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Does this mean we're electing TJ as our sitter What if we just make our own doc with blackjack and snookers? Sir does this mean you're committing to RPing as a member of the Amazing Technicolour Dream Ajah?
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The problem was I couldn't see it! I declare for the Amazing Technicolour Dream Ajah as well! Hello Ajah-mate! Fortunately we are civilised here and auto-file, I just need to make sure the auto-file is correct
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Time to make a new certainty. TJ Lesgo Drakebro Edited to add: How dare you How dare you remind me I need to look at my taxes!
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What happened to death, taxes, and Cena the face bhai?
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Sir your banner broke Drake: Never passing up a chance for a GMvot I take it you're declaring for the Technicolour Ajah then
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I've just come off a recent Elim game and I've missed the chance to be able to cut loose, cut me some slack damnit >>
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Honestly? If TJ says there is a N0 kill, then I'm dropping my reads in thread, one way or another, because that will be the best thing I can do at this point in the game. I don't intend to go for the Sitter role due to the Ajah-mate really wanting it, so this will give the Elims a free shot on me. Some of them are based on Ajah interactions. One way or another, that's essentially revealing my Ajah mates but I value the reads and good Village play more than I value the thought of whatever advantage we're supposed to get from Ajah abilities. This is where I am at. I cannot really argue against people who value Ajah abilities more, and I think it's fair to say we can maybe wait until N2 or say, when an Ajah has been overtargeted to make claims, but this has to be made by thinking of actual, concrete value to the Village, and not out of hypothetical "we could use the ability though!" If no N0 kill, I'm holding fire for tonight. Minimally, Ajah Sitters should claim deaths. We're not going to be able to detect a lying Sitter once an Ajah has been cleaned out, but hopefully we'll at least get some info early on. Regardless of whether Ajah mates are or are not revealed, Ajah overtargeting should be an alarm bell because it either indicates Black Ajah attempts to use that Ajah's ability for themselves (though they could just as easily get their faction mates on board - not that hard in a three person doc), or that the doc is uninfiltrated, so the Ajah is being targeted with zero fear of exposure. Can't say which is more likely off the top of my head - depends on reads - but in a game with multiple group docs, where the kills happen is really important and as long as he's alive, I'm gonna need y'all to make sure @Ashbringer actually shows up with NKA and that his NKA makes sense.
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RIP o7 Sorry Imma engage chill for the next couple hours while I try to survive the impromptu dance-off that has just happened outside the door.
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Thought you wrestled? Also you speaking for TJ bhai now? I guess I'll add part of my thoughts behind a massclaim is just that I think we're gonna end up there anyway - beyond selecting our Sitters, N0 is a way of doing what people always really hate about D1 - getting reactions, responses, and reads without even having to kill anyone. Given the material stakes for them, Ajahs with robust discussion will be better placed for D1. If we don't go into D1 using that to boost the usual D1 start, then what in tarnation are we actually doing? Not saying be immediately reckless but again - roles and powers are not as important as showing up as a Villager and doing the basic Village work. I promise I will really RP later, I just need to get more sleep. On further reflection maybe going in full throttle was not the best choice to avoid scaring the new people Edited to add: Sorry, I'm tired. What I meant to say was, given the material stakes for them, Elims are gonna have to engage with the mechanic regardless, which means there's readable info there. So Ajahs with robust discussion will be better placed for D1.
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I've been told by numerous people that my mere existence as a Villager tends to do that to the Elims anyway ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Thank you for saying what I just did in my post I don't feel we caught any Elims making any slips whatsoever in LG84, nor did this happen convincingly in the LG84 rerun game I ran for M&M in December last year. (Similar structure - V/E, each player belonged to a Team, each Team had oneshot powers.) I don't really care about the Elims' mental state if this doesn't create an actual slip that can be capitalised on or caught. Edited to add: Deeper cut for Joe - this did not happen in LG7 either.
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I do have my thoughts on this, but I want to wait for more people to show up before I tip my hand too aggressively. I did respond to Joe the way I did largely because I wanted to point out there are two levels of reveal here and I think it's worth assessing which people are also automatically thinking about: claiming your Ajah-mates versus claiming your Ajah colour. To me, there's a good case for doing the former, but not the latter. Edited to add: My bad, I misread a little too: I was working off the version of the rules where only alignment is revealed on flip. This is still true of the game as per the current version, but Sitters have their Ajah revealed, which is not an aspect of the rules I remembered, so claiming Ajah-mates is essentially an Ajah-full-claim, which makes things trickier.
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That's actually a significant tempo issue, because we can't even directly control it: we have to engineer the votes to make sure that majority is not reached and that Black Ajah suspect has the least votes to get them Stilled and therefore exposed to the exe the next Day. That's a free kill at Night for the Black Ajah and is equivalent to dealing with a Thug, just more annoying than usual. Interesting you're taking it as mass-claiming Ajah colours. I deliberately left the point vague because I wanted to see how people would read into it too: it's possible to simply mass-claim who your doc mates are without stating what colour doc you are in. You can even just give your Ajah a completely random name, e.g. the Pancake Ajah. Edited to add: Bro, I have serious trauma from workshopping this one with TJ and Drake until it made sense
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Don't forget every Ajah elects a Sitter and Sitters are immune to the NK and the exe unless Stilled. This means that 1/3 of the game starts out on N1 as being unkillable, depending on what TJ's response to my N0 comment is. It also means for each Ajah that elects a Black Ajah Sitter, we have to essentially exe them twice to get rid of them.
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They do, but not all players are comfortable self-hustling in doc. On the other hand, sometimes players just want to survive and therefore want to become a Sitter to get some immunity. The trick is figuring out where it's alignment-indicative and where it's player idiosyncracies. I'm currently side-eyeing an Ajah-mate for hustling for the nomination, but also acknowledge it's well within the E!meta for the one who doesn't want it. But it's early in the Night, and I hope to get a better lock on them, and to see how everyone in thread feels about outing Ajah-mates (I lean yes but will wait to hear from everyone about thoughts.) Fortunately I have 48 hours to decide which of them to vote for, or if I'm gonna advocate letting it rand
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No, there isn't. There's blue text but that's for specific OOG RL stuff that relate to you being unable to play the game. Blue is like the special text - it's an honour code system where you don't lie about blue text things so no one pushes that button unless they really got to. Some players (myself included) prefer not to use blue text when mentioning RL because we think it creates an expectation that any RL mention not in blue can be a lie and leads to an unproductive slippery slope, but the short of it is if it's in blue, it's not supposed to be a lie, and it's something the GM and IM will probably enforce. Examples of blue text cases: I won't be able to get back for the rest of this cycle because I have three meetings back-to-back so I'm going to vote for TJ My power just got cut and I'm currently using my mobile but don't expect to be very available this cycle. Edited to add: I'll RP in a bit, but I wanted to drop some general cross-Ajah recommendations in the thread: we are essentially having micro-elections in each Ajah doc tonight and I think it's worth trying to read how your Ajah-mates approach the whole voting process. There are probably worse things the Village can do than letting it rand, but I think at least some Black Ajah will be trying to get nominated or pushing back against more unexeable players getting nominated, so it's worth looking out for voting dispositions. tldr; remember that while we have Ajah docs, this is not a faction game, we are all one Village unless you're Black Ajah in which case, rough, so there's no reason to be focusing on the docs alone and not establishing in-thread communication. Edited to add 2: @|TJ| Bhai, is N0 a zero-kill night? Seem to recall it is but unsure if that's something we discussed when building this ruleset or if I'm confusing this with the Pokemon Mystery Dungeon game I ran. Nothing particularly at stake here other than how obnoxious I want to be to the Elims >:P Edited to add 3: How does everyone feel about an Ajah-mate massclaim? 4-5 Elims, maybe 6 tops depending on how TJ views the dynamic of this game (Sitters etc) seems likely to me; we probably have one or two uninfiltrated Ajahs, but the Black Ajah knows more than we do, so might as well close that gap. (Note: I'm not asking people to do it, I'm asking for your thoughts on it. Might as well get started aggressively even if this is N0.) Adding as well I'm tempted to weakly V!lean Worldhopper here for that sort of question in thread. Concede it's hard to tell with a newcomer though since Worldhopper should have an Ajah doc regardless of Black Ajah status.
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Kasimir replied to The Unknown Medallion's topic in Sanderson Elimination
You had a pretty good run IMO for your first town shot. Usually takes some adjusting to!- 31 replies
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Yeah! I think it's really cool - how'd you get it, in the end?
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QF74 Aftermath - Turn Out The Lights
Kasimir replied to The Unknown Medallion's topic in Sanderson Elimination
I feel like you wanted to balance everything Godlike scans in LG103, and then this- 31 replies
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For absolutely no reason whatsoever: if you're going from GMT to BST, then it'll go forward on 30th March. Don't ask me why I know this.
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Very universal timezone bhai
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............. Polly asking the most relevant question no one has thought to ask yet @|TJ| Bhai, are you gonna be back to GMT by then or no?
