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See, this is why I love this site. I completely missed that bit about Dawnslight's powers starting immediately in Manhattan. I don't know why everybody wouldn't already know about the glowing paint (and fruit). If the house Regalia was using was the one that Dawnslight's parents had lived in, though (and, obviously, Dawnslight himself), then it would be pretty straightforward to see why nobody had been able to pick him out as the epic in that first year, when he was essentially just a person who had been comatose their whole life in a random house in New Jersey.

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I think Dawnslight would have been much easier to overlook in the early days. I mean, an epic who's in a coma in real life, and who doesn't really manifest his powers (as far as we know) until after Regalia has sunk Manhattan? No one would have a reason to particularly notice him. EDIT: Whoops, sorry for the double-post.

Didn't one of David's "memories of the old days" say that when Calamity first came to Earth, he was so bright that he cast a reddish pall over everything on the planet? With that kind of brightness, I'd imagine that seeing small details would be problematic.

This is true, but not in the way that most people think. If you read a Brandon Sanderson novel to your plants, they will grow extremely slowly for about 6 months, then one day you will wake up and see that they've turned into a fully-grown mature plant overnight.

See, the problem with the Stormlight Archive TV series is that you'd at least have to wait until the first 5 books are done. We've seen that the first two books jump around the timeline a pretty good bit, and they do have some overlapping scenes, too (or, at least, certain scenes in WoR reveal more about what happened in scenes we initially saw in WoK). This kind of will probably continue throughout the first 5 books, and then there will be about a 15-year break until the second 5 books pick up. So, you'd have to wait until at least the first 5 books are done, so you'd have a (more or less) complete picture of that particular time.

I don't think Obliteration is any more sane than any other High Epic. I do think, however, that the Bible quoting thing will have something to do with his weakness. Not sure what direction it'll take, though.

I think it makes more sense for Dawnslight to have been created by the same power that created Calamity (or, if they're from an alternate reality, for them both to have been originally from the alternate reality). Dawnslight is basically the exact opposite of every epic we've seen so far in terms of how he interacts with the world around him. I don't think Calamity would have intentionally created him unless he was Calamity's first attempt to create an epic, and Calamity screwed up so badly that he was actually the cause of Dawnslight's coma.

I did a cursory search of the forum and didn't see any discussion of this, so I figured I'd bring it up. I only really "got" the concept of shardpools since I started reading the 17th Shard site regularly, and that was after I'd read Warbreaker. But I was thinking a little more about the Warbreaker universe recently, and it occurred to me: Ichor-alcohol was some mysterious substance that was "discovered" by Yesteel. Could it be that ichor-alcohol is some of the liquid from Endowment's shardpool? I'm initially skeptical of this possibility, since it seems that ichor-alcohol is pretty readily available (i.e. not rare) in Hallandren. But if it's only available in Hallandren and nowhere else, it could still be relatively rare as it relates to all of Nalthis. Or, possibly, the "more potent" ichor-alcohol that Vasher says Yesteel has discovered could be some of the liquid from Endowment's shardpool, if it's more rare. Or it could be that the original ichor-alcohol is a diluted portion of the shardpool liquid and the "more potent" version is simply less diluted. Just something I've been tossing around in my mind. I don't know if it makes sense or not.

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Ok, then! Smart girl with a drinking problem.

Brandon Sanderson actually invented the perfect magic system a really long time ago, but we just call it "the laws of physics."

Regalia said that Calamity promised that David's powers would be "thematically appropriate."

Well, Regalia was not a High Epic (as Tia specifically stated in the book), so her weakness didn't matter. Her powers were not protective or preventative of death, so you could just shoot her and she'd die. Or, you know, slice her up with a sword. EDIT: Tia stated it, not Prof. Also, it depends on whose definition you use as to whether or not she was a "High Epic." The lorists seem to only call epics "High Epics" if they have what David would call "prime invincibility." Either way, though, the point is if you could just find her body, you could kill her using any method that would kill a non-epic.

I just finished the book about 30 minutes ago, so I'm still not sure where I stand on the "Is David an Epic or not" question. I can see it both ways, and I'm not sure which I want to be true. If David is an epic, I think his powers are not stealing other Epic's powers, but rather being able to detect Epics and also being able to manipulate other people's emotions. (So, in other words, he can do things both a seeker and a soother can do. And what about working the sypril so well? Coinshotting, anyone? OMG DAVID'S A MISTBORN!!) But I think it's just as likely that David is an idealistic kid who's working his butt off as a Reckoner, and that devotion and work ethic makes people respect him. And the fact that he had studied epics so intensely for the better part of a decade means that he just inately knows what to look for in an epic's mannerisms, so he can usually figure out who the (non-camouflaged) epics are. I can see it either way, and I can't wait to see how it all works out in Calamity.

Yeah, Obliteration definitely didn't get... um, obliterated. As DataLore said, he touched David and thanked him before teleporting away, and it was that touch that burned David. We definitely haven't seen the last of Obliteration, I'd imagine.

Wow, Nightblood feeding on Stormlight! That's gonna get... messy.

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There's nothing wrong with starting with WoK, but if you're brand new to the Cosmere, I'd recommend starting with Mistborn or Warbreaker first. It might ease you into the world a little more easily.

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Yes, it's a reference to the Mistborn stories, where a hemalurgic spike is sometimes... ahem... "cleverly" hidden or otherwise placed surreptitiously so Ruin can get to them.

Indeed there is... in this forum post. It's tied to the number of upvotes you get. As for favorite story, I'd have a hard time nailing down just one. I'd say probably settle on WoR as my favorite novel, and Defending Elysium as my favorite short story (even though it's non-Cosmere).