Kasimir

Mat has @ me about this before, apparently I tend to just have a pretty good memory when it comes to players and (more unusually), the numeric games they played in. I guess you can consider it more of a feat when I remember it both from the days we both started playing and more recent times. So in answer to: Probably AG2, so 2015/2016 boundary. This was when you did the FNG play and murdered pretty much all the Villagers, so good job and well done, especially on your first game! I think I was sussing you but obviously, nothing a knife in my back didn't solve man I'm not really using that as a baseline for your play, though. I'm just going with it. On further reflection, I kind of like this? Mark can go to the Village pool. Well, the mixed read/train agnosticness has me a bit conflicted on him, but I also think Mark willing to kind of say this about the guy who spent a decent chunk of the cycle in lead train given what my flip would say just feels pretty real and more likely from V!Mark than E!Mark. I think my question is: if you read LG101, shouldn't it have jumped out to you? Both TUN being difficult to read and the fact the game did not, in fact, really find TUN? (They found Drake very quickly.) Ngl bruv, while I support this and you're probably one of the players I V!read of most of the Sitters, I'm not really ready to roll the dice on you being the Seat immediately without feeling as though I can solidify my read one way or another. I'm not banking our entire wincon on a N0-D1 read and frankly I'd side-eye any player willing to do so this early in the game. I'd at least wait and see if I still feel that way by C3 or so. Regardless, you're not my lead candidate for Stilling tonight, suffice to say.

Take this as you will: it's a bit meta coming from me, but 1/3 the game can't be voted on. Of everyone left: <Wiz, Polly, Storm, Aet, Ash, Hopper, Drake, you/Mark, Teldris, STINK, Gaea> I V!read Drake and Hopper so they're immediate no-s to me. <Wiz, Polly, Storm, Aet, Ash, Hopper, Drake, you/Mark, Teldris, STINK, Gaea> You got N1ed just last game and I'd like you to be able to actually play the game. Similar energy for Storm because he got exed pretty early on in the AG and I think he was hoping to enjoy WoT RPing. (Not sure, just guessing off the Melian sign-up and the fact he does characters. Agreed he has played in the QF too so technically it's not as urgent, but I guess I have a soft spot for newbies. STINK's first game back, and Teldris's first game.) <Wiz, Polly, Storm, Aet, Ash, Hopper, Drake, you/Mark, Teldris, STINK, Gaea> I could vote Polly but I think the resulting train is just less useful to everyone at this stage in the cycle. One vote train on Wiz doesn't feel productive either, and I'm already chilling on Aet so it's between <Ash, Gaea> for me if I want my vote to be useful. I'm also interested in what this says about Sart. Given all these train formations, and the fact I don't really want Drake dead because he's one of my V reads*, I think it's reasonable for me to consider quite relevant a world where I do get exed D1, if only because there aren't that many choices due to a lot of players being protected one way or another. And IDK if people feel bad about it so I'm just saying outright that I don't really mind. I haven't been exed since 2018 anyway, so I guess I'm long overdue. *There's probably something about how I should not be willing to let myself go over compared to a V read and I get it but my response to that sort of choice is "Nah, I'm just going to vote elsewhere because this is a stupid forced dilemma and I'm not buying it."

As far as I'm concerned, voting Polly is the best move here given my credences (having two of my V reads in a tie with the E read is a no brainer) and I may very well decide to do that subsequently. But I don't think that's the most useful place for my vote to be going. xxGaea Dovie'andi se tovya sagain. Edited to add: @Terrisman - I notice you don't tend to bold your votes. Would it be possible to try doing so? It makes them easier to catch, and also some of the players are colourblind, so some shades of unbolded red are particularly murder to identify. Thank you!

Unfortunately, I lost my post, so I'm going to need to come back and slowly reconstruct it, which is a tad annoying. Linking to the entire post for length reasons. I generally agree with this take (I'll elaborate later when citing something Mark says) but also it makes me nervous because Sart's Village playstyle and my Village playstyle are generally orthogonal and it's when we both agree with each other that Sart is usually E, apart from that TJ Infernal Affairs game but that game was just super weird. (I don't know/think we have this relation when I'm E to Sart's V, but I guess we'll find out one day.) Why does that matter? I'm asking about the perspective of the players voting for you on N0. I spent N0 trying to vote for someone I thought was Village. I don't care if they're stillable, that's tempo lost as they can't be voted or pressured until they're stilled. And Stilling is Village-level, voting for a Sitter is Ajah-level. One is appreciably more controllable than the other because you're at the mercy of multiple things, including the Village finding other Sitters more sus. The only returning player I'd expect not to know your playstyle in this game is Gaea. Mark has played with E!you before, as has Experience (though subbed out now), Drake, Wiz, STINK etc. For new players, Polly backreads games, including one with E!you (LG101), so I'm going to assume she also knows it. I'll note that TwinStorm also played with E!you in LG103, though you got D1ed that game. That's a decent chunk of the game's population right there. If you like, we can adjust the claim for the newer players: given the opacity of your usual playstyle, I'm surprised that new players in particular, who struggle to generate reads, can feel confident in just assuming you're Village - do you not find that curious? Yeah. She first asked us to call her Polly in Steel's Olympics MR and has been using it ever since. Yeah. Basically I didn't really like this post from Terris: To me, the call for a good explanation stood out because Drake and I had both made arguments as to why some sense of who was in an Ajah together was helpful. This suggested to me that Terris was artificially setting a very high bar of 'good', which is usually a thing new player Elims do more - they don't really know how to sus or to object to something so they just position themselves against a high bar of evidence. I believe I said as much last Night, too. However, Terris had this later post which I liked: It's definitely pretty cheap and easily replicated, but it feels like a Village mindset, and a bit consistent with Terris's professed wariness of own Ajah-mates. Hence my saying I was conflicted on my Terris read. I did mention the Drake read basis both last cycle and in a response to Jo this cycle, c'mon bro Hopper felt pretty alone in the thread, but also happy to be there. That's a cheap N0 read but one I'm running with for now: You can argue it's performative (given Hopper could ask in Ajah) but it seemed kind of consistent with how Hopper's been playing and I liked the energy of the post, it's good energy. I'd probably expect something a bit more low-key from a first-time Elim, but I also generally suck at raw post/vibe analysis. For Drake, it's back to what I said here: I think an Elim seeking to gain cheap Village cred in response to my question intuitively goes for the 'proper' Village line: caution, the Elims get nothing because they deserve nothing Drake directly chose the response more likely to gain heat, and I'm fine giving him credit for that. It's balanced by the fact that Drake as a player just is more comfortable with risk than most, so I could also see that coming from E!Drake. However, V!Drake feels ok to me as a read for now without opening the E!Drake layer, and I'm comfortable enough in my ability to bro read Drake that I feel I'll be able to correct that read in decent time if I'm actually wrong. (We play together on a different mafia server as well so he's probably the one player in this game I have especial confidence in my ability to read.) Side-thing but TwinStorm yo-yoing here is kinda whack ngl. Tbh this is why the game went through like five different iterations with Drake, TJ, me, and TUN trying to patch it. Some of it is the wincon confusion wrt Village needing or not needing to elect an Amrylin. In one iteration, the Amrylin had three Seeker scans, etc. The bottom line is TUN and I both warned that the Village might just decide the best course of action is not to elect an Amrylin but one way or another, the ruleset as it currently is is engineered to force the Village to do so eventually, if only because of the Stillings, and the fact an Amrylin is de facto elected once we're down to I think two Sitters left. Minimally, since we are forced to elect, I do think we should at least control the Sitter pool by ensuring the most suspicious Sitters are Stilled each Night so that even if the Amrylin is only elected when we can no longer delay, we aren't left with Suspicous McSusface as Amrylin because we didn't pay enough attention to the Sitter pool. Alongside the fact we...naturally want to exe pressure/actually exe sus Sitters! Anyway TJ just thought players would be excited to get to elect an Amrylin so I guess TUN and I shrug here and say "I told you so" But the game's not designed to break regardless, even if players choose to delay into elections, and between overtuning the Amrylin and undertuning, undertuning is just better and less prone to breaking. I don't disagree but suspect I'm coming to this from different reasons than Aet. Mostly to do with the fact that Storm is playing a lot more conventional this game compared to say, LG103 or AG11. It's true that Storm has already started to make that shift in QF74, but that's a lot deeper than usual and it makes me wonder if an Elim doc interaction is why Storm is going there. Feelsbad to sus on the basis of improving play though ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I kind of agree with this and kind of don't. Ties mid-cycle are always good because they force reactions, but Sart is also not wrong that saying it'll change eases the pressure, and also, vote for your susses. So I'm kinda mixed because I agree with this, but again, when I'm V and agree with Sart, it's usually E Sart rather than V Sart. We're just fire and water as Villagers lol. Could this be any more "struggling to form suspicions"? I like the spirit of the vote. STINK should definitely not be allowed to slip under the radar - it's his superpower as an Elim because people tend to forget about him. This is, incidentally, something that makes me sus of TUN because TUN is very aware of my E!range If you believe your experience is limited and I have some experience, why assume you are then correct that it is E!mentality rather than my just having played more games than you did? j/k I'm just trolling I'd say Storm is correct here that players like to trust more than they should, but in general that's not the intuitive mindset - they start from suspicion, and then move towards trust, sometimes faster than they should, which is ah, the infamous bird PM Steel mentioned. Either way, it doesn't really interact with my question because my question is framed from the perspective of what a Villager should be doing, rather than what the Villager may be actually doing. Tbh, I feel like Polly is also struggling to formulate E reads here, and I think that's concerning to me and makes me wonder about TMI leak. There's a bit of a shift from last game, but also, last game was postcapped and I found about three Polly posts to go off so. Expecting me to react to a vote on me? C'mon, you gotta be kidding me You...read LG101. And TwinStorm has played with E!TUN before. Of the entire playerlist, only BridgeBoi, Terris, Teldris, Jo, Hopper, and Gaea could be reasonably expected not to know how E!TUN behaves. (The fact you say you don't know is not reasonably something I'd assume given knowledge you read LG101 prior to you saying this.) That's 1/3 of the game. It isn't even a majority new player game! If it turns out TUN is Ajah-mates with Polly and Storm, this will probably explain it in a less sus way, but if TUN isn't, but is Ajah-mates with two newer players, I almost think this is a potential Elim slip because why the hell would I assume, in a non-majority new player game, that TUN's Ajah-mates would be specifically new and thus unaware of how TUN plays? Given the game comp, it feels like Polly is assuming I'd know that Ajah's comp, but how would I know it unless I was Black Ajah with a teammate in TUN's Ajah? (If I'm in TUN's Ajah, then this being sus shouldn't even arise from V!Polly's POV because V!Polly doesn't know the Ajah comp but must assume I know it.) Part of this also ties to my rejoinder to TUN about his readability to new players. @The Unknown Flame - in case there's any light you judge yourself able to shed, otherwise I'll just go with how I feel about it. @Aeternum Do you not find this Villagery a little? Because ngl I do - I feel like Storm sticking to his guns about preferring to trust Polly and that being how a Villager would approach this game kind of feels in the wheelhouse of a newer player or at least seems consistent with his views in a genuine way. I feel like an Elim would be more wary about this after getting pressured by you for this. Slightly concerned about this post, and I guess it comes down to stuff like worrying about whether Terris is kind of TMIing me Village here, since this is kind of accusing Steel of setting me up as a ML. IF YOU TLDR; THE ENTIRE POST THIS IS THE IMPORTANT BIT Current read thoughts: VILLAGE PROLLY: <Jo, Drake, Hopper, Storm??, Steel> Not sure about Steel revision upwards but on further reflection, I feel like there's a disrepancy with QF74 E!Steel here. I really don't know how I feel about Storm and if I'm overcredencing on that one post, but yeah. NULL: <Aet, Wiz, Sart, Ash, Terris, anyone else not mentioned - players mentioned because they're deliberately null due to mixed factors etc.> If forced to pick, I'd probably put Ash and Sart as Village but I'm not super comfortable with the Sart read, have a healthy respect for Aet's E!range, and don't feel there's much to go off for Wiz. Terris probably V if forced as well, but I go back and forth on Terris. SUS: <TUN, Polly, BridgeBoi> Will note BridgeBoi not only got ignored but made a post that was pretty much nothing substantial as third voter on me, and that seems to have gone unquestioned by everyone including Aet. Wondering about the odds of an Aet/BridgeBoi team lol. I would put more effort into the tiers but it's D1 and I'm enjoying revisiting my childhood by making TJ listen to me laughing about the Rock overselling stunners and Gunther being a goddamned troll, so this is what you get. I'm fine with being D1ed as I can just go back to watching ~Physical Theatre, but will do my best to drop a more finalised reads list prior to rollover.

Hasn't done anything in thread that IMO warrants a good read, could have been more active in doc, but is also infamously not easy to read from most players, so it strikes me as interesting his doc was willing to vote him in as Sitter. It's possible they know this, but part of the point is to push him and to find out what happens/what his team feels about it. Do you not find it odd that your docmates both seem to have confidence that you should have it? Where's this confidence emerging from? Going to note here for 'come back to this when I'm dead' worlds that E!Steel has a history of liking to push gut votes, and that's not something I super trust either. I'll give him credit for a playstyle deviation from last game, but also feel it's interesting he doesn't seem to find it weird if he's V that his doc apparently...agreed to this as well, judging from what he's been saying. Edited to add: @TwinStorm - To sharpen the point, if the Sitter pool is gonna feed the Amrylin Seat election eventually, then the last guy I should reasonably want in my Sitter pool is someone who is going to be a cointoss at best for most of the game because he's not easy to read. The difficulty of reading him should also raise questions as to why the doc is willing to vote him (pocketing?) Edited to add 2: Welcome Aet

Too late, I already beat you to it by mentioning my Ajah-mate is Ash and I'm wary of him I think it's fine to do both. I've been using the doc as a way to feel out the rest of my Ajah, but also conveying suspicions or anything important to the thread. I'm starting to be very wary of TUF as well, actually. Unfortunately, Sitter, but that's something to talk about going forward into the Night.

For the record, if Polly said this and then voted Jo, I'm rioting.

Jo, you seem to imply you aren't suspecting your Ajah-mates for supporting you. If you are a Villager, why do you think they would agree to back you? Do you feel there's E!agenda involved? I'm trying to understand why your Ajah seems to be fairly trusting/hakuna matata as that doesn't seem like a very Village fog-of-war mindset. Edited to add: Why so? Do you think the election will be purely random?

If you think there are 2 Black Sitters, then why do you think it's impossible for them to become Amrylin? If they do become Amrylin, isn't the correct Village position being advocating deposing them?

Where was this energy last night and why does the 'no u' Elim kneejerk pushback only come when the vote comes onto you? I've made myself clear the night before I suspected you as one of the more sus of the responses to my question I received - I felt that you halfheartedly-taking it back without any firm conclusions after being pushed on your thoughts about Ajah claiming looked like you received resistance and backed away, and didn't make your convictions seem sincere. You're my top candidate for Stilling tonight. Of course, we're at the start of D1 so maybe other people will shift. Again: I mentioned 6 as an absolute limit, I felt 4-5 was more realistic. Sitters are immune to NKs and exes unless otherwise deposed. How tf do you balance for the fact that 1/3 of the game at the start is immune to exes and NKs? Sure, there's a countdown but that's also helluva lot of potential firepower ganged up there, and as a GM, I might go for a 5-team just to make sure the Elims aren't overwhelmed in this landscape. So, on your own proposition, if I'm 'experienced enough', do you think it is then the move of an experienced E player to, from your point of view, inflate the number of Elims to a "remotely unbalanced" number, and what do you think is realistically gained by doing so?

Woke up with a migraine and need to take meds. Won't be good for anything in the short term. Gonna respond to one or two things and then just eat meds and conk. My reads/rough views as of last night are somewhere in this ballpark: Probably Village: -Drake -Worldhopper -Jo? (one or two good posts.) Null: -Everyone -Ash (could revise downwards; has had some good suggestions but distrust how Ash had zero hesitation about backing our third Ajah-mate.) -Polly??? (opposite reaction to the post Jo liked, it's just ?) Sus: -Steel -Terris (had a post from last night I liked but don't super recall, unsure if I'd revise to null on the strength of it.) -TUN/Sart (mostly distrust the relative silence/nothingburgers in thread and their rise to Sitter) This is a misread of what I said, though I don't feel that E!you would do that on purpose. I said that the Elims were likely, if they engaged at all, to overcompensate by camping heavily in what they felt was intuitively the Village take here, i.e. don't claim, don't give the Elims everything. Sincere Villagers who think things through are more likely to endorse counterintuitive viewpoints - Elims don't want to take cheap heat, so don't want to go there. Edited to add: F me Steel is a Sitter nvm let's just keep it there as an Expression of My Opinion I'll fix it when I'm less out of it.

Tamra Ospenya, the Amrylin Seat was dead. A Warder, killed by the One Power. Not something you could easily hide. Whispers reverberated through the White Tower, at least among the tower guard and the Warders, even though their Aes Sedai shot them disapproving stares in public. No one, still, dared utter the name. And yet the writing was on the wall. Kamil was certain his tension was leaking across their bond. Occasionally, Wylla gave him quick glances out of the corner of her eye—too much an Aes Sedai to reveal in the turn of her expression if she was anxious, or concerned, or if she simply was...on edge. Everyone understood the enormity of it, even if Tamra Ospenya had been announced to have passed peacefully in her sleep. Rumours of knives in the dark, an Amrylin Seat murdered. The White Tower was ablaze and the Ajahs were restless. Wylla tugged at her shawl, smoothing out the white fabric with her fingers. A nervous gesture many Aes Sedai made. Not for the first time, Kamil kept a little behind, to her right, and made sure his scabbard hung free of the fancloth cloak. The last thing he wanted was to get caught on the draw. The meeting room of the White Ajah loomed before them, the doors already opened. Kamil made to proceed before Wylla, and hissed with annoyance as she held out her arm, blocking him. "Wylla," he said, in protest. "This is the heart of the Ajah, Gaidin," Wylla said. At least two other Warders lounged outside the room, looking just as displeased as Kamil felt. No one wanted to leave their Aes Sedai unprotected, even if a Warder could surely only do so little against a rogue wielder of the One Power. And there were other threats the Shadow could bring to bear. Grey Men, Faceless... Kamil's jaw firmed. No. No, he would not brook this— Wylla pushed him back again. "Don't make me," she said. He hated how Light-blinded stubborn she could be! "It will be fine, Kamil." Her tone softening, now. "They will not harm me, not before so many others." He ground his teeth together. "If there is anything at all amiss—" "—I will call, and you will break down the door even if it is held against you by the One Power," she said, her voice dry. "Yes, I know, Gaidin. Now will you stop worrying?" "Never," Kamil said. Not with fears of the Black Ajah and the Amrylin Seat's death looming in his head. Not with her Warder, slain, as the whispers had it, by the One Power. But he relented, and peeled off to join the other Warders grouchily lurking outside the meeting room. He would not feel at ease until the meeting was over. Someone had to worry about Wylla's safety, after all, especially if she wasn't going to.

...Bhai, how are you feeling?

Depends on who they are. Some people aren't very chatty in the doc. Not saying this as 'out your Ajah-mates', but saying this as 'this is something you're gonna have to determine for yourself.' Can't deny I like Terris's proactiveness though, despite also being ? a little

RIP Well, minimally, whatever happens in Jo's Ajah, I'm not a fan of a D1 on Jo, especially not after a very light V read on Jo. I can't control what happens past D1, but at least they can't kill me tonight. Tbh I don't even think so. I'm thinking maybe more Drake, with Aman as the actual archtype here. Theoretically me if my E game was better than it is. See, the problem with you/Araris here is you essentially need to campaign for it to go over and I kind of don't think that's where your strengths are. I'm thinking of uber Village lead deepwolf niche - if you are dependent on villagers deciding to push you over (certainly can't be your teammates because you've hellbussed them), then you are dependent on the Village deciding to campaign and not getting distracted - that's not ideal. What you want is the thread control package bundled into the hellbusser, and someone that conceivably could milk the Village cred from the bussing. I do feel you tend to be more passive as an Elim once you feel you've got the trust locked down, so I don't think you'd be quite in the place to do it. I'm rejecting it, and I don't know how to feel about it, as I do believe that I tend to be pretty easily identifiable when Village, and V!me locked in as Sitter and then pushing for Amrylin is a tough PtV for the Elims to fight against. But well. Sometimes it do be that way, and winning isn't everything. Either the Village will do it without me, or it won't. C'est la vie. The fact I'm conflicted about it is also part of the problem.

Smh I'll go back to watching Netflix then

I assumed they wanted less jargon, not more Trade-offs.

Rather than sneak by under the radar, I'm saying the more dangerous play to watch out for is if one member of the Black Ajah just hardcommits to looking insanely Village. Normally, the more Black Ajah someone votes to kill, particularly if they are early voters, the more Village they should be. Same for most mafia games, unless they're throwing a teammate under the bus by voting or suspecting (and then voting them) (bussing.) Because bussing generally makes it appreciably harder to win the game, most mafia players will not immediately and aggressively bus out the gate (it's usually a last resort, and done in a limited way.) The upshot is that the more Elims/mafia someone votes to kill, the more Village they tend to look. But there's a slightly perverse incentive to do so here because if they aggressively bus (hellbus) their teammates, they can get trusted and voted as Amrylin Seat, which removes the usual problem with bussing. Having said all that, the main reason I don't think it's as likely is that it requires a specific type of player to pull off, and hellbussing would require them to more or less commit to an Amrylin PtV (path to victory) over the normal PtV. That requires locking in early when maf teams would probably prefer to keep their options open. The way I see it, I think it's just something to watch out for, but not to overdo worry about and to paranoid about at the last minute. Just be aware we should probably not overcredence on having killed Black Ajah in this game. Funny enough, I kept thinking you were the C1 kill rather than the exe. It's also weird in that context due to my pointing out in dead spec you were really obviously Village - the only way you die D1 is if everyone's sleeping on the exe or if the game is full of returnees and new players, which, sorry to say, was pretty much QF74 in a nutshell. Less so here though, given the game comp.

Wanna play hangman?

Night kill analysis. Ash is particularly good at it. It means looking at who the Black Ajah kill to make inferences about who the Black Ajah are. On looking at my post again, I think there's an interesting situation/possibility where the Black Ajah could just fullsend: one member hell buses your team, secures the nomination for Amrylin, and then survives the deposition and wins on the basis of the hell bus. I think this should theoretically still be detectable and should be somewhat incompatible with them going all-in on the standard wincon this game but think it's worth keeping in mind that the subwoofer payoffs this game can actually be pretty good. I will however caution that the Village needs to not paranoia-despose. Probably won't be around for this to be my problem by then though

If you're a non-entity, why would people remotely agree to vote for you as Amrylin or to keep you there? If you're so quiet I can't develop a read on you, this shouldn't be Amrylin territory - the Amrylin needs to be the player we have the strongest Village read on among the Sitters. Null reads should be just as exeable or Stillable as sus reads. Lmao we had diametrically opposite reactions. But also, Stilling doesn't exe them, it just removes their protection, and IMO you should be eminently Stillable if you're a null read - why should I let you stay protected from exe pressure if you aren't showing up and readable? The Black Ajah will never kill you so leaving you there isn't productive for the Village. Honestly considering an E!Terris world here, because this just fails to interact with Drake, and the emphasis on good explanation makes me think of new Elim evidential bar shifting. More throwing the read out here - I do not recommend D1ing Terris on his first game. Get back in there! Point, suggestion retracted. Uh...Jo, you would never be in danger of being exed D1 as a returning player. Why are you worried about the exe specifically as compared to the Elim kill? This, but also, just reads of behaviour based on information from within the Ajah doc. Again, I point out that powers don't matter if not used in a pro-Village way. Information and reads are usually much more important. A lot of players simply won't fire off their One Power in a constructive way and that's just a sad reality to do with the limited information we're working on when making our decision. Sure, power roles have made gamechanging decisions before, e.g. good saves, or Ash smiting TUN, but there have been just as many that've fizzled. Making sense of kill decisions based on Ajah-mate info (rather than Ajah colour) is really helpful at trying to sensemake where the Black Ajah are on NKA. I've noticed in almost all doc games of this sort I've played so far, the Elims generally refused to kill in docs where they were, preferring to try to pocket their docmates instead. This was true of LG84, LG7 (my doc remained untouched for quite a while because we were infiltrated), and true of the LG84 rerun I ran in December, where the Elims kept killing in the clean teams, which the Village really should've taken as a sign. Now that I've said it, of course they can choose to swerve or throw a curveball, but that's the nature of NKA for you. Some of it has to be combined with reads and tactical assessment. And yeah sorry Ash, but I know you do tend to slip under the radar at times. I trust V!you on NKA, and I think getting you to NKA means we can work out if it's V!you or E!you. I will RP after this I swear. P.S. Anyone interested in an impromptu game to pass the Night?

I mean, let's be realistic, given the fact the NK finds me intensely attractive, I'm pretty sure we'll find out pretty soon one way or another. Though, you of all people I expect should be able to read me faster than the others. ...Or, I guess we could go another episode where you doubt my god-tier bro reads, that's fine with me too Kas told u the truth and u stabbed him for it no lies (Not really bothered about it, but I have to keep ribbing Drake for the time he stabbed me because he thought I was too fast to V read him. Turns out I'm just that good when it comes to my bros /lh /j) I vote u for Sitter of the Amazing Technicolour Dream Ajah unless more people join us ...Fair. It's definitely possible it's a quick correction, but really my experience with that kind of reaction fishing is that it's more rare for Elims to take what they think is intuitively an anti-Village view - they're more inclined to be safe, and I think that both the set-up from everyone plus the way it was being framed incentivises (if reacting, I'm sure some could just as easily ignore it) going to the safety / don't claim side. Which is why I could see one Elim in the people who responded, but also /shrug. Yeah, not particularly strong but it's a starting point worth noting. I think the main read I did get from it is a weak V lean on you - as I said, you're screwy enough with contrarian instincts as Elim that I could see you deliberately make the opposite push regardless. But I feel good enough ascribing the weak V lean for now and trusting myself to correct over time if you're, you know, pretty damn Evil. You can't N0 me anyway so you're going to have to put up with me for at least a cycle Edited to add: I will say also I do think there's something slightly tonally off about Steel, but I also don't super feel confident in tired!Kas's ability to pick up on it. More noting this for myself to revisit tomorrow when less exhausted. I kind of think Steel was less pushy than Jo and Gaea and that sticks out to me as an outlier.

smhhh husko brain cell Can you say a bit more about this? Sweet, the thread is now our bootleg Ajah doc at home (Are we actually literally allowed to make a public Google doc here for lulz?) Based sir Marsha of the Amazing Technicolour Dream Ajah ...What? Why are you booing me, I'm a traditionalist

You'd be surprised. It's usually useful as a litmus test for basic reads or a very, very soft reaction test because Elims tend to over-camp in what they intuitively take to be Village responses. Opening the anon voting discussion is pretty much guaranteed to be a goldmine in this case. In your case though, you're screwy enough that while I do want to V!lean you for your response, I can't support that position in a strong way. Still, sure, why not. For now: Party Bin: Worldhopper Drake Exe Bin: Everyone else Edited to add: Jo can be a Partygoer too.

It's basically a doc (rather than a thread) where people hang out to chat, speculate about the game, comment on it, and just chill. As players die, they'll be added to the doc. It's the GM's discretion on whether or not to keep the doc spoiler-lite, but usually what we do is we have a bit of a game where the doc stays spoiler-lite but each spectators and dead player can ask the GM one question and receive an honest answer. Big asks early in the game usually get trolled or just declined, small/clever asks are fine, so it encourages people to stay engaged with the flow of the game/to try to solve together, even when dead. But it can also be chill!