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Shardcast: White Sand Omnibus


The White Sand Omnibus is here, and so it's time for another episode of Shardcast where we go into extensive detail on things. There's character stuff, lore stuff, talking about the Indiegogo failure, as well as astrophysics and complex cosmere stuff. Oh, and infesting sand! This is a very weird and extremely nerdy episode, even for us.

We have Eric (Chaos), David (Windrunner), Evgeni (Argent), and Joshua (jofwu)!

If you want to buy White Sand Omnibus, you can here: https://www.dynamite.com/htmlfiles/viewProduct.html?PRO=C132295
Our previous Volume 1 show: https://youtu.be/L59oE3-IMTA
Our previous Volume 2 show: https://youtu.be/lnrlp3OFW2w
Our previous Volume 3 show: https://youtu.be/ZFyh_w-Q5UM
Astronomy Ars Arcanum page: https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/brandon-sanderson-s-white-sand-graphic-novel#/updates/9
Peter's comment on Dynamite: https://www.reddit.com/r/brandonsanderson/comments/vd1hxn/white_sand_omnibus_update_first_run_not_expected/ici6bac/?context=3

00:00 Intro and News 
4:22 What's New / Overview
13:06 Indiegogo Disaster
29:35 Khriss Prologue, New Content & Changes
1:07:15 Ars Arcanum: Map
1:15:56 Astronomy
1:27:53 Sand Masters, Aethers, Sandlings 
1:41:32 Kerzta, Sand Master Origins
1:47:44 Professions, Assassins
1:50:56 Sand Mastery on Darkside, Khriss Sand Experiments
2:04:51 Sand Mastery, Starmarks Connection, Faces in Sand
2:14:36 Sand Mastery Test
2:27:58 Sand Mastery Observations
2:31:42 Energy of the Unseen World
2:36:16 White Sand Prose, Sequels

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O well, you have not touched the big question. Is it worth it, if you already have the three previous ones?

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Really enjoyed this episode! I recieved my copy of the omnibus last night, so I had a blast flipping through the pages with Y'all's discussion.

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Would it make sense if Bavadin was an Aether or an Aetherbound of note? The idea of granting your powers to other people but still having them be a part of you sounds A LOT like how Aether's work. Aethers also have a fluid identity that incorporates and individual and autonomous aspects, so this all sounds a lot like an Aether to me. Could also explain why there appears to be Aether-like aspects to the magic without it actually being a known Aether. 

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If we assume that Bone Spores are indeed White Sand, I don't think it's truly a 13th Aether- that's comparable to how Rosharans would be see a Seon, I think. Seons are cognitive beings that form bonds with humans and the humans get a magical benefit out of that, so a Rosharan might be tempted to call them an 11th variety of Radiant Spren, but that's not really what they are.

Similarly, I think White Sand is similar to Aether because it's operating on the same underlying principles, but it's not quite the same thing. Like White Sand relies on an external power source but recharges quite easily, while an Aether spore seems to having an internal but finite amount of power. 

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On 2/13/2023 at 3:04 AM, Oltux72 said:

O well, you have not touched the big question. Is it worth it, if you already have the three previous ones?

I think the answer to that will vary wildly by person, so it's difficult to answer. It's a function of how much you like the story, how much you might like the changes (I think everyone would agree it was changed for the better, but not everyone would agree on the extent to which those changes improve the story), how those opinions translate to money you're willing to spend, how much a published prose version in the coming years might change the equation for you, etc.

In my opinion, definitely worth it.

On 2/14/2023 at 0:17 PM, Gilphon said:

I don't think it's truly a 13th Aether

Strongly agree.

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