalked Clanky's PM's on T5:M2 I think it was. So Clanky, you might want to check your PM's in that Month to figure out what she learned from them. I think that's most of it. Since she said she was the one sabotaging a few of the times, it's possible she scanned one of her buddies at some point. Why? Because using the sabotage takes an Action period I think, and so she'd only have had 1 more Action period during some of the Months(until she was elevated a third time), meaning that if she scanned 2 Students, she would have been risking being revealed if either of them had actually lied and she would say they were telling the truth. Not a lot we can gain from that, but it's something that could be considered. Based on her interactions with Clanky and Wonko, I'm fairly certain that they are both Students. I also think that Elbereth is as well, but not quite as much as Clanky and Wonko. Although I don't remember Elbereth knowing that Burnt had Linguistics, and Burnt said that Elbereth should have known because Burnt said she answered Elbereths questions truthfully about her elevation in Linguistics. Elbereth, could we get some more information about this? Edit: First long post in a while. I feel better now.
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    Yeah, I do remember your vote being a counter vote/RP vote on Kipper. I've been trying to figure out which side STINK is on. It's difficult. I remember you suggesting some things about the Analysis as well. I could still see you saying and suggesting those things from a Skindancer point of view though(especially since Burnt did have that power, which means confirming she had that power wouldn't have done much). I'll try and review the stuff about the revealed Skindancers and look at your posts a little closer as well, and hopefully come up with something and not tunnel on you if you're a Student. (But if you're a Skindancer... ) Something I just noticed, but Araris lost 5 EP from his 21 EP in Archives(yes, I'm the Master Archivist). Which means that someone must have used some kind of manipulation on me placing my DP. I sent in the Action to place all of my DP on Burnt, but the only way Araris gets Archive EP taken off is if I place it. Haelbarde, I believe you have some Action manipulation power? Actually, besides Wonko, you're the only player I know of who has any Action manipulation.
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    Ah yes, I hadn't noticed that lie. Still, it seems like a needless one. It's important for Students not to lie so that they're available for clearing. It's possible that you might have intentionally lied so that you could say "I lied in the thread already, so you can't scan me." Which means we have to wait another Month to scan you and be able to see if you're telling the truth with your "I am not a skindancer" post. Mailliw lied in thread almost the exact same way(I think it was a lie), stating that he was staying at the Horse and Four, when in my PM with him he told me he was staying at the Golden Pony. He explained to me that he lied because he didn't want the Skindancers to know he was staying at the Golden Pony in case they attacked him saying he wanted to possibly block their attack. Also, going back through your posts, you actually semi defend both Mailliw and Burnt at different times. Once, when we were trying to figure out which Nobleman was likely a Skindancer, you said Clanky and Wonko were most likely Students, I'd been scanned, which left STINK and Mailliw. You said you were more suspicious of STINK than Mailliw and focused almost solely on him(I'm still uncertain about STINK's alignment myself though). Then later, when the "Analyst"(Burnt) was being discussed, you say that it seemed like the situation in AG2, where there's a village Seeker scanning only villagers. Implying that Burnt was a villager(or Student in this case). I'm not sure about this, but I think your votes have mostly been on Students as well. I know that you voted on BB and Kipper early on. I think you voted on STINK for some reason as well, but since STINK is alive, it's hard to draw conclusions from that. Anyways, I'm sure this is clear, but I'm quite suspicious of you. I think I'd go so far as to say you're my top suspect right now. I do need to review the interactions between the known Skindancers and the still sane, living players though.
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    So as an example to make 100% sure I understand this right: 4 players have complaints on them. I put all of my DP on player A. Player A dies. So my DP just kinda disappears rather than going to some of the 3 living players who had complaints on them? If that's the case, that means that Wonko was expelled with only 35 DP available(mine and Hael's should have dissolved) and 4 players with complaints on them that could receive those discipline points(me, Hael, Danosaur and Wonko). Which means that Wonko was either fairly unlucky(realistically you should have to get 13 DP or above to get expelled) or there was evil stuff happening with votes/DP placement. I personally think that one or possibly both Danosaur and Haelbarde are Skindancers. Hael and Dano have both made statements that can be checked with Linguistics Analysis. Hael, could you post the I am not a Skindancer phrase? I think everyone should still be doing this, especially now that there's a different player who has the Linguistics Analysis ability. I am not a Skindancer by the way. Also, Hael, what exactly was that lie you told in the thread a while back when Burnt "scanned" you? And for what reason did you intentionally lie in the thread?
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    Well I can't say I didn't see that coming. Too bad you guys ignored me. (Except for Clanky, who I finally managed to get to vote by PM'ing him!) Danosaur, where did you put your DP? And why exactly did you vote on Burnt, when I asked for players to spread the votes around? I'd already voted on her, and it's not like she would be staying at the Horse and Four. Haelbarde, I saw you viewing the thread right when Burnt posted her votes. Are you saying you NEVER thought to use your Rhetoric powers to cancel or move her votes once she was revealed to be a Skindancer??? I specifically said in the thread we needed to spread votes around to stop her from doing exactly what she did. Also, Hael, where did you put your DP? I put all of mine on Burnt, which was probably a mistake, since she died. I'm guessing that means that some of it went to Wonko. So sorry to Wonko for that misstep of mine. GM's, are Clanky's votes valid even though he's not attending the University? If you can't tell, I'm upset. Twice I posted saying we needed to spread the votes around. I just really don't like when something like this happens because the good guys just don't do anything, even though there was plenty of warning. I guess I should capitalize and bold my posts next time. Wonko did kill Burnt yes. I was attacked by the Skindancers.
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    So are we gonna do the "spread the votes so the revealed Skindancer doesn't get 2 Students expelled" thing? Even if we're not really, we could at least put votes on the Masters, to make certain that the DP has more places to go than 1 or 2 players. I also vote that Burnt should be killed right away. There is almost no benefit to her staying alive(I mean, it's fun talking to her and stuff, but that probably won't help us a ton. Sorry Burnt! Or am I... ).
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    Stormlight 3 in Fall of 2017. So sad.

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    I actually didn't think we'd win by killing Strawman. Alv was an Epic that could scan players and he scanned Strawman and learned he was an Epic, and I had PM'd him with my Cycle 4 PM and told him I was a Hit Man and gave him the faction list. So he scanned Strawman, told me he(Strawman) was an Epic, I headed to the Ferry, guessing that's where Strawman was going based on his previous locations and poisoned him. I really thought the Neighborhood Watch had another Epic though, so I wasn't actually trying to finish off the game with that kill. No regrets though, since the Neighborhood Watch might have won if they'd just overpowered the lynch.
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    Don't yell at her! She's just hungry. Or maybe she hasn't had her nap yet.
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    That's what I'm trying to figure out. As far as I can see, Araris is the only player who could possibly become an Alchemist. Sane players: Lopen - Master. Wonko - El'the Clanky - Was insane, so can't be elevated. Araris - Re'lar - so he CAN be elevated one more time. He would instantly start getting 3 IP each Month though. Haelbarde - Master. FireMuffin - El'the. So no more elevations except Master for him. Plus, he's already getting 3 IP from his Artificery. Danosaur - Master. Elbereth - El'the. No more elevations except Master. Burnt - El'the. Obviously, she wouldn't work even if it was possible. Expelled Students can't learn new abilties and neither can previously insane players. Edit: So you'd finally PM me if we got you expelled huh Burnt?
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