Chaos

Blightsong's parenthetical is still correct. It's after humans arrived on Roshar, which is post-Shattering. There is no evidence humans were there pre-Shattering on Roshar, which is why we had to add that parenthetical. Where did you ask that question, so we can input it in the correct event? Humans have been on Roshar for a long time. Desolations occurred for a very long time and so there's plenty of room for the intermixing to occur.

You just need to flag them. This happens in waves and then the IPS spam service figures it out. Nothing out of the ordinary.

I'm going to move this to General Brandon Discussion. My secret: I really hated Sixth of Dusk.

Regarding posts with high amounts of upvotes: that really isn't a reflection of the change in downvotes but purely a matter of activity. Downvotes were not often used to lower a 7 to a 6.

Just paste the link. YouTube will autoembed.

Reminder: this thread is not tagged with OB spoilers and so such info is not allowed here.

Noted, but if people seriously look and think we're promoting Nazi ideology, I think that's dramatically short sighted of them.

https://coppermind.net/wiki/Aon#Seo It is not a swastika. I may work on the Aons eventually but they don't all render as a font well, and many would have no meaning to a redirect thing. Loyalty and Service do fit Arcanum and a redirect.

I could maybe change it, but I feel like you could also send your anger to Brandon for drawing that Aon.

I'm curious how people feel this has changed discourse on the forums in the past week or two. Good? Bad? There's always pros and cons, so I'm curious what people think.

Ah, gotcha. There have been times where images upload and they turn up blank, and I don't know why that happens. If that does, you know where to find me

Email me the pictures at [email protected]. Sometimes this has issues and I don't know why

I reread the Beta AMA and I don't think it's nearly as extreme as you are making it out to be, but... okay. His emails are read, but few are responded to. They are read.

That is exactly what happens as well. There will be some duplicate info: https://coppermind.net/wiki/Order_of_Windrunners#Powers

There's more to the fandom than 17th Shard (as much as I wish it weren't true!), and they are chosen from a wide variety of places and involvement, as you can see from the beta AMA. However, you should really leave your anger/distaste towards Brandon, as he tells the story he wants to tell. Sometimes he will change things, sometimes he won't. These things you mention were brought up, and in particular the romance was brought up a huge amount. Brandon will tell the story he wants. I would encourage you to bring it up with him sometime. You can always email him, or see him at an event. But really, betas are hardly all powerful.

I mean, superfans have lots of very strong opinions on feelings and emotions too and the arc of the story, but I do see your point.

It is definitely vastly more diverse than your pool of Sharders.

I do have very high bars for what it means to be a superfan, though But I did feel like there were a ton of casual fans in the beta.

It's not even "not all are superfans". Most are not superfans. They are there to give a wide variety of perspectives, and they definitely did. They do do things like you mention, but the majority are not superfans. Few of them are hardcore Sharder people (like, uh, the Sharders in the Acknowledgements). You never really saw the actual critiques that occurred; a lot of the beta "reactions" that were posted were much more of the emotional reactions, for funsies. There were much more in depth commentary than raw reactions like that, and very profound critiques. There were parts where people wrote very long essays on things in the document. (I wrote one that was 2000 words. On what, I couldn't say.) And even at the end of the book when we got all five parts, many wrote very long full book debriefings about a huge variety of things. Again, guys, the word count of our beta commentary was longer than 500k words. A ton was mentioned.

I imagine he'll get to the Philippines someday, or near there. Or you could always come to a release party But "someday" is a long time!

I will say this: many of the scenes that went "missing" or weren't touched on were brought up. They definitely were, on a great many scenes. I'd also say that many betas were much more casual fans than, say, me or other Sharders. Many are much more casual readers, and though we can't talk about it, there are people who disagreed with stuff on stuff that was or was not changed. Brandon ultimately tells the story he wants to tell.

Autonomy's aspects can have a wide variety of goals and desires. This is a totally new thing with that second letter in OB so I don't know how much we can say there about it specifically.

Okay, we're reopening this topic. Is everyone chilled out now? No? Well, if you don't want to be chill, then just don't respond in the thread. We're not having any condescension towards people who like Adolin, or towards people who dislike Adolin, or anything other characters. I am well aware people have very strong opinions, but I want everyone to look at their posts and say, "am I coming on too strong?" If so, go and revise it. Opinions are not fact. You don't get to attack anyone. If you must attack something, attack opinions, but do so with grace and humility. If you see someone being a jerk, report the post and go have a drink of your beverage of choice. Do not go and say "I definitely want to have the last word!" No more attacking. I will be upset if any such things continue, and I will likely just hand out short-term suspensions for people where relevant. Let's take everything from a 9/10 and de-escalate everything to a 1/10.

Can I tag this thread with Oathbringer spoilers, @DJScrub? I want to say some things on this but it's pretty important to have stuff there.