So Hi im new here first off i doubt there is still a need for spoilers? but this post has a few, so have some personal reading history! Always been a fan of wot since primary school and when BWS? took over felt I might as well read mistborn! I was actually pretty impressed with mistborn he took it way further then i expected him to at the start and a couple of twists i didnt even see coming! Later on i was looking for free books on my phone when i came accross WOK, which wasnt free but i couldnt help myself. After reading it, i read it again, then i went and got elantris, was so impressed i looked on the website and found warbreaker which was free and also the liar of partinel sample and the short stories ofc lol! (which was good cos i had just spent the last of my money on elantris hehe). Whilst looking about the site i somehow accidentally clicked on the site and have spent a little time browsing the forum now, the first thing i learnt was Hoid wasnt just his favorite name he liked to slip in books and alot of thoughts i had about these books came together lol, didnt actually think he would plan a whole little universe so after spending a few hours trying to make sense of what the forum was telling me (ye i didnt notice the pinned ones at the top which where somewhat more useful then some of the other threads i ended up reading! tho not more entertaining ofc). Then i decided to reread WOK and after a couple of chapters looking at it with new eyes had a couple of thoughts. If your still reading this now then there is a chance u might know some of the answers i dont and can explain things im unclear on! Would much appreciate it tho some of the things may already be answered elsewhere :/ Anyway hope you enjoyed my little story here is a couple of the thoughts i had! :
1. is cultivations pool in or near the purelake?
2.what kinda crazy oathpact is honour got himself into where his 10 favorite guys get tortured for thousands of years? and how come taln still came back even after honour has been dead for so long?
3. thunderclasts come from stone, is this why shins dont like stone? i mean i wouldnt wanna walk on stone if a thunderclast might happen to pull itself free right under me.
4.are dustbringers like anti knights radiant? just destorying stuff?
5. what happened to all those swords? where they left there just somewhere? can ppl pull them out? surely this woulda been noticed...
6. how come the shardplate the kalak was looking at didnt glow?
7.odium is clearly bound as well by the oathpact but when it was broken hasnt done anything, is it like limiting the number of forces he can use in their little fight or something? bit of a random guess there.
8. kalak uses the term east not stormward, and no spren are mentioned, is this important or is it just to ease the reader into it kinda thing?
9. same for spren none are mentioned and its a battle
10. why couldnt other honourable ppl just get told to come along grab the sword run off to get tortured and save the world? dalinars visions suggest the almighty was alive for some of them and most are a fair bit after the heralds so surely he was still around then?
11. is endowments focus colour?
12. szeth also names it east it could again be cos the reader doesnt know about storms and how important they are to the ppl of roshar but if its not for that (sometimes reading this makes me look too deeply into things because im sure he has a load of secrets i wont guess!) is it because shin dont really suffer from storms and the term east is perhaps a remnant of their cultural heritage?
13.i forget what jasnah is doing when gavilar is assassinated and cant remember if it is mentioned but why isnt she studying the parshendi? (i think it probably is but its alot of book to look thru and someone might remember!)
14.szeth thinks elhokars companions at this feast are unimportant, does this mean that really they are very important to any1 reading but not szeth? an azish with a pale patch of skin on his cheek is pretty distinctive, altho a nervous alethi isnt so much does any1 remember them showing up anywhere else in the book?
15. why is it profane to use stormlight for illumination but not for lashing stuff randomly?
16. parshendi have a tradition of a killer wearing white, This post has been reported for attempting to skirt the rules? they have traditions of sending killers? and are seriously honourable about it? judging from what we have seen about how they act they all seem to act in pretty much unison so what requires one to send a killer so often that they have a tradition about it?
17. why are there torches in the passageway to the kings chamber? there are stormlight lights all over the place but torches there? torches arent particularly pleasant anyway they give off less consistent light and smell bad!
18.i kinda think stormlight is a little like the dor, i mean come on, both are white.
the dor seems to be a shards power trapped (in shadesmar?) trying to get into the physical realm thru bridges and the like, whereas stormlight seems to be able to do similar things but isnt a huge force trying to push thru and is instead spread thinly accross the land with the storms every now and then, dunno just kinda rambling now ignore that bit!
19. are seons like nightblood? the whole type 4 thing? something that wasnt living given life and sentience? just made differently obviously, with aons not commands and are spren? the conscious sentient ones? they seem to have been around before the normal mindless bunch.
20. szeth claims stormlight can only be held for a few minutes yet when kaladin is climbing up the chasm wall (if i remember correctly) he goes 15 minutes holding his breathe with it, using the most stormlight consuming lashes, whereas szeth is surrounded by brightly glowing lamps and needs to refuel on a permanent basis. Can kaladin hold more because of his bond which has started with syl? or does he just have more? i would assume the lamps give more then his limited supply that is always being talked about? he appears to do ever better with it after saying the words, if he gets to full knight radiant will he be able to hold it in perfectly like said voidbringers?
21. This post has been reported for attempting to skirt the rules are voidbringers doing holding stormlight, just a myth gone wrong or do they really also hold stormlight? if they do is it just honours power or is it more then that?
22. szeths punishment demands voidbringers dont exsist but his honour demands they do, does this mean that he took up these powers because he believes they would return and is so punished for doing so by having to carry the shardblade and made lower then even a warrior until(unless) they do return?
23.how do the parshendi know what szeth was he doesnt seem like the type to let ppl know he is a shardbearer or did the parshendi jsut ask some really lucky questions? (ye i dont rly expect loads of answers)
24.szeth lashes himself to a distant point and that distant point becomes down, so he can lash himself like he can objects? this makes flying easy right? you literally just fall where u feel like falling...
25.things frost up when he uses stormlight, is this any relationship to the frostlands that used to be natanatan? it didnt seem like a cold place when dalinar went there (i think he went there :/) was that some massive use of power?
26. why do shardblades kill so weirdly? i mean the eyes appear to be important on roshar, seems that the power given by a shard shone thru their eyes so is there something significant about the fact the smoke burn then blacken? thats abit creepy.
27.is urithiru in the misten mountains? aimia jsut doesnt seem right :/
28. szeth seems to know what voidbringers look like...isnt this important? jasnah rly wants to know and szeth a truthless could just tell her :/ does that mean all the shin know? or just the religious parts, perhaps maybe jsut a myth i dunno.
29. ok this one is abit of a random one you may wanna just skip. I dont understand szeths comment, his lashings interfered with the gems that power the shardplate. I could understand if wearing shardplate would be annoying cos he couldnt lash himself (if that applies to oneself as it does to lashing other ppl in shardplate) but how do his lashing specifically interfere with the gems? I dont know if i look too much into BWS wording but i assume that if it was drawing in stormlight that drew in the gems in the shardplates and made it unusable he would have worded it differently, but i dont see how his lashings could interfere specifically with the gems :/ the windrunners knight radiants wear shardplate that glows and i would assume they wouldnt bother if it cancelled out their abilities, altho it stops glowing as soon as they take it off so perhaps the glow is from them and now the plate itself, but then where do they have the power to do that? they dont glow with stormlight as they walk off and dalinar doesnt seem to suck in stormlight to increase his plates function, is there other ways to power them?
30. dalinar glows when he goes to protect elhokar from the chasmfiend, he also moves faster then a man in shardplate should and stops a chasmfiend which has been noted for its size and ability to crush a man even in shardplate, it seems the shardplate gives dalinar extra strength and speed (when he was on his way to protect his brothers son and kingdom which he may or may not have sworn an vow to do, i cant remember, if he did then is it just because he wanted to protect or because he swore he would protect them and needed it to keep up his vow?) does any1 know anything more about what order he is aiming towards? and how come he gets visions now and not before, is it because he went abit honour crazy after gavilars death and only now is at the point where he is truly honourable enough to get these visions? why doesnt kaladin? whats special about dalinar how does it know he leads?
31. fabrials use stormlight and spren to work...do spren consume stormlight?
32. gavilar is useless, he gives away nothing baout anythingl....why did he have that sphere and how did he get it? why is it too late? obviously thats nothing to do with the sphere cos he is still worried about them getting it any1 know what plans he has set in motion whilst preparing for assassins for months? why are ghostbloods called ghostbloods, is there a reason for the name?
33. who got his shardblade, how come elhokar didnt?
34. talns scar in the sky sounds pretty suspiscious. but i guess stars can look like that.
35. axies(?) the collector has some weird magic, that doesnt seem related to the knights radiant or heralds in any way...whats he got?
36. ok this is alot on spren i dont rly get them
the spren he sees, i have the book on my phone so finding quotes and lines is hard so this is all from memory forgive me if i miss something about this one and get it all wrong. i assume it arrives precisely at that time because it has been recorded as doing so? how far can recording or measuring a spren really go? is it now stuck unable to go very far because it needs to get back to that spot every day or do spren travel in different ways? i mean when syl went to go look for that leaf she appeared to have to physically go out find one pick it up and carry it back? and considering its size it is possibly unique and somewhat sentient so does that not give it some measure of leeway? i mean if someone wrote down syl-ribbon of light whilst she was a ribbon of light would she be stuck that way? or have the ability to say no? other spren that dont seem conscious seem to appear and disappear whenever they like however it seems odd to imagine millions of all kinds of spren floating around invisible just looking for a fire to pop into sight around or some nice tune. but then how do they appear it the right times? are all spren that arent conscious like one type of spren that changes in accordance to nearby strong stimuli? or are they like manifestations of residue power that are created by strong stimuli and then fade away when it does? but then that doesnt rly explain fire i guess... could syl (as a spren) have her personality measured at like a grumpy time and be stuck as grumpy for the rest of her life? but then i guess that wouldnt be very specific.
spren arent affected by gravity and appear to have no mass but visually they are there somehow? whenever they wanna be? wind spren are said to be zipping infront of and behind the highstorms in the wind, but presumably they arent actually effected by the wind? how do they know its there and why do they want to go that way?
how is it they know what people are feeling...they react to strong emotions and can read minds right?does this mean some shards can read minds and some cant? nightblood can so can endowment also read minds? and I only read it quickly the once before i knew it rly was all one big universe but does he talk in the mind of drabs? vivenna might have been a drab at one point actually when he was speaking to her :/ cant remember but it would mean something if he could only talk to people with breathe! (which means they hold a part of endowment right?) maybe im just grasping at straws... :/
do spren speak in peoples minds? like syl doesnt have a voicebox, but does she ever actually speak to any1 but kaladin? i know she can become visible to them (btw selective invisibility thats quite an awesome power she has?) but does she ever actually talk to them or does she always jsut talk in kaladins head? and how come he knew the oaths? isnt that pretty big? what told him? did syl imprint it on his mind somehow? or something else?
larger spren can mimic voices This post has been reported for attempting to skirt the rules?
37.if the purelaker religion has any basis on roshar in the shards it suggests that shards cant read minds here.
which one do they now pretend to worship?
anyway ye thats my first few thoughts reading the intro bit think i got abit carried away with thinking but if u made it this im glad u paid attention to them! lol didnt realise it was all so big and my typing is pretty bad im sry im not overly big on caps or punctuation in all the right places and things... sry
oh right ye errr about the shin and knowing stuff, i reckon the stonewards and windrunners went mostly that way, would explain how he knows how to use it and maybe why stone shamans are called stone shamans.
oh and are chasmfiends related to the unmade?
one last thing, hoid or midius learnt lightweaving in a week to a skill level that he could converse with it? was i reading that wrong or has no1 else apparently ever figured out this lightweaving that seems to work in all worlds?
