Pandora's shard Posted February 4, 2021 Report Share Posted February 4, 2021 Rythm of war was supposed to be willshapers' book. But, as it turned out, venli as a character was quite underwhelming. Rythm of war is actually Navani's book, with venli as one of the side characters.. But, I have this feeling that willshaper magic... Is it really that awesome?? What is the magic again? Shaping stone? So, the whole aim of willshapers' is to build fancy houses? Is willshaping a totally non-warrior magic? Or is it just a defensive branch of magic, where the best that can be done is raise big walls against enemies? If there was a warrior willshaper, how would she/he use willshaping during war? Others attack by shards, and they deflect it by stone grown suddenly as a blade? What do you think guys? Will it be awesome? Or will it just remain a plot point where cities were built using willshapers', and then that's it? How can you use willshaping during war? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingsdaughter613 Posted February 4, 2021 Report Share Posted February 4, 2021 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Pandora's shard said: Rythm of war was supposed to be willshapers' book. But, as it turned out, venli as a character was quite underwhelming. Rythm of war is actually Navani's book, with venli as one of the side characters.. But, I have this feeling that willshaper magic... Is it really that awesome?? What is the magic again? Shaping stone? So, the whole aim of willshapers' is to build fancy houses? Is willshaping a totally non-warrior magic? Or is it just a defensive branch of magic, where the best that can be done is raise big walls against enemies? If there was a warrior willshaper, how would she/he use willshaping during war? Others attack by shards, and they deflect it by stone grown suddenly as a blade? What do you think guys? Will it be awesome? Or will it just remain a plot point where cities were built using willshapers', and then that's it? How can you use willshaping during war? Roshar is mostly Stone. So pull a Moshe on Korach and open the mouth of the earth... then seal it tight. Edited February 4, 2021 by Kingsdaughter613 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Bzhydack Posted February 4, 2021 Report Share Posted February 4, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Pandora's shard said: Rythm of war was supposed to be willshapers' book. But, as it turned out, venli as a character was quite underwhelming. Rythm of war is actually Navani's book, with venli as one of the side characters.. But, I have this feeling that willshaper magic... Is it really that awesome?? What is the magic again? Shaping stone? So, the whole aim of willshapers' is to build fancy houses? Is willshaping a totally non-warrior magic? Or is it just a defensive branch of magic, where the best that can be done is raise big walls against enemies? If there was a warrior willshaper, how would she/he use willshaping during war? Others attack by shards, and they deflect it by stone grown suddenly as a blade? What do you think guys? Will it be awesome? Or will it just remain a plot point where cities were built using willshapers', and then that's it? How can you use willshaping during war? I think you underestimate importance of area-control. There are engenieers and sappers in military for reason. In one-v-one fight willshaper can immobilize oponent, drowning his feet in stone (Weve seen thin - Amaram vs Kaladin). Can build temporar walls agains projectiles, can (probably) make himself clasic fantasy stone-skin. . But Willshaper will SHINE as support. Can rise hills for archers, walls against enemy archers, moats full of sharp rocks against infantry or cavalry, mold ground under enemys formation feet, open chasms to restrict manuvers, make bridges, ramps, stairs for troops, smooth ground before cavalry charge, even make roofs against flying enemis. Also, Willshaper has second power, Transportation. Ability to transport troops to Shadesmar is insanly powerfull. Edited February 4, 2021 by Bzhydack 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mathiau Posted February 4, 2021 Report Share Posted February 4, 2021 Did the Pursuer seemed underpowered to any of you? Well, that's your answer. 5 minutes ago, Bzhydack said: probably) make himself clasic fantasy stone-skin. . That'd probably be a use of Tension and not Cohesion. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanLemon Posted February 4, 2021 Report Share Posted February 4, 2021 2 hours ago, mathiau said: Did the Pursuer seemed underpowered to any of you? Well, that's your answer. That'd probably be a use of Tension and not Cohesion. Stoneward rock men 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halyo_Alex Posted February 4, 2021 Report Share Posted February 4, 2021 4 hours ago, StanLemon said: Stoneward rock men Peakspren: "Be more like me" 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AquaRegia Posted February 5, 2021 Report Share Posted February 5, 2021 I'm in agreement with @Kingsdaughter613 and @Bzhydack. At some point I expect we will see an entire enemy army sunk armpit-deep in solid stone. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elerosse Posted February 5, 2021 Report Share Posted February 5, 2021 I think it's more of "we didn't see enough to know" as opposed to "they weak". I mean, are Stonewards weak? Are Releasers? How about Truthwatchers? We don't know much about them. Its possible they are pretty weak, at least one of their surges, but if you extrapolate, being able to shape stone is pretty strong, and Venli is just getting started. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halyo_Alex Posted February 5, 2021 Report Share Posted February 5, 2021 3 hours ago, Elerosse said: Venli is just getting started This is important. I mean, when we first saw Kaladin surgebind at all, he was sticking rocks to walls and making arrows hit his shield, not flying around like superman. Venli will learn, with time. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valigus Posted February 6, 2021 Report Share Posted February 6, 2021 Each order does something different thing is that we are used to are the very combative orders gravitation is the best combat surge hands down that we have seen, the mobility is insanely good, transportation seems to be the priamryvwillshaper surge like adhesion is primary for windrunners so we may see it’s full potential soon, but some surges rn do seem weaker like windrunner adhesion 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mathiau Posted February 6, 2021 Report Share Posted February 6, 2021 Just now, Valigus said: Each order does something different thing is that we are used to are the very combative orders gravitation is the best combat surge hands down that we have seen, the mobility is insanely good, transportation seems to be the priamryvwillshaper surge like adhesion is primary for windrunners so we may see it’s full potential soon, but some surges rn do seem weaker like windrunner adhesion Windrunners have never used adhesion to it's full potential, they should be able to control the wind with it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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