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  1. Kasimir
    Congrats, I believe in you, Holy Ruin, Destroyer of Worlds and Elims! Enjoy lunch! Edited to add: Is there anyone who can run a Python script at rollover? Don't plan to be up for it, have been more effective at fixing Tallybot than I expected. Should not be an issue, just run it, I don't think it needs more edits though I've had an interesting half hour trying to make it recognise Arasis and Ararsis, as well as any votes for Cash actually being for Cash rather than Ash (almost made me want to ensure Cash was exed, there.) To be clear, asking just from the perspective of giving the count since I think it can be pretty stressful for the GM to make sure.
  2. Kasimir
    No - Light Village, Null+, Null. Ideally I should be able to differentiate between nulls and suspicious people but unfortunately it's just a load of 'syakomon (null) people delenda est' at the moment. Look. If people feel I'm too heavy on the negativity right now, I can just leave my vote parked and go code/fix Tallybot to get zen. Because quite frankly I wanna be useful while I can still be, if there's productive discussion and whatnot happening with voting and converging, but I also really, deeply hate myself over how much backlog there is and am disgusted at my inability to be as read up and contemporary as I wanna be. Edited to add: Yes, I've swapped to a mild positive read of JNV - I feel that E!them usually votes before dipping, which is not what happened C1. It's not strong but that and re-reading their posts and C1 and I guess I don't feel the dissonance as strongly as I did last cycle so I'm willing to run with it.
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    I'm not willing to vote on anyone not in Syakomon. C1 mercy has expired. Now I just want people in nulls or sus dead.
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    I am really, really, really understanding how Orlok felt in MR56/any bloody game we were yelling at him to just get contemporary now and I don't understand when I became such a stick-in-the-mud because it's deeply frustrating to look at these things without assimilating the framework properly at nearly 0230hrs. Is there a point to me saying this? IDK. Empathy comes late I guess. I really, really hate doing this knowing I need to dot the is and cross the ts and it is Not Getting Done Reads List For Now, FML If It Changes Even Though It Should: : Devo, Aeo, Aman, Neil : JNV, TKN???, Coffee : Alpha, Ash, Wiz, Araris, Cash Annoyed by the fact everyone in Syakomon just feels meh to me. Ash is sort of just there and I get he's busy, but that's not something I can do much about. Similar deal for Alpha. Unless I want to commit to going after two dedicated inactives, it's in <Wiz, Araris, Cash> for me at the moment. K. I wanna go read LG93 if I've some time. My impulse is to say that E!Wiz should be indifferent between Aeo and Archer but I know he pulled that crem before in that LG and I wanna go see what's what before finalising where I'm gonna be. Re-emphasising that the fact the Ravenclaw issue took so long to surface implies V!Devo to me, especially if any theory of Ravenclaw's death involves Ravenclaw's voting. Edited to add: Kinda feels like you don't really think E!Wiz but still wanna vote them?
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    This entire cycle has been flashbacks to you yelling at Orlok to just get contemporary and backread later and I guess that's what I'm gonna do. No specific case for me; just vibes and wanted to pressure him tbh. I do think stable votes are more likely and I don't buy all Elims were inactive. Looking at the high D1 train stability and who our EoD hoppers were, feel Elims either stayed put or did not vote. Cash is one of the stable candidates, mostly. ...I need to nail down the rest of my readslist.
  6. Kasimir
    No worries Mr GM sir. If I have the time, I'll work on updating Tallybot. Can't do it right now but it might help you doublecheck even if I'm running it from the dead doc Unfortunately it's Ookla season so coding it might take a little longer and it's not my priority this cycle. I'll try to manually check the vc as well for now. Dude. The GM has you as voting on Devo. You sure about that?
  7. Kasimir
    I DON'T THINK YOU'RE EVIL ANYWAY WHY ARE YOU DEFENDING FOR CHRIST'S SAKE I SWEAR MY LONGPOST KEEPS SAYING I THINK YOU ARE TOWN W H Y ._. IDGI ._.
  8. Kasimir
    Why would he rush to tie if you know you are V and Archer flipped V? More reasonable to go with what it says on the tin, that he thought he could kill Archer. Unlikely you'll be thrown out. Most intuitive solution is to houserule that Archer was selected by RNG, congratulations, RNGesus moves in mysterious ways, sometimes by collective error, next? Yeah but this really makes Devo look more V to me - I can't see this happening lol. I just can't. It's wild Devo noticed but never really banged on about it and I'm the first one to notice this close to EoD. It's the self-vote over Ash I'm commenting on. Defend him sure. Ask us to exe you over him, why. Abyss, I do not want. Yeah ngl just gonna townlean for this I give up. I'm not saying you communicate with Wiz. I'm saying if teamed with Devo, Wiz should be aware of this. I'm also questioning if Wiz's hasty move was precisely to defend you because teamed and you were away. That's the usual thing you ask wrt vote analysis. I don't buy it but as you can tell, it's a play by play analysis with a running line of my thoughts rather than a coherent big picture. In that moment, that's the question I'd ask. Thank u now keep looking at QF69 everytime you feel this urge, thank you
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    I don't expect anyone to tbh. I've brought the questions out mostly. 90% of it is personal working for myself to bring myself up to speed and engage properly with the game. Define avoided completely? Why.
  10. Kasimir
    Day One 1. Game Notes: Observations Treat these things as just stream-of-consciousness: I'm noting down things I don't necessarily want to forget, even if I think that they might not make sense. They're just 'thoughts as they occur to me while backreading.' 2. Vote Analysis [RAW] Again, personal working. Don't open unless you want to drown. This won't be cleaned up, this is for my own benefit. 3. Vote Analysis [Thoughts and Credences] 4. Night Kill Analysis: Ravenclaw Edition I'm very sorry to be so late, as it were, to get fully contemporary. RL side has been rough for me. However, here I am at last, and as they say, better Nate than lever. I'm not inclined to do this for every cycle, mind. Pareto principle/best effort basis. I will add however that my main takeaways have been several questions: @Ookla the Raveness - I'd like to hear more about this crack Archer/Aeo E/E theory that had you leaping to kill Archer. Moreover, if this was such a bad theory, what's your view about the fact you think your Araris theory now feels the same? @Devotary of Spontaneity - Any reason for not going for Ash instead? Is there a reason you didn't want to leave it to a tie to see who'd break it, as you sometimes like to do? @Ookla the Rich - Apologies if I missed a post while backreading. What's your take on Aeo now? @neil the beguiled - Why approach Raven and Aman specifically? @Amanuensis - Any idea who else was on at EoD? @Ookla the Resolute - If you've answered and I've missed this, my bad: why were your preferred CWs at EoD Archer and Devo? I have reads to finalise/do but I'll do them later as this post is already terribly long. My apologies to Orlok for being exkasperated with you. I think I understand your pain now.
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    Fair my dude, RL first Side-thing I wanted to hop on: Devo is the only one who noticed. Neither Wiz, Neil, nor Aman seem to realise that there is a tie. Likely not teamed. With Devo noticing and Mat not noticing, I'm considering if this increases V!Devo odds - I'd feel this'd be amplified in an Elim doc. As posted this cycle, this is the vc. By right, corrected for Ravenclaw's vote, which I have checked and confirmed has not budged from Devo, the result is actually: Which means we should've had a RNG throw. I'm going to just @Elandera here as well to save Mat any time of @ing here. I think there are intuitive and simple ways to resolve this situation, but don't want to put my thumb on the scales as a player and I'm sure Mat and Elan are more than thoroughly equipped to handle this. (Also @Ookla the Destined ) I think I'm going to recode Tallybot to be able to do automated vote tallies. But it's not on top of my list of things to do, as RL and time stuff. I'll see to doing it if I'm still around next cycle, as I should have a bit more time to do it then. I want to look at the mess that was EoD. The error in the vc means I've got to do two layers of checking for the perceived reality players might've been responding to and the actual votestate. Edited to add: Aeo doesn't notice either. Not teamed with Devo ig? God I'm just building this set of thoughts out of utter fricking crack aren't I. Edited to add 2: Araris doesn't seem to notice this either. I'm now having to ask myself if it's possible the Elims absolutely did not even realise either. Not...teamed...with...Devo...I...guess...? >> Who the f is teamed with Devo even at this point we all legit just went with the damn Ravenclaw crack
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    FWIW I'm fine with that - I think the main reason I'd advocate a meta-read here is to keep from exeing you for doing things that are just you being you rather than Evil. I think Elims are perfectly findable using normal methods. Something I see as a significant value proposition of meta as I said is really there as a stop-gap to stop punishing players for idiosyncracies. Why so? This one is ringing half the alarm bells the last one did!
  13. Kasimir
    @Ookla the Destined Did you factor in Ravenclaw's retraction on Archer and shift to Devo? I've been looking for more from them but can't seem to find a revote. Could doublecheck Tallybot but it needs to be set up because Ookla season again. This vote: Have noticed all tallies seem to be off as a result and no one has so far commented on this which is ???
  14. Kasimir
    I think it's possible. But it's just really hard to say. I think if we open up the GM's own meta, that's a whole separate can of worms. But I'm drawn back to the fact of the Raven kill. I think it's pretty indicative that something's askew somewhere. I'd sort of agree with this, caveated. I can say a little more explicitly now that part of why I directed the question at you and asked most people to stay off is I think you tend to produce more readable content when asked mech/strat questions early on than necessarily, reads. This is something I had in my head from Archer's QF where Mat and I both read you C1 on the basis of discussion of locked voting and wanted to see if it was applicable in this game. Sort of like your answer, I will say at least. Probably get some good rest man. And yeah, it's a bit of a conflation but I think Ash's is the correct way to go so I shouldn't make that slip. Rest well, thanks!
  15. Kasimir
    Uh, a weird hybrid of both as Cash's last game was LG91. AFAICT yes. I'm asking largely because you have a constant awareness/self-perception (one that isn't wrong IMO) about how you tend to be pushed by Elims because you are a soft target, especially pre-C3. I'm curious about whether you feel whether that's in effect or not. Sometimes you bring it up, sometimes you don't. If so/not why. That sort of thing. Yeah exactly, but that's a kind of soft suppression, is what I'm getting at - just that you can't be excluded comfortably from this list. I guess you could say there's a sort of elision here between 'could exist on a team with' and 'would kill', yeah, which Ash would probably yell at me for not being more attentive to and which I should be careful of. Edited to add: Additional bonus question for the floor. Do people think that Neil's constantly confusing who died is a good look, a show, or NAI? Edited to add 2: Actually apologies - @Ookla the Bald if you have time/seen this: specifically, could I ask for your view on the Ravenclaw NK beyond the entailment it's likely an E!kill? Edited to add 3: @Amanuensis / @Ookla the Resolute I went through a bunch of Coffeecat games so y'all don't have to, with the caveat that it's dated meta. Standing by my assessment I do like Coffee's entrance into this cycle a bit better this time, have flagged a few posts of interest across Coffee's games as points of reference. Probably more for Aman but think Aeo just skipped it. FWIW Aman, my view is treat these like 'if you need them/are rethinking Coffee' sort of deal. MR43: V!Coffee's reaction to suspicion/generating own suspicions (Functionally suspects everyone who votes him.) LG71: E!Coffee defending against suspicion Two noteworthy points: overselfconscious in response to pressure: "and i realize this message sounds like an elim flaunting their weak alibi, but that is just what i do." and a slight touch of 'Wrong Formula' Elim response ("you can't use X to say I'm Elim!") MR42: E!Coffee activity Asks for vc and an update. Slight hedgy when trying to push xino - possible hesitance on pushing V? Will note as it's worth KIVing that Coffee aggressively pushed for SK death over his own in a slightly similar set-up. 10/10 worth reading though, *wipes tear from eye* Mat and TJ were so pure. They grow up so fast. More seriously, I'm hoping some of these samples give an idea of where Coffee might've been at, even if they're not recent recent. I am tentatively willing to stand by my slightly positive read - it's more proactive than their V games, but also more proactive than their E games. I guess I just saved these as a hedge because I just don't feel the positives are at this point strong enough to swamp what I absolutely agree with Aman are things I'd normally take as red flags in a certain player profile. H'okay. Armed with the power of the nap, let's try to power on through...
  16. Kasimir
    @Ookla the Bald What's your read of the NKs? All the best with your RL. Also, second question. How do you feel about Aman's ? on you at the moment? Edited to add: There's a reason Araris and I are the grouchy old guys playing from the porch of the SE retirement home Edited to add 2: I agree with your natural meta being control kills - mine is as well, as Mat knows very well I find it amusing that E!me and E!Mat have prioritised each other for kills, but yeah. What's holding me back off a more natural crossout is QF64 where you deliberately suppressed your kill meta as you were making the calls for your team. Granted, you had an incentive to find Winzik and to murder your way through the Inner Circle, but you were severely tempted to shoot me.
  17. Kasimir
    Oh, I forgot this: After discussions with the committee, we're revising the duplicate rules. There are no duplicate roles. However, the Forsaken will know a role that isn't in the game.
  18. Kasimir
    To be honest, yeah, you got me there, but everyone knows I play neutral like Village and it's pretty sick to play knowing you can meme on the Elims and there's nothing they can do about it >:) Edited to add: Also fair IMO. Minimally the least intuitive option anyway. Edited to add 2: Yeah apologies the analysis isn't going well. Brain is still mostly a wall of exhausted sleepfog but I'm hoping to get a nap over lunch to become functional enough to finish it. I guess I'll just lay it out instead of alluding to it - wrist troubles have gotten a bit worse due to jarring the injury multiple times and I'm not doing too well on the painkillers front among other things so I have been doing without and just racking up insane sleep debt. Caffeine helps but again, a lot of times, it's currently like thinking through mud. I just keep redoing the same lines of analysis and feeling like an idiot because my thoughts are moving at glacial speed. I don't want to blue text this, as it's not stopping me from playing, just functioning at 30%. Hope to be able to get back into the game properly by next cycle. Going to take my own advice about accepting my personal limitations even if I hate them. Don't let this stop you from sussing me if you want to tbh.
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    You forgot to add Kas
  20. Kasimir
    Why so? Fair. I'd normally use their meta as a reference point but the fact they've got finals is sort of fuzzing it IMO.
  21. Kasimir
    I'm calling it now. SK!Aeo. She's performing a series of brutal killings on me and y'all are just watching it (j/k Aeo) Iron Age fits in many senses. Fire and blood. @Amanuensis Tbh I'm rethinking JNV. Is there a reason you've pitched them below null at this point?
  22. Kasimir
    Hi everyone, this is your captain speaking, everything is perfectly fine and we'll be arriving in Helgen in three more days. Oh right this isn't a flight announcement. Alright, here's the deal: I'm currently juggling some unexpected RL madness including a report, and Drake and I are still hammering out the last of the distro/mech issues. We'd also really like nine players if we can get them. We can make it work with seven, but the test will be less robust. In light of all these factors together, we'd like to postpone the commencement of the game and closure of sign-ups to Monday, the same time - 1300hrs SGT (=GMT+8) with the game to commence at 1330hrs SGT. As the maximum value of X is currently 5, this means that one way or another, the full game will be done by Friday, leaving everyone time to fully enjoy A Very Merry SEmas so unlike the Great War, we'll be done by Christmas we swear >> Thank you for your understanding!
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    The problem is that I don't actually recall them from anything more recent than MR43, but I'm currently reading QF49 as they theoretically appear there but I'm on C2 and haven't seen a single post from them. Let me see if I can share the filter... Ok evidently not. I think you should just use the spreadsheet, filter in the Data tab under Players for Lord_Silberfarben, and then pick a more recent game you find relevant. QF49 is their last and they apparently actually played LG71 which might mean Aman has played them before, just zero recall. Edited to add: Yeah don't check out QF49 it's no good. I'd advise avoiding MR43 too - I recall they hard RPed, got one or two posts off, and then died, so I don't think there's anything there. Edited to add 2: Hey Elims no need to finish me tonight Aeo already did
  24. Kasimir
    For the love of Sanderson can u pls self-protect kthx I'll gladly die for u bro Sorry, slightly more filled out response now that I'm no longer pecking it out on a mobile while dodging traffic. The thing for Coffee IMO is that given their profile, I can see that coming from V!them (they're exactly the kind of profile that struggles, therefore might overhedge in an overly-honest reflection of paranoia/failure to prioritise/reflection of deep personal uncertainty) or I can see that coming from E!them which I think is your concern here wrt Coffee's oversignalling of a hedge, i.e. refusal to commit/desire to keep options open and return to you. The result is a wash to me - I still liked the energy with which they came at you, it's been a Long Time since I played with or GMed Coffee and (note to self to cross-reference with the spreadsheet) so dated meta is always a bit ??? For one, I can say that in most of the games (MR43, QF6), Coffee didn't do analysis. Like even the thing you got was more than I got out of Coffee those games. The German stuff was a lot of 'no u' but there's context I don't want to get into including the fact that E!Coffee got scanned that cycle but cleverly used my code to tell their teammates who the scanner was, so maybe don't underestimate? /shrug I have some scratchy memories of MR42 because I didn't play it but Orlok did, but remember Coffee playing a bit more conventionally. Might dig up but doesn't feel as important as finalising the vote analysis/NKA of Ravenclaw (more important one) if I can. I'm more bearish on TKN than Neil is, I'm afraid. Formally-speaking a null, but I have some suspicions, and generally am allergic to TKN ever feeling so comfortable he can completely disappear from the radar if I don't have a V lean of him. That being said, the C3 rule is solid IMO - if you don't see something that looks V to you (emphasis, ignore Neil here) by C3, set him on fire. I absolutely believe that for SE standards, TKN starts performing after C3 so I'd take that as the cut-off point. Sometimes you can read him before that and that's why I asked him the questions I did, but don't feel confident, sadly.
  25. Kasimir
    I'm fully expecting TKN to kill me this cycle tbh.
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