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  1. Orlok Tsubodai
    Let him speak. Your claim, however, is entirely false. You claim to have been powerless, and regardless have presented no evidence of being capable of determining the future. You were nothing but lucky that your rash attack didn't cause serious harm to an entirely innocent individual.
  2. Orlok Tsubodai
    "Whether or not he was attempting to steal or not is an entirely moot point. You would have been quite permitted to defend your property, if you knew that that is what you were doing. As you have admitted, however, you acted with force, striking an individual, before learning that they sought to steal your property. My client may well be guilty of attempted theft, but that is a separate matter, and one which has no bearing on your defence. You did not strike out to defend your property. You struck out, and were fortuitous that in so doing, you defended your property. Call my client, please, although we may have to move the location of this trial to do so, but it will not clear you of assault. If you'd known that it was a robber, whoever they were, you could have legally defended your property, but to act in such a manner because you merely "sensed movement" represents clear and uncontroversial grounds for a charge of assault.
  3. Orlok Tsubodai
    "Requiem, you are an accused in an entirely separate case. You may certainly object, in your own case, which we shall come to, in due time. Silverlight legal precedent does not determine Unkalaki law, certainly, but this judge is not trying us under the jurisdiction of Unkalki, but as a seconded representative of Silverlight, where the requirement for a plaintiff to be in the spiritual realm has been deemed antiquated by the supreme court. Very well. It is therefore a simple matter to remove the charge of corruption/assuming the identity of a representative of Silverlight from Hooded Cloak, and bring a separate case against Phil shortly. Your Honour, we motion now that Requiem is silenced until the case against him begins. This is a serious breach of the integrity of the court." (OOC: Drake, this case isn't against you, and it surprises me that you're intervening in it. By all means, respond in the case against yourself, which I will type up shortly, and thank you for the clarity on Hooded Cloak/Remnant/Phil, but this is for Ecthelion to address.)
  4. Orlok Tsubodai
    Locke Tekiel laughed, briefly. What fool would interrupt a trial as a bystander? "Your honour, we would motion to hold Requiem in contempt of court for this unwarranted interruption. "Regardless, he is much mistaken. Although we are indeed under Unkalaki jurisdiction, Silverlight legal precedent extends the jurisdiction of local judges to cover cases occurring elsewhere, provided they are fully aware of the relevant case law and facts. "Our unauthorised objector raises the issue of a plaintiff representing Mr Vron, his being deceased. I would remind Mr Requiem that such a requirement is quite antiquated, and that we all stand here as living examples of why the simple matter of death no longer prevents an individual acting as their own plaintiff. "Mr Requiem also appears mistaken about the complaints brought forward. Mr Remnant certainly has not been charged with impersonation of a Silverlight official. Phil, Mr Hooded Cloak, on the other hand, has been. "Finally, our uninvited interrupter seems to believe that that his flawed and impermissible interjection, centred on points against the case made against Mr Hooded Cloak, requires the case against him to be dropped. The honourable justice must agree that there is no legal basis for such a farcical claim."
  5. Orlok Tsubodai
    I most certainly have not forgotten. I fully intend to charge Skai, Requiem, and Ecthelion himself, but will let the first charge be addressed now. (Also, that took a couple of hours, and I need a break before continuing onto the remaining charges.)
  6. Orlok Tsubodai
    Locke Tekiel, of noble lineage, and a greater command of loopholes than seems remotely reasonable, walked into the courtroom. "Vron vs God" seemed like an excellent case to begin his legal career, but as was proper, he must act for his client. Coincidentally, that was also a great deal more fun, and also just. "Lord Justice, of great honour and immeasurable wisdom," he began. "This court assembles today to consider the case of our great friend and noble ally, Mr, Red Facemask, an alias of Vron, against the Remnant of Dominion, "God". However, it has come to my attention that there remain a good number of unaddressed legal matters, and I now provide notice that we seek to try Mr Hooded Cloak on charges of assault with a deadly weapon and corruption; Requiem, on charges of assault and slander; and Ecthelion III on charges of libel. "Although the charges against the murderous Remnant are by far the most serious, I'll begin by presenting the evidence against Mr Hooded Cloak." He paused to gather his thoughts. "The first, and lesser charge, is for assault with a deadly weapon. It is indisputable that Mr Hooded Cloak kicked my client, our dearly departed and universally respected Mr, Red Facemask, in the face. He admits the assault himself:" "The relevant question, then, is whether the assault was warranted," Locke said. "Mr Hooded Cloak suggests that his action was warranted, as under Silverlight law, he claims that the theft of the essence marks would be a felony, and that he was entitled to defend his property. However:" "Here, Mr Hooded Cloak is clearly shown to have acted aggressively, with intent to cause harm without first observing who he was assaulting. To claim he was acting in defence of his property, when he knew not who he was attacking nor what they were doing, should hold no water. The defence requires the intention of the assault being the defence of property, which manifestly does not exist. It is likely that the defendant will seek to excuse his actions, arguing that he was seeking to harm a minion of Odium. In the eyes of the law, this defence, too, should be ruled invalid. Firstly, it is clearly fabrication. Mr Hooded Cloak had no grounds to believe that the movement was caused by a servant of Odium. He was, however, aware of the presence of a number of innocent spirits on the island, and after giving what would be widely accepted as incomplete advice, could reasonably expect one to return, to seek clarification. Further, even if Mr Hooded Cloak had some way to be certain that the movement was caused by a servant of Odium (which he manifestly didn't), the assault would still be unwarranted. Are we to treat all of Odium's servants as guilty of the crimes committed by Odium himself? Should we punish Mr Hooded Cloak's followers, Skai's followers, and Reqiem's followers for the crimes they have committed? Mr Hooded Cloak made a judgement he was not entitled to make, not representing the legal system of Silverlight in and of himself. "Additionally, we would like Mr Hooded Cloak to be found guilty of the higher crime, Assault with a Deadly Weapon." Locke smiled. He was fond of this particular argument. "Mr Hooded Cloak himself admits, in no uncertain terms, that he is capable of destruction on a truly vast scale:" "Through this, Mr Hooded Cloak makes apparent that he himself constitutes a deadly weapon. The assault was obviously made by Mr Hooded Cloak's person himself, being a kick, and so fulfils the requirements necessary for the elevation of this crime. "Sadly, though, it is apparent that this is not the sole crime Mr Hooded Cloak is guilty of committing," Locke continued. "Mr Hooded Cloak is also accused of impersonating a representative of the legal system of Silverlight, or of blatant abuse of a position as a representative of a the legal system of Silverlight. If Mr Hooded Cloak is a representative of the legal system of Silverlight, as has not been made apparent, he has acted in an entirely corrupt manner, and under SIlverlight law should have recused himself from a position of authority at a trial of anyone he knew. That he did not, despite being on trial himself represents the very highest order of abuse of his position, and under Silverlight law by default strips him of his position as a representative of their legal system. Unless Mr Hooded Cloak can prove that he did not take this action, this constitutes sufficient evidence to warrant conviction under corruption charges. "The following evidence demonstrates that Mr Hooded Cloak did indeed assume the authority of a judge in his own trial:" "If Mr Hooded Cloak is not a representative of the legal system of Silverlight, the same evidence makes apparent to all that he acted claiming to be a representative of the legal system of Silverlight. You will no doubt be aware that impersonation of such an official carries an automatic custodial sentence as punishment." Locke looked up from his notes. "Honourable Justice, the matter of Mr Hooded Cloak's guilt is uncontroversial. We seek compensation of one functioning essence mark, delivered promptly to Mr, Red Facemask, for the unwarranted assault with a deadly article, and suggest a custodial sentence of five years, stripped of all powers, for either the impersonation of a representative of the Silverlight legal system, or for the blatant corruption evident in his actions attempting to preside over his own trial. If the removal of his powers during the period of incarceration is impossible, we suggest a fine of 50 gold pieces, payable to the estate of Mr, Red Facemask, in lieu of imprisonment." Locke turned to Mr Hooded Cloak, and smiled, awaiting his response. @Ecthelion III @Alvron
  7. Orlok Tsubodai
    Highprince Locke Tekiel strode forward, and turned to address His assembled entourage. "Welcome, all. You do your families a great honour through presenting yourself in My service. I look forward to sending you all to die to further the position of my Noble House." Locke turned back, to face Brightness Kenara. "Thank you, Brightness, for marshalling these men on My behalf. You are dismissed. I'm sure my steward will have another task for you."
  8. Orlok Tsubodai
    Roadwalker, to allow my vote on Manukos to stand.
  9. Orlok Tsubodai
    Thinking that he is evil, his thoughts on other players are informative.
  10. Orlok Tsubodai
    I'm a little frustrated with a Manukos lynch. I've got a PM with him, and have thought him evil for a while, but it appears that he's been trying to learn, and I hoped to get useful information from him. Regardless, I can hardly lynch Alvron the same turn I sign up to represent him in court. Edit: poor internet, Clanky and Alv's above posts hadn't come through. Will consider whether I keep my vote on Manukos.
  11. Orlok Tsubodai
    I had almost nothing to do in the game after D1, and after N1 had arranged for Eponine to become my lover, too. The first 72 hours, and first 28 hours particularly, were a great deal of fun, but I couldn't do anything other than essentially spectate and try to lynch Joe every so often, for the rest of the game, which wasn't terribly fun.
  12. Orlok Tsubodai
    I was able to claim D1, without fear of being killed, as there was no one with a vested interest in my death. This allowed me to achieve my win condition of survival to the end of the game with very little risk. It also allowed Cosette and Eponine to find me, with no difficulty, as opposed to it taking Cosette an extended time to find me, and Eponine potentially never doing so, as would be the case if I couldn't claim. It also meant that I made contact with the Thief, and that Wilson would claim to me. Wilson claiming as Javert allowed me to verify Crimsn's claim, as they both corroborated Valjean (Joe)'s identity (Valjean starts the game knowing Cosette, and Javert starts the game knowing Valjean). By 28 hours into the game, Crimsn, El, Joe and I were most of the way to our win conditions, and we had a group PM with all six neutrals, so could act as a bloc, rather than being vulnerable as independent players.
  13. Orlok Tsubodai
    My concern is that your theory isn't really your theory, and that you sought to draw out players who didn't have spanreeds, believing that they may have different roles. I don't think that spanreed possession reflects on roles, and indeed, have evidence to the contrary, but think it a potential thought that you might have, making phishing a plausible thing to raise in this situation.
  14. Orlok Tsubodai
    Why are you wondering this, Drake? It seems to me to be fishing for roles, and I struggle to understand why you want to know this, as a villager.
  15. Orlok Tsubodai
    There will be a Quick Fix (a shorter game) sign ups thread going up either tonight or tomorrow morning, run by @Elbereth. The next Long Game will be up in a week or two. @little wilson, @Alvron, @Metacognition, pinging to speed up moving this into Q&A.
  16. Orlok Tsubodai
    Throw in help balancing my MR7 rerun, regardless of whether or not I successfully defend you in this trial, and you have a deal. So, why did Alv avoiding mention of his being evil make you believe that he was likely to be a villager? You still haven't explained this logical step, and as such, my vote remains on you. What has changed about that line of thought for your gut to sway? You haven't set out anything that provides reason for your gut position to have moved, so we can only presume that you dislike going against the momentum of a lynch. Why are you so worried about that?
  17. Orlok Tsubodai
    Would you explain it? It looks like you're quoting a post from Alvron about Alvron, which makes no sense. Why does that post mean you thought he was a villager? Two games in full, with the conditions I set out above, and my own profile from every game I've played that you have my profile written for, since AG3. I'm aware. I'm requesting that you do your utmost to procure me a Shard of Ambition as payment, and that you will owe me a Shard of Ambition as debt until you have procured one for me.
  18. Orlok Tsubodai
    Three profiles of my choice, from any game I name, delivered in full, in English, in written form, to me, in such a state that I will be capable of reading them, in full, at any time of my choosing, whenever I choose, as many times as I choose, if I win. As a fee for representing you, regardless of whether or not I win, a Shard of Ambition. @Roadwalker, you also said that you were believed Alv was village. Why was that? Why do you now omit him from your answer, when he's up for the lynch?
  19. Orlok Tsubodai
    What are you offering? You know well the services and items that might interest me.
  20. Orlok Tsubodai
    @Roadwalker, I still don't think you've answered my question about why you were convinced that Alv and I were good. Would you please do so? Roadwalker, to add a little encouragement to this. @Alvron, I'm quite happy to act as your lawyer. No hidden catches, and my word than I'll exploit loopholes to the very best of my abilities.
  21. Orlok Tsubodai
    That's not what she's referring to, Yitzi. There wasn't other blackmailing during the game, other than Araris' "blackmail", exploiting a loophole I left open in the promise I made Seonid. Wilson's comments referred to the apparent support for blackmail that occurred in this game, in the thread itself. Randuir, Elenion, and Drake were vocally supportive of blackmailing neutral players, and no opposition to this policy was made evident by anyone not involved in the situation, which indicated an agreement with the blackmail by the general player base. There were players who spoke out against it, which is reassuring, but these players happened to be neutral (primarily due to Hael's balancing, rather than their views being formed by their roles).
  22. Orlok Tsubodai
    @Yitzi2, I'll respond to the rest of your point when I have more time, but now would address your question to me in the LG35 conclusion thread, which I think lies at the heart of the issue. Whilst I, personally, do enjoy SE games being competitive, and am not terribly good at RP, I think the most important thing we should get out of a game is fun for all involved. That means an environment in which we tolerate, encourage and support playstyles that aren't "optimal", and that we should welcome players who are here for a less serious game of mafia than some of us, and help them enjoy themselves. There's far more to get out of a game than just winning. Having fun in an environment with friends, watching other people enjoy themselves, strange gambits, creating discussion, meeting new people, learning about how they think, and watching them grow. It would be immensely sad to lose all these to a competitive atmosphere and "optimum" play.
  23. Orlok Tsubodai
    Our actions this last cycle were certainly not intended to rub the villagers' loss in their face, but in an attempt to have some fun. I essentially achieved my win condition on D1, making contact with all other neutral players, and creating a neutral bloc, in the first 28 hours of the game, and revealing my role to the thread. There was very little else for me to do during the game, which then led to leaping on Wilson's idea, and running around with it. I'm not sure that it should be taken as rubbing anything in the village's face, though. We could have acted precisely as we did throughout most of the game, and caused confusion. Regardless, the key point is that our actions were never intended to cause anyone distress, and for that, I am sorry.
  24. Orlok Tsubodai
    @Yitzi2, some thoughts of my own in response: Firstly, I disagree vehemently that we should tell people how exactly to play, including planning particular play styles. There will be enough edge cases caught in it that it becomes really difficult to know where to draw the line. Better, I think, to expect everyone to behave as mature adults, and to censure individual players who do not behave in a sensible fashion. The forum is a blend of unique players, and everyone has their own way to have fun. If we ban one playstyle, it will become very easy to ban another. I can see Stink's for instance, coming under scrutiny, despite it being obvious to everyone that he's having fun. I'm not sure RP is the solution to players trying to achieve their win conditions by any means possible. It masks the issue, rather than solves it. Players here to have fun are here to play SE in a fun manner, not to RP whilst other people make the game itself less fun. We need an attitude change in the forum, and players accepting that we're not Mafia Universe, and are not here to mimic them, instead. I very much don't think that we should play the game around suboptimal players, rather than with them, which is the implication I get from your post. If we do that, we give the impression that we don't actually care for them as players, and that we are just interested in winning. Having been here now nearly 2.5 years, I've found far greater benefit and enjoyment from the forum's supportive nature, and the atmosphere, than from playing to win in ny individual game. I think here, we need to look at the implications of actions, rather than your idea. I'm in a rush, as is probably evident, but mayoring has a tangible decrease in autonomy, and so fun for all players, hence my disagreement with it. How would you feel if you played a game in which nothing you did mattered? Where you had to vote as you were told, act as you were told, and would die if you didn't? I certainly don't see how such a game would be fun for anyone in that situation. Further (hopefully better articulated) thoughts to follow, when I'm no longer already late for an engagement.
  25. Orlok Tsubodai
    [EPONINE (tending to Marius)] Every day you speak with lighter heart You speak with lighter heart Her spell is over [MARIUS] Every day, I wonder every day How could I see Cosette and yet not Eponine? [EPONINE] Don't think about it, Marius With all the years ahead of us I will never go away And we will be together every day Every day We'll remember this night And the vow that we make: A heart full of love My days full of you The words are old But always true Oh, Locke, for shame You did not even know her name [MARIUS] Dear Mademoiselle I was lost in her spell [EPONINE] A heart full of love No fear, no regret I saw you once and then I knew [JAVERT] She was never mine to keep She is youthful She is free [MARIUS] My Eponine! [EPONINE] I saw you pining and I knew. [JAVERT] Love is the garden of the young. [MARIUS] Waiting for you At your feet [EPONINE] At your call [JAVERT] Let it be Let it be. A heart full of love This I give you On this day [MARIUS & EPONINE] And it wasn't a dream Now we must kill Altea! More seriously, Crimsn, I think I can get behind a vote on The Flash, at least for now. (Credit to El for the parody, and apologies to Crimsn for implying that you're a witch. El can get jealous...)
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