Shardcast: The Knights Radiant #3

Long-time lurker, first time posting.

About the Bondsmith/Willshaper Tension/Cohesion thing: Peter shed a bit of light on this. The Stormfather was wrong.

So the Stoneward’s ability to warp the rock into the stairs. Is that only possible because they have both Cohesion and Tension? Cohesion to make it flexible first and Tension to harden it back up? Or would a Willshaper be able to do that with just Cohesion?

How is Honor's Perpendicularity related to the Highstorms?

Dalinar used adhesion to stick the broken statue pieces together, then used tension to take their loose connections and make them solid.

About 20 minutes into the podcast your whole "Deliberate in the use of knowledge" segment gave me serious Horoscope/Zodiac Sign vibes. Somebody should make a KR Horoscope, which you can use based off the order you are.

7 hours ago, Emerald_Cross said:

How is Honor's Perpendicularity related to the Highstorms?

It’s speculation, but there is a WoB saying Honor’s perpendicularity moves and the Highstorms are associated with Honor and full of his investiture. The Highstorms aren’t the perpendicularity but connected.

https://wob.coppermind.net/events/36/#e1525

About Ivory, I love how he speaks and I kind of thought that it was just how inkspren talk in general. Kind of "is" or "is not" as in "black" or "white". It would be cool if the two black and white spren at the Oathgate were both inkspren (or white-out spren, ha). Now I really want to hear other inkspren speak to see if they speak differently...

I thoroughly enjoyed this miniseries of episodes on The Knights Radiant! Listening to it while drawing was great so thank you for the good work and keep at it

As to the entire which surge debate.  Why could the Stoneward not have been using both when making the stairs?

8 hours ago, Karger said:

As to the entire which surge debate.  Why could the Stoneward not have been using both when making the stairs?

The way it's been described, Cohesion makes things soft (Put your hand in stone and make a handprint) and Tension makes things rigid (Turning cloth into a blade or a pool noodle into a deadly bludgeon). Make stairs in stone would only be using the Cohesion surge as it would be making the stone soft, reshaping it, then you would only need to stop using Cohesion for the stairs to go back to stone. You wouldn't require any Tension.

I had headcanon'd it to them both being used to mold the stone from a distance (Micro tensions and softenings to cause movements, like how a worm or a snake moves) but Dragonsteel confirmed it to be a mistake so yeah, it's a mistake.

6 hours ago, Overlord Jebus said:

I had headcanon'd it to them both being used to mold the stone from a distance (Micro tensions and softenings to cause movements, like how a worm or a snake moves) but Dragonsteel confirmed it to be a mistake so yeah, it's a mistake.

I meant as an in world solution.  Such clumsiness was pretty obviously a mistake.

I think Brandon/Peter have been emphatic that Cohesion = make rocky into goop = a Willshaper thing. (i.e., Stormfather was wrong)

@Pagerunner has a fantastic analysis of Cohesion and Tension here:

I've added some opinions of my own just now about what Dalinar was doing in the scene with the temple/statue. (among other things) Too long to post here, so you'll have to read it there if interested.

Fun fact: timbre is a French word. That is why the spelling is confusing for English speakers . 

1 hour ago, Singer said:

Fun fact: timbre is a French word. That is why the spelling is confusing for English speakers . 

To be honest I’m like David and say Tim-bree

oops

8 minutes ago, Heir-of-Vax said:

To be honest I’m like David and say Tim-bree

oops

That's a very natural way to read that word in English. It just makes my music nerd self happy to see a very musical word associated with a Singer's spren!

On 4/28/2019 at 5:56 PM, Karger said:

As to the entire which surge debate.  Why could the Stoneward not have been using both when making the stairs?

This is how I read that passage. The stoneward used cohesion to soften the stone and tension to harden it again so it could be stepped on. So technically the Stormfather would be correct in saying that tension is used in changing the stone, and that it would work differently for Dalinar. 

Is it possible, just maybe have you all considered, that maybe Brandon has thought about this more than you all have and that maybe you just don't understand how Brandon means for Cohesion and Tension to function as magical powers in his book series about people with magical powers. You are taking a single sentence answer from Brandon, a set of magical stairs seen from a distance, and a fixed statue and assuming you understand exactly how Brandon has made a mistake.