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Well, surgebinding comes from spren of the cognitive realm. It would seemingly depend on what you believe. Kaladin believes he is a Radiant and Windrunner. To me that means either he or Syl is likely the source of that glyph's idea.
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Just Wayne himself would be the perfect worldhopper. Better than a kandra, even. Sure, it might be hard to keep him on task but if you give him a passion project then it might solve that. Also, I'm not really sure how much the Shard cares about certain powers. They seem to be able to grant at least long lives to worldhoppers. Other abilities may be possible.
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I do not recall any mention of him wearing a hat.
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Right now the Radiants we have seen are in Alethkar and Azir but we have more to meet. Ym was Iriali. The quotes above connect them to all races. Do you mean that because we have seen surgebinders in those places that their armies would side with the Radiants or do you mean that Radiants will only come from those nations? I am confused. Do we know anything about Tukar? But anyway, Tukar is already at war with Emul. If he has power, it is likely otherwise engaged at the moment. You forget. The Diagram is about planning. Taravangian won Jah Kaved without a single sword or spear. His plan is not about fighting (even if a lot of deaths are involved). It is about being secretive and obtaining power through manipulation of others. Dalinar blesses him and thinks he plans to bring peace to Jah Kaved. Right now the Radiants do not oppose him. Also, we do not know the true size of the Diagram. There could be sleepers like Graves all over the place just waiting for orders.
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I believe that Shallan may have mentioned that she believed that. Also, the Ghostbloods found that secret hideout with a basement that was already present. Seems to confirm that something was there.
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Nightwatcher Boon/Bane (Game)
nervousnerd replied to killersquirrel59's topic in Forum Games & Random Stuff
You get an electric toothbrush that will never run out of battery. It is sort of both a boon and a bane because you got what you wanted but not in the right way? Right? I wish for complete knowledge of the Cosmere. -
I agree. But also, look at the center of the WIndrunner glyph. That looks sword like to me.
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I could understand them getting corrupt and this causing their spren to die but that would not be something that could happen all at once. It would be a slow trickle until there were none left. That is not what we saw. Whole orders where every member at the exact same time fell? That is not just something that happened. I agree with @hwiles that it was a conscious decision. It could have been a corrupt decision but I really think they did it for what could be considered a good reason because: They did it publicly and in a way that they likely knew would make people hate them. These were also some of the best fighters of the time. I think if they wanted to, they could have defended themselves from an assault.
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They may have become more corrupt over time but that does not explain the Recreance in my opinion. Corrupt people generally do not give up their power but rather hoard and abuse it. Who forced them to give it up? Do you mean that they saw their organization becoming more corrupt and decided as a group that the world would be better of without them?
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While I believe some Stone Shamans knew Szeth was right and made him Thuthless anyway (whether from fear or nefarious reasons), I'm not sure I believe this. They likely have the power to do it but I see no reason that what we see us not the truth of it (even if Brandon calls him 'Taln'). Returning from death and "Damnation" seems just as likely to cause condensation to me (do they get tortured in the spiritual realm?).
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Huh. I missed that one. Since Adolin is describing this one instead of Kaladin, I wonder if it is the same one. Different perspectives and all. I can sort of see the WIndrunner glyph described as both. Not sure.
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When Kaladin achieved the Third Ideal, a glyph appeared. Is it known what this glyph was? Was this the glyph for the Windrunners? I suppose that could be shaped like wings since there are stylistic choices available with glyphs to make them appear differently.
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But Graves' interests were killing Elhokar. As hobbies go, that is a little destructive. I mean, it is fine to let them have their own lives in between secret missions but your secret identity is supposed to be innocuous. I don't think you can be a secret agent in one life and then a secret assassin in another.
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Even if not, it is possible that there is a way to cut spheres to better allow them to retain stormlight. So much was lost in the desolations. There has to be some way to build up stockpiles of the stuff. The storms give it freely. As Shallan said, stormlight is going to become a very valuable resource in the future.
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Yeah. It may have been accidental. By joining the fight in a way that mimicked the Heralds, they may have also joined the Oathpact in some way. Unfortunately, they probably do not have the same ability to return for the next desolation if they die. Also, something else that bothers me about the Diagram is Graves' mention that "We’re allowed to pursue our own interests and goals until we’re called up." I mean that just strikes me as stupid. Are they all working towards what they believe will fulfill the Diagram instead of working as a group? Why would this be allowed?
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I really think we did see his return though. We may not have seen him appear like we did with Jasnah but it may have been different than Elsecalling. My reasoning for this is that Taln actually seemed to be trying to raise the alarm himself. After this, he does not seem to have the energy to do much more than repeat himself. I had another thought. Szeth recognized Nale. Might he have been involved in a similar way to what you mention? This could definitely be a possibility.
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Certainly one possibility but I thought that, in regard to the Radiants at least, the main cost is them having to be broken before being able to use the magic. Now that itself could be a problem for possible Knights who do not see themselves as broken (Shallan and Kaladin are not of this group) but I don't think this would be the earth shattering secret we await.
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The Ghostbloods could be interesting. But I am not yet convinced of their actual power or even really the size of their membership. While it may be that the majority of their members are hidden in plain sight, I agree that we do not know enough to decide if they are a player. Shallan may tip this balance in one way or another though depending on her actions. The Sons of Honor are another story though. Yes they have high profile members. Yes they seem to have access to information not many others do. But I honestly think they do not know what they are doing. This may change if they are able to use Taln in any way but I could honestly see him wiping them all out if he understood that they were trying to return the voidbringers in order to return the Heralds. I agree. Although, I have wondered why his smartest self would not find a use for the Radiants instead of (or at least before) trying to destroy them. I suppose that his methods might not allow many to achieve their Ideals if they openly served him but maybe if he influenced them in less obvious ways. Maybe it was seen as too dangerous or maybe we just haven't seen this part of the Diagram yet.
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From the end of WOR, it seems we have two groups who are or will grow to be the main powers on Roshar: the Taravangian led Diagram; and the Dalinar led Radiants (I know that he does not truly lead them but he is the closest that they have right now). While I am sure other groups will come into play, I am not sure that they will be able to match these groups easily. What I want to discuss is the different plans for weathering the coming storm. It seems to me that the Radiant strategy will rely more around fighting their way through the desolation. I know many orders were not necessarily fighters (although they all seem to possibly get a shardblade anyway) but in my mind, the strategy is more directly confrontational. They want to protect as many people as they can while also fighting back against the voidbringers. This is what they have done in the past but never without the Heralds. It may not work well to use this same strategy, with or without them. Taravangian, on the other hand, seems to be more about survival by any means. This may be what is required to make it past the desolation this time but one wonders at the cost. It seems to me (from the quote above) that he believes as long as enough of humanity survives to allow them to repopulate, he has done his job. But this may even mean sacrificing all other humans besides this necessary seed population. The Diagram would likely see no difference between using all remaining humans to fight/protect this seed or slitting their throats themselves as long as it served their ultimate goal. Obviously, I am somewhat skeptical of the morality of the Diagram. Like I said, it may offer the best hope for Roshar but the sacrifices of the innocent that it could allow makes me wonder. I am also somewhat biased towards the glory of Radiant battles (how Alethi of me). But I do know that the Radiants will have to be and do more than they have in the past if the hope to actually make it through this fight. What do you guys think?
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But as was mentioned, this was after he had to kill so many people. He started to hate them for not being strong enough to stop him. He needed a way to justify his killing in his mind so as to not go completely crazy. It may even be possible that he is broken enough to be a Radiant now (not sure I believe that, or if he is even too broken now) but I think he was just a regular man before he became Truthless. I suppose it could be that his people are like Rock and able to see spren; specifically those red voidspren.
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That would also be honorable, I suppose. Especially if they knew what he did on Sel. It makes me wonder how Odium chose his victims. Did he know that he would be able to shatter some more easily than others? Did he know Cultivation would not truly be able to help in the fight?
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What did Szeth see that caused him to raise the alarm? This quote seems to say that it was more related to the Voidbringers than surgebinding. I really don't think he had any surgebinding before the honorblade.
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I have also struggled with Lift. But I think it is mostly that when we are away from the main conflict, I find myself just wanting to get back to it. I think she will be an interesting character though. This is especially true since Edgedancers were the most "articulate and refined" of the orders. I think their spren change them and I hope her boon does not stop this change. The possibly of an articulate and refined thief interests me.
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Lighteyes origin? [Mistborn spoilers]
nervousnerd replied to VinKohlin's topic in Stormlight Archive
I saw this quote. It seems to indicate that I was wrong about many Radiants returning home after laying down arms as well. -
Hmm. How would that even work? I mean, yeah the size alone would be hard but shelled creatures generally don't have any bones due to their exoskeleton being used to support their bodies.
