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Mid-Range Game 31: Spiritual Warfare
TheMightyLopen replied to Jo and the Bush's topic in Sanderson Elimination
Awww, that's no fun. He hasn't voted on Shqueeves though? He's one of the few who hasn't voted on him since the information about Shqueeves was posted. Not that I disagree with you though, because Cadcom is actually one of my top suspicions as well. Specifically, I thought he sounded too sure of himself in his post where he first voted on Bard last Cycle. I was a bit suspicious of Steel early on, but he really hasn't posted much lately, which strangely enough makes me lean more village on him because I think he'd be actively trying to avoid suspicion were he actually evil instead of going quiet. Just doesn't seem like the type of elim to do that. Straw is another I'm mildly suspicious of, although I've been wrong multiple times before with him, so I'm very unsure about that read. Shqueeves seems like a good lead, so I'll drop my vote there just to increase the gap. I think Mailliw's suggestion for the Wildmen is especially useful this Cycle, since it looks like the lynch is basically decided for this Cycle(barring any new information). For that vote I'll go Cadcom. No one else has really stood out to me as suspicious that I can recall. Tbh I haven't gone over everyone's posts very thoroughly, so I don't have a lot of strong reads. I've got a couple village reads, but I feel like in a conversion game it's risky to try and convince people of someone's innocence because that makes them a target for conversion, so I'll keep those to myself unless I think I should defend them from a lynch or something. -
Mid-Range Game 31: Spiritual Warfare
TheMightyLopen replied to Jo and the Bush's topic in Sanderson Elimination
I guess I should post something... While I'm normally for aggressive plans, I do think revealing factions this early would probably do more harm than good. I think I agree with Alv that only one of the elims probably started in a gang, especially since Galladon's ability is to help them figure out who is in which faction. If they started off in 2 factions, they could fill things in pretty fast with that ability and their conversions. I'm glad this was brought forward for discussion though, since I think we can look over the responses and hopefully glean some information on players alignments. I'll look over things tomorrow to see if I can catch anything fishy. I don't really have many more thoughts. I got clarification from Joe that we do need a 2 vote minimum to lynch someone, which means Raoden can't just kill someone with his vote manipulation if we decide not to put any votes down. -
Mid-Range Game 31: Spiritual Warfare
TheMightyLopen replied to Jo and the Bush's topic in Sanderson Elimination
Ooh, I can't miss @Mailliw73's return! Welcome back! Sign me up as Flavio! -
Yeah, this all seems right. Araris.
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Right, that's what I was thinking about. So it wasn't Rae then? Also, Rae, great job with the song parodies! That must take some serious work. And of course excellent shot on Devotary.
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Whaaaaat?! That's awesome. I was aware that Devotary was being attacked, hence removing my vote late in the Cycle, but how did Alv die? What's funny is he was my suggestion to the player who killed Devotary. @Straw, who died from inactivity? Bort? Current suspects: Araris, Lopen2arms, and Arraenae. Araris voted on Alv once I believe, and Rae put suspicion on Devotary(but also on Snipexe at the same time and didn't vote).
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I'm actually really curious to know Elanderas alignment, so I'll switch. Devotary. Elandera.
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To explain this, I've been scanned and I told Itiah about it just a little while ago.
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Well, I think I'm just gonna be playing by gut the rest of the way. I haven't had much time and since it's a QF, things go by so fast that I feel like I'm just gonna fall behind if I only post when I've got a lot of time to look things over. So, with that in mind, I'm gonna vote Devotary. He's one of the players I've got in my "maybe suspicious" list, and I didn't really like his vote on Snipexe as it seemed somewhat bandwagon-y. To make sure everyone is aware, we probably don't have enough time for more than one mislynch. So we need everyone voting!
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Yeah, after putting my vote on you, I started feeling bad about your lynch, so I was going to remove my vote from you last minute just to try and get as much reactions to your lynch as possible, but I accidentally fell asleep. For what it's worth, I'm glad you didn't die, even though I'm still not sure about your alignment. I can agree with this. If I had to move one of my "don't want to lynch" players into the "am fine with lynching" list it'd probably be Snipexe, since I don't have anything substantial on him. Hm, actually, I just read his last post of last Cycle, which I hadn't seen yet. Still no solid read, but I think it reads more village to me, because of the way he reacts to probably dying right then. Devotary, still not sure either, but he's always been tough to read for me.
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Straw rescinded the rule about tied lynches resulting in both players deaths. So if the lynch does tie, only one player will die. I'm fine leaving it up to chance if it comes down to it, because I've got no clue.
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Well...at this point I figure people could put 2 and 2 together and guess that I claimed Thug to Cadcom. I'm not a Thug, but I just wanted to make it less likely for the elims to kill me in case either Cadcom or Lopen2arms was an elim(because me and Cadcom claimed to each other in a group PM he created on C1 with me, him, and Lopen2arms). Anyways, new vote tally: Snipexe(4): Gancho, Drake, Devotary, BortGancho(2): Alvron, RaeOplen(1): Araris Araris(3): Stick, Drake, Oplen Guess I'll add my vote to Araris like I said I would.
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I also don't like the lynch targets all that much, so if you gave a compelling argument to lynch someone else, I'll vote alongside you. The players I don't want to vote on are: me, Drake, Bort(might die soon), you, Rae, Gancho, Snipexe, and Lopen2arms. That leaves Alvron, Devotary, Elandera, Stick, and Araris.
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Could you elaborate more about your reasoning for voting Stick? I don't understand the thought process exactly about someone knowing your role leading to Stick being suspicious. To be clear, I'm still unsure about Stick myself, so I don't mind the vote, but I'm just not sure what you're getting at. Vote tally: Snipexe(3): Gancho, Drake, Devotary Gancho(2): Alvron, Rae Oplen(1): Araris Stick(1): Elandera I have no idea who to vote for. Snipexe and Gancho haven't said that much, and while I did kind of agree with Alv about Gancho at first, after looking over his posts, I'm not all that suspicious of him. I could vote for Stick I guess... Ninja'd because I can't figure out who to vote for. XD I'm just gonna post and then come back to this in a bit.
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If the coinshot/mistborn is village, it would make sense to give the elims a Thug or Lurcher as protection(Thug especially as it can also protect against lynches), and since you're a thug, I'd be extra suspicious of you. But, on the other hand, if the elims have a coinshot/mistborn, then it's unlikely they'd also have a protection role since that would give them an extra attack and extra lives, so you'd most likely be village IMO. See explanation above.
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Like I said, I wasn't crazy about putting a vote on you when you weren't around, but I felt like Itiah probably isn't an eliminator(still feel this way) and I didn't have a good feeling about you for whatever reason, so yeah. I think the reason I feel slightly suspicious about you is that I have better reads on most of the other active players and I haven't had similar feelings about your posts, so it's more that I don't see a good option so I was going with someone I was unsure of. As a counter point to this, there's likely only 3 elims. If Elandera is an elim, and one of them is only semi-active, then it would be very risky for her teammates to try to rescue her from being lynched again, since it could end up connecting them. Also, the soothe could have been meant to protect Itiah, since I only moved my vote about an hour before the Cycle ended. Sorry about not posting before now, I've been busy all day. I checked in once or twice, so I guess you may have seen me online if that's what you meant about me lurking, but I haven't had the opportunity to post anything until now. @Straw, are the write-ups going to show how players are attacked/killed, or is it all fluff? I'm really not sure where I want to put my vote. If the coinshot/mistborn attack was from a villager, that would make Elandera more suspicious, but if they're elim, she's more likely village. I'm not particularly suspicious of her posts, but I also don't have any other leads I feel good about. :/ I'm gonna review things and then put a vote down. Edit: Oh! I forgot to mention that Cadcom said if he was killed tonight, he put up a safety net to try and figure out who sent in the kill on him. I'm not sure how that would work, but Araris said he was supposed to give a name(Stick) to someone, sooooo I don't know what to think about that.
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Urghgh, I'm really unsure about Itiah after that last post. It just reads as really genuine to me, so I'm gonna switch my vote to Elandera. I know she's not around to defend herself, so I'm not crazy about this, but I don't really like any other options.
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Sorry for my lateness this cycle! I wasn't feeling very well earlier but I'm good now and ready to dive back in. I don't know that everyone should roleclaim, but I feel like a lot of times players are so wary of giving something away that they just don't say anything or try anything aggressive and that leads to them not having anyone to trust or on the other hand they don't catch someone saying something inconsistent or fishy. I feel like villagers are too passive when it's all up to them to make the eliminators trip up. Obviously the lynch is the main way of gathering information on players, but if there's more than one way to figure out players alignments, I say go for it even if you do end up getting yourself killed every now and then. I think that's even more true in a QF, when the game goes really fast. The village needs to be extra aggressive imo. The problem with this logic is that the other elims would have known Lopen was inactive so one of them would have sent in the kill, so to me, this kind of feels like you're reaching to explain the non elim kill to lynch a villager. Also, as Araris pointed out, you agreed with him but didn't place a vote immediately, which could be you trying not to draw attention or be a part of a mislynch. For those reasons, I'm voting Itiah.
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Yup, you got it. Well, with the clarification from Straw, tied lynches are much less of a threat. On to the lynch! Player list: 1. Araris (Aralis) - I kinda want to vote on him for his vote on Drake, because I'm in favor of roleclaiming and he's voting on Drake for roleclaiming, but Araris has always been like that about PM's, so I can't say I genuinely think he's evil. 2. Elandera (Ela) - Ehh, I don't agree with her saying don't trust anyone until there are undeniable facts proving their innocence. There has to be some level of trust or we won't get anything done. I kinda think she was just being over dramatic though, so I'm not sure if I'm suspicious of her because of that. 3. xinoehp512 (Demmanu) - Poke voted Bort. Also, Bort isn't the only player who hasn't posted. My doppelganger has yet to show up and confuse everyone. 4. LopenTheTwoArmedHerdazian (Lopen) - Like I said, hasn't shown up. 5. Arraenae (Para Dere) - No read. Although if Stick is evil, she might be village? 6. I think I am here (Itiah III) - RP only so far. Might also be a new player? Idk, I haven't been around much lately. 7. Snipexe (Snip) - Has a lack of thoughts. Tbh, sounds like a villager. XD 8. Devotary of Spontaneity (Leidene Larabeck) - No read yet. 9. Cadmium Compounder (Artin Aldenadel) - Slight village read. His approach of "what the heck let's see what happens" is similar to how I play as a villager. 10. Alvron (Vron) - Neutral. I should remove my vote before something bad happens. 11. Gancho Libre (Rhawnie Mackahoe) - Newbie and only one post, so neutral. 12. Bort (Joe Bourbon) - hasn't posted yet, so neutral... 13. TheMightyLopen (Oplen) 14. Drake Marshall (Jay) - I'm guessing village. So far he's roleclaimed already and also proposed we tried to do a multi-lynch, both aggressive moves. Feels like he's not too worried about appearances. He also voted on himself to force himself to find a place to vote later, which would be cornering himself a little bit as an eliminator because he wouldn't be able to slip unnoticed if there's a controversial lynch or something. 15. _Stick_ (Straw Stick) - Can't really get a good read on her. She's posted a decent amount of times, which is good, but I find myself slightly suspicious for whatever reason. I get the feeling from her opinions that they're honest, but in an "this is hurtful to my team but I'll say it anyways to appear village" kinda way. I might be overthinking it though. Well, I don't really have any solid suspicions, so I guess I'll go with my hunch about Stick.
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I'm not completely against multiple lynches, I actually really like the idea and have used that mechanic in both games I've run I think, but it is dangerous to try because of vote manipulation. Normally I'd agree that claiming this early isn't a good idea, but this is a QF with possibly multiple kills happening every 24 hours, so I say better to make connections and try to figure out who's trying to figure stuff out than "waiting for more information."
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If you don't know I'm not gonna tell you.
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It feels like I haven't played SE in a while...I'm excited! I looked over the rules, and the only thing that really stuck out to me that I felt should be pointed out is that tied lynches result in multiple deaths(at least 2) and there is no minimum vote needed. If I was an eliminator, which I'm obviously not, I'd totally try to use that at some point to get multiple villagers killed. Especially if the elims have got some vote manipulation. So we need to be careful of that. Maybe try to always have a 3 vote lead on our lynches or something. I'll vote on Alvron, since he was clearly in favor of confusing the village before the game even started! Nevermind that I felt the same way...
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Hmmm, it might be confusing if I sign up for this game. Which means I'm definitely signing up! I'll be Oplen, a one-armed man who loves proving he's better than all the two-arms with his amazing acrobatics. To make voting less confusing, please just don't vote for meuse my RP name instead of my username.
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As the late Master Archivist, I think it's only right that I give my pass to the LG18/LG33 rerun! Looking forward to playing in this one, although I did enjoy co-GMing LG33 a ton. Any idea when this will be run?
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Long Game 44: Shadows of Elantris Redux
TheMightyLopen replied to Herowannabe's topic in Sanderson Elimination
It seems I was suspected quite a lot this game. I'm not sure why, really. It was very interesting seeing all of the behind-the-scenes stuff for this game. I was in on some of it, but there really was a lot of cool stuff going on besides the things I knew about. Well played Steel and Len, you guys were so close. And having both Lover pairs working with the Gyorn is something I did not see coming. Wilson had mentioned the fact that as a Lover she could win with the Gyorn, but I guess I didn't really consider the possibility of the Gyorn actually just straight up claiming to someone who wasn't technically part of his faction. Speaking of which, sorry again for revealing you and Len were Lovers Wilson. Thankfully you weren't killed(very kind of you Walin), but I'll still be more careful in the future. Turns out I was correct to be worried about the low amounts of votes on Len, because he was gonna try to get me lynched, but still, I could've pushed the lynch using other reasons. And to the Jeskeri, man, you guys really did have some bad luck this game. Part of it was the excellent scanning by Aman/Seonid, but still, the fact that Aman hit the one Jeskeri who had a Korathi Pendant with his Jeskeri Pendant was just rotten luck. Then the double protection of Wilson. That was pretty strange. Anyways, great game to everyone, and a big thank you to all of the GM's! Great job with the write-ups every Cycle! I really enjoyed playing, and as an added bonus, I actually survived for the first time in a while! Edit: @Cadmium Compounder, looks like we both tried to Inspire Drought to vote for different people, which is why it failed. xD I tried to make him vote on Walin and you tried to make him vote on King Cole.
