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Kurkistan

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  1. Conclusion 1: Someone voting for Wes is the Rioter. Conclusion 2: While Peng should have chimed in to at least say that we should really vote for Wes, I think we can all agree that toeing the line would have resulted in our Coinshot not dying. EDIT: Conclusion 3: Wes should still die? It seems the Inquisitor might have Soothed to save him.
  2. We know he can only use one at a time, but I also want to know how many "actions" he has per night. Can he kill people for free, or does that take the place of converting, or maybe is it even a power all it's own?
  3. To be even more cold, mistings are still more valuable than regular players, so better to kill one of them than a misting. Even a Smoker, traditionally a rather annoying role for Seekers to deal with, has his uses for Team Good.
  4. My apologies if someone in the thread already mentioned this, but I just thought I'd drop in some WoB: The full Lashing "does have to do with pressure."
  5. I fully support that approach. But the day is short and Peng is offline, so we don't have time today. Tomorrow for sure: we'll make a day of it and spend 24 hours lobbying for Peng to pick X or Y to kill, then abide by it when he decides.
  6. Oops, so he did. Bye bye, Wes. Why art thou going against the will of the Mistborn, Praise the Ja?
  7. "You knew I liked her and you stole her out from under my nose! Praise the Ja!" "Ahem." Kurkistan turned to Wes. "While I can respect a healthy sense of self-preservation, might I remind you that none but the EVIL have reason to lodge a vote before Peng?" Praise the Ja
  8. I'd say we boil this thing down a bit: No one votes until Peng does, and then everyone votes as he does. We can offer thoughts and advice and whatnot, but the vote of each and every one of us at the end of the day should be the same as Peng's. The only names in red should be the ones he says. I say this because only Peng can be trusted not to have some agenda or be trying to split the vote or the like. --- On that note, I am a bit suspicious of Dyring at this point. His arguments/questions against trusting Peng may well have been genuine, but they could also be he desperate attempts of the Inquisitor to stop this coalition. If Peng disagrees, then he can just say so without needing to state his reasoning. Ours is a silent king. this lets him make decis ions without the inquisitor being able to sniff out the roles/PM's that may or may not have motivated them.
  9. Brandon read it once, so I would guess that he's using the right melody (to the extent that he sings it). No offense to Brandon, but I imagine that you might sing it a bit better. Link (mp3, lullaby starts at ~4:30).
  10. Note: "season 1" means "arc 1", as there's technically one season with two rather distinct halves and... yeah. You'll know when you get there.
  11. Huh, I hadn't noticed that that was the same VA. It's obvious now that you mention it. It gets less depressing.
  12. Okay, my fuzzy memory of Elantris terminology has betrayed me here, and I apologize for the suffering it has brought everyone. For the sake of clarity, please ignore everything else I have said, as I now abandon proper terminology and speak like a small child: I have been arguing that, based on these quotes, that following the formation of the Chasm and Elantris not having the right lines to complete its Aon, those who had been or became zombie-Elantrians had the bond to their glowing light thingies cut. As to your new quote (which I, to add to my list of failures, did not read properly the first go-round), it seems to stand in direct opposition to my own, which is odd. It may be, then, that the best way to reconcile the two is to claim that my quote, that claims the bond is broken, is an over-simplification, and that, in fact, your quote more completely describes the process. Alternatively, your new quote could be interpreted as the "messing up" of the Seons being a simple and direct consequence of the bond being severed. At first blush, though, this seems an unnatural interpretation. Please feel free to yell at me if I've managed to continue being unclear and confusing.
  13. Actually, that's how I interpret that quote too. I said "Shaod" by accident, and meant Reod.
  14. Right you are. The point stands once I correct the term, though.
  15. @Quiver We still have a Tineye, so just PM Peng and cc Meta on it. @Meta Rules question: Does team-evil get to kill someone as a free action every night, or does it require the Inquisitor to use a power? Similarly, can the Inquisitor both kill and convert in the same night?
  16. Well thanks for not suspecting me. I agree with your conclusion about Peng, also. I've sent him my role. The Seeker would have said something by now if he wasn't kosher. Even if we find out an hour from now that he's EVIL, we can still take him down in the vote/in the night; as I think it unlikely that he is, I want to maximize the information available to our only trustworthy player so that he can guide us towards a Inquisitor-less future. At this point, really, anyone who doesn't send Peng a PM with their real role is suspicious. If he knows everyone, then he can coordinate our efforts from behind the scenes and maybe sniff out a few of the more suspicious players.
  17. Sorry, but I think you're a bit off in your conclusions. The bond is actually broken by the Shaod Reod. Maybe it auto-reestablished when the city-Aon was repaired, but the Seons were bond-less, not just bonded to "a mind [not] born of this realm". Here's some more quotes on sentience, by the way, as you're interested in it. http://www.17thshard.com/forum/topic/2383-qa-with-brandon-sanderson/page-7?p=42374#entry42374 - Kandra http://www.theoryland.com/intvmain.php?i=836#26 - Syl EDIT: Fixed link.
  18. The Inquisitor could have killed Weiry the "normal" way while using some other power, such as possibly Smoking Peng. Alternativley, if Peng is the Inquisitor, he could be taking a gamble (for some reason) and have used Steel and not Copper last night: this would let a Seeker out him. So far as confirmation of Peng planning to kill Lam goes, you don't really need anyone else. He PM'd me beforehand, so that's 1 and that's actually enough, since there can't be 2 evil players at this point. Beyond that, he told the Tineye and bartbug. EDIT: *Sees your edit* The rules tell us that the Mistborn cannot ever be converted, so the worst case scenario is Peng dying and taking all our secrets to his grave. That's kind of the point of this whole "can we trust him?: if so: AWESOME" business.
  19. No, I mean that Peng PM'd me during the night and said "I'm Coinshooting Lam". Actually, it is 100% certain that the Inquisitor can only use 1 power at a time. Source: So the Inquisitor cannot possibly have both Coinshot Lam and Smoked himself, for instance. If any Seeker comes forward and says "Peng was Smoked the Inquisitor!", then we will know 100% that either Peng or that Seeker(?) is the Inquisitor. -Actually, question to Meta: Does the Inquisitor use one power per turn (so one in the day, possibly a different one in the night) or one power per cycle? I think Peng is quite low-suspicion at this time, actually. If any Seeker comes forward and say's Peng read as an Inquisitor last night, then we'll know one of those 2 is Mr. Evil. If not, then we know that Peng is legit. I can agree with all these, though I think people should start PM'ing him their roles if we don't get a Seeker saying "he's EVIL!" fairly soon. EDIT: Big change, I accidentally said that at Seeker saying Peng was Smoked would prove his Inquisitorial status. This is not the case.
  20. Okay then. Too bad about the Lurcher, good thing we probably have spares. So do we all trust Peng now? He called his shot (I was one of the people he told). All that remains is a Seeker saying something if things are fishy. If Peng was Smoked, then he couldn't have both used Copper and called Lam's death, so he's legit. If he wasn't Smoked, then the Seeker knows his allegiance. --- So I guess we wait a few hours, then if no one objects we start PM'ing Peng to tell him our roles/suspicions?
  21. I will acknowledge that it's not a direct case of "obviously this means muggles can tap!!!!", but I think the underlying theoretical framework that we've developed supports it.
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