Kasimir
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Sorry my bad, I guess Cash/RBM/? as my absolute one-sec-rollover words is not a clear indicator as to who I believe should be exed next in a game where exing one remaining Elim suffices (I'm joking but I do think the absurdity exists.)
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I had to rest my wrist more so I was not using my pens as much. Now I have too many pens over-inked and I should've just admitted defeat and cleaned them out >>
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Thanks for running the game, Drake! Shoutout to Araris watching from the IM corner. And thanks for the entertainment of the duel, @Cash67 and @Wierdo, I loled so much watching the madness/shenanigans! Edited to add: Maybe, maybe not. I at least didn't distrust you enough to feel you were anywhere in next exe territory, I just wanted to see if I could bait a response from you/Cash by voting you. Isn't that enough as a trust level?
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This game is full of knaves and liars smh EDIT: I lean Cash/RBM/? atm. Pushing RBM over the Aeo theory but I acknowledge this is partly reluctance due to previous Cash MLs. I do believe Cash is behaving off. -
Bee
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In terms of serious thoughts, back to basics: -I do feel TUA's voting has been opportunistic. The Archer vote is a little weird though and here I mean weird for E!TUA. -Weaver has slipped under the radar this cycle but was still viewing thread. This should be rectified. -I am still waiting for the E!TUA tic. Uncertain if it is a good sign it has not yet appeared. -Aet is not a lylo problem. -I wish I could say something stronger on Bee but no dice. Bee tends to clump on the main train when E. I keep asking if a Bee team would kill Aeo as Aeo defended Bee, but with Raven lying about the HP, it's tempting to see a connection there. EDIT: Hey Drake when you do the write-up can you reference Aet and Cash having a stay awake competition?
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EDITED 2: Ngl be real funny if Aet and Cash are teamed and they were planning to hammer TUA. Funnier if Aet, Cash, TUA are the Elim team preparing to hammer because I can't do anything about that one! Edit N: Yep!
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EDIT: I'm theorising Aeo died because of her PM post and Raven lying to Bee about HP messages Note: I'm not final voting yet. Don’t stress. Reminder to TUA and Cash that rollover is 3PM for me. I will outlast both of you. My vote is negotiable.
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TUA
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Hey Mat you interested in PHing for me?
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EDIT: Yes and no? You yourself dismissed four Elims as unlikely though if there are four, we are certainly screwed. At three, if Village doesn't vote/together next cycle, assuming worst case result today, we are screwed. We're missing inputs from Quivil, Weaver (looked in and said nothing), and Wierdo did not vote so this doesn't bode well for reasons that have less to do with distro and more to do with landscape. EDIT2: Thoughts? EDIT3: Ngl tempted to switch to TUA here.
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I'm really playing this cycle groggy on sedatives so it's been fun. I join the husky screaming
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That’s kind of weird because Spark and RBM just aren't really equal here? Being third voter is different from being second, leaving aside their differing post histories. But fair, get rest!
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Yeah you should sleep, dw. I was just backreading, don't mind me. Cash, still open for discussions all the way to rollover
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Cash is avoiding the Bee train. I'd normally consider it a Village thing to do given he's currently endangered by his refusal but he's also got Bee down in an ambiguous sort of readspace that is making me consider the utility of switching to vote with you under the assumption they are teamed.
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You able to spell this out more? Edit: @Aeternum There’s something interesting Cash is doing here and it's making me consider the best way forwards.
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This yes
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Is there some reason you sussed every Archer voter except Aet and RBM? That post doesn't read like info issues specific to Archer — reads more focused and opportune. @Wierdo Would you be able to spell out why you have that reaction to Aet but not me? To be clear, I'm actually trying to work out if you have TMI.
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Hmm. You say the rest seem neutral. Are you able to spell out what you mean here? Like why are they neutral? Is it because they are doing some a mix of things? 'Cause you seem to be alright with forming a read on me, so what are these guys not doing for you?
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Edited to add: Raven is obvious, could I ask you to spell out why me a little? @Aeternum Wrt the Bee-Raven exchange, AFAICT: About 4.5 hours to EoD C2, Raven mentions getting a PM from Bee. Raven comments about insinuating he had a message from the HP and being suspicious because the last time Bee PMed him, Bee was Evil (note that it was just kind of impossible for V!Bee to PM Raven in QF70.) Raven later notes he is confused about Bee saying pretty much everyone else wants to PM Raven. At that time, Archer's reaction is that he's interested in why Bee is PMing so late in the cycle, especially with Bee facing early pressure. My response is that since Raven can't c/p, Raven has to make the judgement call for himself about phishiness because it's kind of hard to when working (in the PM) off Raven's reporting and we can't see the original exchange. I ask Raven this cycle if he had received any claims/scans, given the paucity of PMs last cycle. Raven confirms the situation hasn't changed and his PMs are with me, Aet, and Bee. I ask Raven if he thinks it's plausible that Village players are the ones who hung back more wrt willingness to spend their one PM on Raven. Raven's reaction is that he's not sure but he feels Bee has been pressing him pretty directly on what the HP has been sharing with him. My thoughts on this issue: -I'm approaching this more from an outlier perspective: by and large, most Village players seem to have been conservative with PMs. I say this because exactly three players PMed Raven, and in fact, I myself didn't initiate the Raven PM I'm in. So I'm curious about whether: A. The Elims delegated one member to PM Raven B. PMing Raven should be V!indicative or not. I'm not sure there's a definite valence to scan curiosity in light of Raven dropping HP hints, but honestly to some extent this is a "do I trust Raven's judgement that it seemed phishy" or not sort of deal. But it's worth dropping now to discuss, and I arguably held this back a bit too long I guess. Edited to add 2: What is the info you believe we have gained, and how does it inform your position this cycle? To be clear, this is directly a "if you are V I don't wanna ML you" ask at this point.
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Yeah. I find it an outlier because as TUA's admission reveals, very few players actually contacted Raven. In fact, there was no HP claimant, therefore no scan results. At this juncture, this leads me to believe there is no HP or an E!HP (the first is technically possible, the latter- Ah. Crem. I'm an idiot. Line of reasoning - I feel it is less likely that we are seeing a no HP game because it's usually a bit much for a GM to scam players into a game that is all regulars on steroids. It's technically possible, however. The lack of a claim to Raven suggests to me a new/low confidence E!HP who doesn't dare to do the claim/misleading. (In the world there is a V!HP, they're clearly not scanning, which is in itself a remarkable decision, alongside the decision to not claim to the confirmed Villager and if we screw up this cycle, we're at lylo next cycle, so I think the utility of dodging the issue has come to an end.) Here's the thing though. If E!HP, E!Bee knows there is no HP, so why is Bee asking Raven about the HP's scans? Do we postulate the Elims are concerned about a double HP world? Gonna re-read the group PM one more time to confirm I'm not misrepresenting Raven's phrasing.
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He wasn't asking who was HP according to Raven - he was asking for HP scan info. I'd still like to hear his mentality because I've got Bee in the category/profile of players I struggle to read because new/erratic a little, but I feel the phishing is semi-remarkable in a landscape where pretty much no one PMed Raven. Trying to decide if you are Priest or Heretic! Red team or green team. In terms of direction, I guess I'd ask about whether you feel about the current situation. Does anyone seem heretical/suspicious, etc. We've had two rounds of going after people who turned out green after all. If you are green team, appreciate you are busy but do try to vote/stay engaged if you can! If we screw up this cycle, we lose if we vote wrong next cycle or if not all of us vote, so it's worth being on the ball. Maybe flip the other way - who do you trust rn?
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Atm thread mood looks like Cash v. Bee. I'm also trying to get a sense of what I think about you. You were pretty chill about being put up for death C1 and you've been sheeping pretty unapologetically for both C1 and C2. Low reactions C1 could mean you're Village, but hard to make the call. Direct thought here is to get your views, indirect thought here is to solidify a thought on you.
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More seriously, I'm just contemplating choices. @Wierdo Where's your top suspicions rn? If you are Village, you have to know that your vote is crucial, especially going into next cycle if we screw up this one. Lack of consensus next cycle if we botch this cycle means the Elims can hammer to win.
