+Lotus she/her Posted January 16, 2021 Posted January 16, 2021 Just now, Illwei said: What do you mean by that? If we kill lotus then the potential brown Ajah no longer has their powers. @Lotus you said an hour before, so you still here? I think if they gave you permission then you should name drop. then they can verify themselves. Yep I'm here for another hour. It's Burnt Spaghetti. I don't know if they are still awake though.
Illwei Posted January 16, 2021 Posted January 16, 2021 (edited) 1 minute ago, Lotus said: It's Burnt Spaghetti. I don't know if they are still awake though. eeeeeeeeeeeeeeee (I see their discord status online burnt it's like 2 am or something) Edited January 16, 2021 by Illwei
James Brafin he/him Posted January 16, 2021 Posted January 16, 2021 1 minute ago, Illwei said: *narrows eyes* Hey hey hey a little healthy suspicion is good for your health! just so long as people remember that I'm probably suspicious because I'm uncaring of how I'm presenting myself :P. What do you mean by that? If we kill lotus then the potential brown Ajah no longer has their powers. @Lotus you said an hour before, so you still here? I think if they gave you permission then you should name drop. then they can verify themselves. Oh wait shoot what That's... I don't like that. Discussion for another time though. 1 minute ago, Lotus said: Yep I'm here for another hour. It's Burnt Spaghetti. I don't know if they are still awake though. I... don't know that I buy this. But I'll give it benefit of the doubt; @Burnt Spaghetti, are you still awake?
Illwei Posted January 16, 2021 Posted January 16, 2021 Just now, James Brafin said: That's... I don't like that. Discussion for another time though. Which part? healthy suspicion or lotus? :P.
Quintessential she/her Posted January 16, 2021 Posted January 16, 2021 1 minute ago, Lotus said: It's Burnt Spaghetti. I don't know if they are still awake though. @Burnt Spaghetti Please confirm. However I'm going to assume that Lotus is telling the truth, since @James Brafin the other possibility is that both are elims and that's a bit... tinfoily without further evidence. So, if we're assuming one elim and one village Brown Ajah (which admittedly may or may not be the case) that means one of the two is elim... and of course, the two Browns are both somewhat under suspicion right now, because obviously this couldn't be easy Er... idk I don't like either of them. I have no idea who to vote.
Illwei Posted January 16, 2021 Posted January 16, 2021 Just now, Quinn0928 said: Er... idk I don't like either of them. I have no idea who to vote. Come vote striker with me :P.
James Brafin he/him Posted January 16, 2021 Posted January 16, 2021 (edited) An Ajah losing their powers if their Warder dies. It makes sense for the Warder to lose their powers if the Ajah dies, but the other way around? I guess flavorwise their must be a reason, but it feels so weird? Again, discussion for another time though. I'd be happier with a Burnt shrek than a Dannex shrek. Sorry, Burnt <3 Edited January 16, 2021 by James Brafin No doubleposting
Quintessential she/her Posted January 16, 2021 Posted January 16, 2021 Just now, James Brafin said: An Ajah losing their powers if their Warder dies. It makes sense for the Warder to lose their powers if the Ajah dies, but the other way around? I guess flavorwise their must be a reason, but it feels so weird? Again, discussion for another time though. Likely for balance (though I haven't read the books so I don't know how weird an idea it is). (and I've also never GMd or actually wrote a functional game so idk how balancing works either XD)
Illwei Posted January 16, 2021 Posted January 16, 2021 Just now, Quinn0928 said: Likely for balance (though I haven't read the books so I don't know how weird an idea it is). (and I've also never GMd or actually wrote a functional game so idk how balancing works either XD) Just now, James Brafin said: An Ajah losing their powers if their Warder dies. It makes sense for the Warder to lose their powers if the Ajah dies, but the other way around? I guess flavorwise their must be a reason, but it feels so weird? Again, discussion for another time though. Which I think this mechanic is a slight elim buff, as they can easily use this excuse to defend someone, and we'll probably see more defenses between pairs that would look like Elims trying to protect when it's just the Ajah/Warder/(warder) groups trying to keep powers.
James Brafin he/him Posted January 16, 2021 Posted January 16, 2021 1 minute ago, Quinn0928 said: Likely for balance (though I haven't read the books so I don't know how weird an idea it is). (and I've also never GMd or actually wrote a functional game so idk how balancing works either XD) 1 minute ago, Illwei said: Which I think this mechanic is a slight elim buff, as they can easily use this excuse to defend someone, and we'll probably see more defenses between pairs that would look like Elims trying to protect when it's just the Ajah/Warder/(warder) groups trying to keep powers. Spoiler 1
+Lotus she/her Posted January 16, 2021 Posted January 16, 2021 3 minutes ago, James Brafin said: An Ajah losing their powers if their Warder dies. It makes sense for the Warder to lose their powers if the Ajah dies, but the other way around? I guess flavorwise their must be a reason, but it feels so weird? Again, discussion for another time though. It somewhat makes sense. Actually, if we're going off the books a Warder should die if their Aes Sedai dies, and the Aes Sedai should just get a couple-cycle reduction in power, but I think for game wise it works better this way.
Quintessential she/her Posted January 16, 2021 Posted January 16, 2021 Just now, Lotus said: It somewhat makes sense. Actually, if we're going off the books a Warder should die if their Aes Sedai dies, and the Aes Sedai should just get a couple-cycle reduction in power, but I think for game wise it works better this way. (I started reading WoT a while back and got bored... rather quickly, but I think playing this game has restored my interest in the series XD so I'll eventually read it... after rereading all of the cosmere... it may be a while : P)
Illwei Posted January 16, 2021 Posted January 16, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Lotus said: It somewhat makes sense. Actually, if we're going off the books a Warder should die if their Aes Sedai dies, and the Aes Sedai should just get a couple-cycle reduction in power, but I think for game wise it works better this way. One-way-lovers sounds like an awful game mechanic lmao glad that's not the case. though that would definitely give the elims more incentive to actually target the Aes Sedai instead of warders. EDIT: Just now, Quinn0928 said: (I started reading WoT a while back and got bored... rather quickly, but I think playing this game has restored my interest in the series XD so I'll eventually read it... after rereading all of the cosmere... it may be a while : P) Psh, rereading the cosmere? that's like, a weeks worth of reading ;). Edited January 16, 2021 by Illwei
Mat he/him Posted January 16, 2021 Posted January 16, 2021 25 minutes ago, James Brafin said: Also, another thought: I need to deep-dive Dice at some point. If I remember my notes correctly, I was concerned from the very beginning that they were trying pretty hard to fly under the radar, and then just let them do it all game. I thought maybe they were the Green Ajah for a while as well, but that's not right obviously, and there's a decent possibility that Dice is Elim. If there's one thing I don't try to do in any alignment, it's fly under the radar :P. 14 minutes ago, Quinn0928 said: Look at the VC again and tell me you still want it that spread out : P A fair argument lol 11 minutes ago, Lotus said: Yep I'm here for another hour. It's Burnt Spaghetti. I don't know if they are still awake though. ...... ..................... Would the other brown really claim knowing that the general agreement was one good one evil? Why would Burnt be good with this? Vil Burnt: Not really any harm bc lots of people think Dannex is bad, therefore claiming is fine Elim Burnt: Lots of people think one elim brown! and a lot of people suspect this one brown! Me claiming makes sense! yay! See, it doesn't make sense :P. So I'm leaving my vote on Quinn.
Quintessential she/her Posted January 16, 2021 Posted January 16, 2021 1 minute ago, Illwei said: One-way-lovers sounds like an awful game mechanic lmao glad that's not the case. though that would definitely give the elims more incentive to actually target the Aes Sedai instead of warders. EDIT: Psh, rereading the cosmere? that's like, a weeks worth of reading ;). Only if you don't sleep! Or eat! let alone write scholarship essays : P senior year of high school sucks. Also, I've never actually played a game with a lovers mechanic, here or anywhere else. How... does that work exactly?
James Brafin he/him Posted January 16, 2021 Posted January 16, 2021 (edited) Okay real talk though, assuming all this is true, I *still* don't think Dannex is the optimal Shrek here. Bare minimum, it's Burnt, since it tells us something about Lotus as well; More realistically, I don't know we should be voting in the Brown Ajah at all. The main problem is if we don't hear back from Burnt in like 20 mintues we are going to have to make a decision. Burnt, where are you? Edit: Wait hold up What's stopping Elim from just shooting Lotus in the night and taking away Burnt's powers anyways? There's no way that this makes sense! Edited January 16, 2021 by James Brafin No doubleposting
Quintessential she/her Posted January 16, 2021 Posted January 16, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Matrim's Dice said: Would the other brown really claim knowing that the general agreement was one good one evil? Why would Burnt be good with this? Vil Burnt: Not really any harm bc lots of people think Dannex is bad, therefore claiming is fine Elim Burnt: Lots of people think one elim brown! and a lot of people suspect this one brown! Me claiming makes sense! yay! See, it doesn't make sense :P. So I'm leaving my vote on Quinn. Yes, the other Brown would claim. If you're the (not outed) village Brown and you see that another Brown claim and you see and believe the arguments that there's one Brown of each alignment, and then people start saying "hey we should exe Lotus" when Lotus is your Warder, you realize that if you don't claim then the village could lose its only Brown. The fact that Burnt agreed to this means that she likely doesn't have another Warder, btw. (and I'm assuming she did because it would be super risky for Lotus to do this otherwise--Burnt would catch her in the lie). Edited January 16, 2021 by Quinn0928
Illwei Posted January 16, 2021 Posted January 16, 2021 1 minute ago, Quinn0928 said: Also, I've never actually played a game with a lovers mechanic, here or anywhere else. How... does that work exactly? If one person dies, then the other dies as well. sometimes fun add-ons but that's the gist of it. Both of TJ's games kiiiinda play on that, with this you losing powers and the spren game the Radiant goes insane. Tj likes his bond mechanics. 1 minute ago, James Brafin said: Okay real talk though, assuming all this is true, I *still* don't think Dannex is the optimal Shrek here. Bare minimum, it's Burnt, since it tells us something about Lotus as well; More realistically, I don't know we should be voting in the Brown Ajah at all. The main problem is if we don't hear back from Burnt in like 20 mintues we are going to have to make a decision. Burnt, where are you? I'm still not sure I'd want to vote burnt completely. Why does this feel like we're still in day one eeeeee it also is like, 2am for her I think, but...it's not like she's slept at normal times any other day O.o
Quintessential she/her Posted January 16, 2021 Posted January 16, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, James Brafin said: What's stopping Elim from just shooting Lotus in the night and taking away Burnt's powers anyways? There's no way that this makes sense! Well presumably their plan was to ask for protection. Edit: @Illwei it feels like D1 because no one died to the vote D1, so we can't actually analyze people's votes. Edited January 16, 2021 by Quinn0928
Mat he/him Posted January 16, 2021 Posted January 16, 2021 1 minute ago, Quinn0928 said: Yes, the other Brown would claim. My point was that it'd make far more sense for vil!Burnt to claim than elim!Burnt.
Illwei Posted January 16, 2021 Posted January 16, 2021 3 minutes ago, James Brafin said: What's stopping Elim from just shooting Lotus in the night and taking away Burnt's powers anyways? There's no way that this makes sense! but if you assume this, then- well, Well there isnt' anything stopping. We can try and WIFOM protection onto them, but leaving them alive at all and letting the elims deal with it is prefferable to shreking them outright.
James Brafin he/him Posted January 16, 2021 Posted January 16, 2021 Just now, Illwei said: If one person dies, then the other dies as well. sometimes fun add-ons but that's the gist of it. Both of TJ's games kiiiinda play on that, with this you losing powers and the spren game the Radiant goes insane. Tj likes his bond mechanics. I'm still not sure I'd want to vote burnt completely. Why does this feel like we're still in day one eeeeee it also is like, 2am for her I think, but...it's not like she's slept at normal times any other day O.o I'm pretty sure she's up. (P-edit: there she is! Hi *waves*) 1 minute ago, Quinn0928 said: Well presumably their plan was to ask for protection. So create a wifom situation? Who were they going to protect? The whole thing screams problem to me.
Quintessential she/her Posted January 16, 2021 Posted January 16, 2021 Just now, Matrim's Dice said: My point was that it'd make far more sense for vil!Burnt to claim than elim!Burnt. I mean. I doubt elim!Burnt would want to lose her powers either? And if the elim team thought that they could get a misexe on Dannex or a misexe on Lotus for that, or if Lotus is also an elim, then it would make sense.
Illwei Posted January 16, 2021 Posted January 16, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, James Brafin said: So create a wifom situation? Who were they going to protect? The whole thing screams problem to me. Lotus. Lotus can protect Burnt for the first time without dying even if she has lost her life, so @yellow ajah pls protect lotus pretty please depending on responses Edited January 16, 2021 by Illwei
Quintessential she/her Posted January 16, 2021 Posted January 16, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, James Brafin said: So create a wifom situation? Who were they going to protect? The whole thing screams problem to me. What's WIFOM? And yeah, this whole situation is a problem. Way to state the obvious we're less than two hours from rollover and the votes are spread out between... I think it's still five different people. Assuming the claims have all been true, which seems reasonable given how many scans there are in this game to disprove false claims, we have three PRs outed, two of whom don't have Warders and third of whom has an outed Warder with one life left. We've already killed one of our vil Protection roles. And nobody died to the exe last cycle, so we can't even analyze the votes. Pretty sure this is like, the definition of a problem. Question is, what do we do about it. In the interest of consolidating votes and because I legitimately don't know what else to do, Dannex. Edited January 16, 2021 by Quinn0928
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