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  1. phattemer
    Did you know that there is someone here by the name of Alvron? And welcome! I hope to see you in Sanderson Elimination, a sub forum under role-playing. Mid-range game 8'will be starting up pretty soon, once quick-fix game 9 is over. Sorry to overwhelm you with a list of terms, but it is very fun.
  2. phattemer
    So were we going to go for Joe, or not? I would say not, since Orlok didn't look like he was retracting anytime soon and also, doing so would have raised questions. I would be more inclined to think that the remaining 2-3 diagrammists are probably more inactive than the dead ones were. Does anyone have a player list? If not, I will make one. The Only Joe- Sani Peng the Just- Justin Mailliw- Madon Araris Valerian- Wol Phattemer- Seixa Emerald- Em C. Palah Idolevy- FindiltinFindilt Bridge Boy- I refuse. The stupidly long one. Twelthrootoftwo- Torren Kipper- Kip Sturm Clanky- Cla (thanks 12th) Adamir Jain Dowanx Eowyn Feligon For some reason, I think there are 11 people left, unless I'm confusing this with qf9 which I know has 11 people left. Well, 9 people voted last day, and 2 are now dead. This should be right. I think. Gawd, I hate trying to remember character names. Let me know if you see a problem, but this should help.
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    Awesome write-up, Macen! I really liked it! I have some things I want to say, but unfortunately they could help the diagrammists should they not have thought of them yet. I guess I will just wait.
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    Awesome people. I see what you did there...
  5. phattemer
    I think that at this point, it would probably be a good idea to lynch inactives. Of course, this is night, but next turn we could discuss it more. Assuming that no KRs have squired diagrammists, then we can probably win. So far we have killed 3, right? Hero, Orlok, and Ren. So 2 of their knights and one squire. They'll probably have an Elsecaller squire, and maybe 2 other regular. If the Elsecaller could make 2 squires, or if the windrunner could, they might only have 5 though. Does anyone have a current player list?
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    So there should be a highstorm next turn, anyone got plans for that?
  7. phattemer
    Oh, didn't realize I came off that way. While I certainly wouldn't mind not being lynched, and would rather that I wasn't (), my posts were mostly meant to try to get you all to consider what I was saying after my lynch. I would only consider it a death, per se, if I was forgotten as well.
  8. phattemer
    You'll have plenty of time once I'm dead! It isn't really a bandwagon since if you and Lopen changed your votes I would be fine. But also why would I be suspicious? I myself say that if Wyrm is innocent then I ought to be lynched. A 1 for 1 trade would be bad for the eliminators; even if it was for Wyrm.
  9. phattemer
    I would say again that tomorrow you really should lynch at least one of the three, since, in the words of Shai: "It was a Forgery of tone." I think that I can tell when a post is planned rather than when it is spontaneous, and too many of those there's posts seemed planned.
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    You know, I see a whole lot more evidence for Orlok than for Clanky. The only reason is voted for him was because of something I didn't want public, and now he's getting lynched? I didn't want that, and don't particularly think he's a diagrammist. Because of that, I'll be voting for Orlok.
  11. phattemer
    It's just /color inside the second brackets, Joe. Or they haven't because he IS a rebel. Seriously though, after I am lynched or give up my breath, make sure you test my theory, k? On Vauhsoj or Bort if you don't want to kill Wyrm, at least.
  12. phattemer
    OOoooh!
  13. phattemer
    Well, seeing as I had planned to save the lynch target it doesn't really matter if I am lynched. However, once I am shown to be innocent I do hope you will try one of my targets.
  14. phattemer
    Well, my suggestion is that we lynch either Wyrm or myself today. Upon finding that the lynched is innocent, we could get the other, but of course if the lynched is guilty there'd be no need. If we don't lynch me or one of my suspects I will probably give up my breath, as someone stated above, to proof my village-ness and hopefully get a lynch going on at least one of my suspects. That is, I'd give up my breath to save the lynch target assuming it's not who I think it should be. Of course, since y'all think I'm an eliminator that is great for you! Either way, this is good, since on the one way I'll prove that I'm a Returned and on the other hand another Rebel will die.
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    Well, that's reasonable. How about this: So I proposed a set of Eliminatora that included him, and although that could make him not trust me I don't really see why it requires that much of a reaction. I did say that we should try one, but that if they were innocent I'd probably be next. My point is that he doesn't really need to defend himself unless he knows that both himself and one of the others is guilty. Maybe he just wanted to anyway, but if I were a villager in that situation, then I would probably just have the lynch on one of the other people go through. Since he didn't, that implies that he trusts both Bort and Vauhsoj, and given that PMs are nonexistent, the only way he could do THAT is though a doc. As to why he should not distrust me? Well, I proposed a plan that, if it doesn't get at least one Eliminator, will certainly get me killed. Seeing as the ratio of villagers to eliminators is not yet that in which a 1 for 1 trade is useful, I am not an eliminator
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    If someone else agrees with me about Wyrm, then I'm fine with testing him. Mailliw, you should definitely lynch me if Wyrm isn't one.
  17. phattemer
    I realize that my analysis doesn't show everything, but would I really be pushing this hard for it if I was an eliminator? (Yes I know that is faulty logic but whatever.) I suggest we at least try one of my suspects: Vauhsoj, Bort, or Wyrm. I agreed that I didn't want to lose Wyrm if he was a villager, so I suggested Bort since he was more linked to the others. Also, I don't quite understand why Wyrm is being so defensive about this. I freely admit that if one is wrong, they're probably all wrong, and seeing as he wasn't the one I suggested to test, there is no reason for him to argue against it unless he knew the other person's faction. And there's only one way to do that. These reactions have cemented my theory and I will again be voting for Bort. Now to respond to the previous posts regarding me: Raven: Yes, Wyrm said I was an eliminator. But where is his evidence? I see none. Haelberde was on right when I was about ~4 hours(I think) before the cycle ended. I hoped that he would agree with me and place another vote on Bort. Adamir: That is a TERRIBLE idea. Of the remaining active people, probably we have three Eliminators! Asking people to post a list is just asking for an Eliminator to get your breath; possibly even making the lynch useless! And of course my list: Phattemer, Sir Jerric, and Raven. Wyrm and Bort both wanted a response, so here you go. Also, if I'm wrong about this, then I'd be pretty useless to the village, so if we do decide to hit one of the three and they're innocent, feel free to get me next. People left: Orlok: has been pretty active. Assuming my choices are correct, he'll be taken out in a bit. Probably not this cycle because of the implications for the identity of the Rebels. Bort: Been there, analyzed that. Adamir: about to kill himself. Don't do it, it just takes out another villager. In actives still count for outnumbering purposes. Alvron: I don't think he's been on that much, or if he has then I didn't notice. Jerric: seems to be agreeing with the eliminators. Of course, he is pretty logical about it. Jain: he's been poked a lot, and hasn't been posting much. Vauhsoj: surprisingly inactive. Raven: Has a lot of ties with the Eliminators(the RP with Bort, they keep agreeing with Wyrm). They are a likely target for today's kill, probably to deflect attention. Mailliw:I believe he said he had some RL stuff. Joe: he was on a lot earlier, but not so much now. Lopen: Not on a ton, but enough to read through. Didn't agree with me. (Humph)
  18. phattemer
    I knew that. I'll (un)fortunately for (y'all) me be asleep for the rest of the cycle, so I'll just add that once I'm killed this cycle which I will almost certainly be, since I put forward a list of suspicions and that is always a great opportunity or very dangerous for the eliminators you should try lynching at least one of my candidates.
  19. phattemer
    Ok, ok! New public action: Action 2: Try for an heir
  20. phattemer
    Is Kas? Oh Lopen, (Kas?) can you please my read my analysis if you have time and tell me whether you agree? Oh, and Wyrm too.
  21. phattemer
    Yeah, I'll probably leave my vote where it is, and hopefully others will join me if they read my analysis and your response. Is Haelberde playing?
  22. phattemer
    Yeah. That diction was probably a trifle strong.i wasn't suspicious because of the RP, though. It's entirely possible that you're innocent, however, without roles there isn't that much backlash if you are and you're killed, and if you are indeed, then my whole analysis is wrong so it would be good to know anyway. Besides, right now we're lynching Adamir. Why Adamir?
  23. phattemer
    I don't have any real suspicions, but it seems to me that the people who are posting a lot/trying to get people to sort of follow them are usually at least partly Eliminators. If I had to guess the rest of the Eliminators right now, I'd say some very active people and probably someone who both or either has softly accused. I'm reading through today at the moment and will be right back... People who have posted today are: (in no particular order) Me (this) Wyrm RP and poked Vauhsoj, which was immediately retracted after Vauhsoj explained. Orlok is wary of Wyrm, and voted for Venture Mistborn Joe wants to know why Venture voted for Jain Alvron is tired and votes for Adamir since he voted for Shallan Vauhsoj explains his votes of last cycle on pokes Shar(who is Shar, anyway?) I don't know why. But this post just sounds like it was planned. If you'll read it for yourself, you might find the same. It seems like multiple people contributes and it was carefully worded to sound the way it does. Maybe that's just me I don't know. Raven pokes Jain, no response, when Venture adds 1 to Jain they vote for him. Sir Jerric responds to allegations from last cycle, and pokes Alvron. Retracts eventually, and posts a nice analysis. Lopen. (A response, and nothing more) Venture (very short, only a vote) Bort pokes Orlok, lots of RP People who seem to be on the same team: A: Wyrm poke voted and retracted on Vauhsoj Vauhsoj Bort (voted Orlok and never retracted, while Orlok is wary of Wyrm) B: Joe Orlok All 3 want more from Venture (though to be fair, so do I and probably about everyone) Raven People who seem to be against each other: Orlok v. Wyrm Orlok v. Bort Many v. Venture Now, reading through this, you probably notice the same 3 names coming up again and again(or it seems like that to me) I think the Eliminators used to have 4 members, and the remaining ones are Wyrm, Bort, and Vauhsoj. I started thinking about it back in cycle 1 with meta's plan and suspected Wyrm then. Since, I reread through again and looking at the posts, those 2 seem the most aligned. Unfortunately I can't get much information from Shallan's posts since they are basically nonexistent. Points: cycle 1: Bort pokes Vauhsoj. Wyrm argues against Meta's plan, then once seeing he's probably wrong, abandons his arguments so as not to seem not for the village. Other events include: Bort asking about the WGG, Vauhsoj saying he might be inactive, and Vauhsoj doing a poke vote. Cycle 2: Wyrm seems to be controlling discussion, Bort pokes Wyrm(quickly removed of course), and accuses Smart Guy and Jerric of taking turns looking at the thread(pretty ridiculous). Vauhsoj pokes me, removed once he sees a bandwagon trundling by, (on smart guy). I express suspicion of Wyrm. (Proof I'm not making all this up now.) Bort defends his theory of tag-team eliminators from Jerric. Wyrm pokes Orlok (again). And Bort has more RP. Together, I think this is at least a semi-conclusive case for the guilt of 1, 2, or even all 3 of Bort, Wyrm, and Vauhsoj.(I am more uncertain about Vauhsoj. Never played with him before, and less evidence.) I wouldn't want to lose Wyrm as a villager, and since I am uncertain about Vauhsoj I will go with Bort.
  24. phattemer
    I mean, I didn't mention it in the PM either.
  25. phattemer
    Awwww
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