Anniversary Game 7/Anonymous Game 9: From Embers, A Flame

[Azure Mouse]

Just now, Sage Kangaroo said:

Okay that makes sense.

I think you missed Gecko's vote maybe? There were four voters on me I believe.

On that topic, does anyone have opinions on claiming planets? I feel like knowing who's where would be beneficial to the village, since the Champions are going to most likely going to have an advantage in that area. On the other hand, I'm not sure how it'd really benefit us all that much. The biggest thing I can think of is knowing who's on First of the Sun and Braize, since those planets influence the vote.

Nothing particularly bad or dangerous about that occurred to Tenth. But Tenth's notion of danger had been forever shaped by Patji, which was not a standard that other worldhoppers necessarily found palatable.

"If it makes you uncomfortable," he said, carefully, "Why not reveal the planet you're currently on? I expect a number of worldhoppers will shift worlds over the night, in any case, so this information will be a little dated. I have certainly declared my intention to do so to the others on my world." And probably publicly at some point, though Tenth admitted he was not very sure. 

He was certain that his quarry, the Alethi lighteyed man by the name of Kaddar, had long since left. Tenth was following a cold trail, but that was the challenge he'd been promised.

[Charcoal Hyena]

I must confess that I did not expect this turn of events
As Mauve Crocodile had communicated to me privately
And they seemed quite like someone I knew and trusted.
Alas, my paranoid thoughts whispered far too quietly.

It seems the Crocodile was indeed on Braize
Since the votes do tally up to indicate that case.
I'll take a look at voting now,
And rhymes will maintain how?
Unknown, but to the day turn I go raise.

The first vote initiates with a poke from Axolotl to the Scorpion
They shouted it loudly for the entire auditorium
To hear, to fear, to rear.

Then Turquoise Gorilla takes a stab at Kangaroo
For their strategy asking Shards to claim.
Given that it was Day One, this is fine enough
And to be fair, their vote seemed awfully tame.

Then Heron chose to vote for the octo-limbed aquarian
Providing no reasoning to back this up.
I suspect it was a private communications based suspicion
Or merely simple banter making people chuffed.

Quartz Zebra declared that the Penguin was doomed to die
For demanding certain things from mighty Shards
It seems that this is not the case on high
Since the Chartreuse Penguin hasn't died just yet.

The Tiger Salamander let the venomous Scorpio of the hook
And caught a Gorilla instead.
This was for its stab at the Roo, too easy a catch!
And Axolotl thought this thing worth red.

Death the Jeweled Scorpion exists in all sᴍᴀʟʟ ᴄᴀᴘs
And asks if the Fruity Dingo exists as well.
I wonder if the Scorpio is truly just as fine
As Mort, the Death that is really quite swell.

The Mouse suspected the Iguana, perhaps due to its Saffron coat.
Other than lovely prose, there is nothing much of note.

The drunken Elephant disliked the most dangerous Croc
For speaking of poke votes when this discussion happens every time
While the conversation is one worth having
I'll admit it does drag on a bit, especially in rhyme

Opal Lion stabbed at Mauve for what seemed to be a game
A fragment of memory without origins to claim.

Mauve decides to catch itself a Roo
For proposing that the Shards claim.
While kangaroo is supposedly great food
In hindsight, the reasoning was shallow.

Hyena (that's me!) votes Kanga as well
For much the same reasons as Mauve.
I'll admit this does not reflect well on me,
But surely a Champion would not be so flawed
As to foolishly follow a teammate onto a vote
On a villager who has done scarcely anything of note?
Alas, if you decide to strike me down,
That is your prerogative
I'll accept it with nary a frown
Though I'll be saddened.

Axolotl decides to release Gorilla, looking instead for bigger game
A crocodile is fearsome enough, and it lunged at the Roo as well.
The fight was fierce, but soon the oddly coloured beast was tamed,
And the dining was absolutely swell.

The Flamboyance of Flamingos in an Onyx Trenchcoat
Lunged at Crocodilia for its attack at the Kangaroo.

The Zebra played the game of mathematics
And swapped from Penguin to Gorilla in sporadics.

The Vulture seemed to notice easy prey
And dove towards the Crocodile too
It claimed to be warning of a train
But Mauve was the countertrain to the Roo.

Taupe Gecko spoke merely in poetry
And thus voted for the Roo in rhyme
There was not that much reasoning that I could see
But since they spoke, I'll let it slide this time.

The Elephant let go of the Crocodile in a drunken stupor
And snatched up the Flamingo with its trunk.
No reason offered, none proffered
Of which I find this slightly y of funk.

Sage did not want to die
And so stabbed at the Croc
Since they are now alive
Their plan seemed to have rocked.

And so we have returned to present day.
I hope you were not led overly astray.
The people I suspect
Are Gecko and Elephant
For sliding off Crocodile with little excuse or say.

[Plum Rhinoceros]

Journal of Solemnheart, Day Four Post-Illumination, Taldain

In my studies, it appears I previously neglected the study of planets. It seems that the Shards themselves are a matter of great debate within the nature of the cosmere and its future, but the planets themselves and their abilities seems to be a relatively new field. Taldain is my current location, and of course the Cognitive Realm is Connected to everything, but the other planets are alien to me. Perhaps I came from a different planet... the name Yolen was mentioned only in passing, but it is the only one I recognized. So here is what I have gathered on the various planets. (I meant to distribute this document yesterday, but I was having some… Connection issues.)

Roshar: A land scoured by massive storms brimming with Investiture. It appears that anyone that requires Investiture to do a task can go to Roshar to retrieve additional charges to use their own abilities. This has many different implications; I think it is one of the most powerful places for some individuals to exist. However, it is also a danger. It is one of two strongholds that are currently limiting the power of the one called Odium, who nobody mentions without a shudder. To some it may be worth the risk. I think if any planet is worth risking exposure to this being's power, Roshar is.

Braize: A cold land, mostly uninhabited by living beings and instead by... animate Investiture? The living ones that can survive on Braize have an increased tenacity and increased pull, counting extra votes for the removal of suspected sympathizers of Odium. It does not give an additional vote, but boosts their original one. If that original one is changed, altered, or erased, so does the doubling affect. I do not know if this ability is worth facing Odium's wrath unless you are very confident in who their followers are. However, if Odium is unchained, Braize would likely become a much more lucrative location.

Ashyn: A land without much actual land, where Investiture is scattered by diseases. This gives the strange capability for individuals to use actions that they would normally only do once a solar cycle, to use them twice on a staggered schedule. This is... peculiar. Depending on the original abilities of the individual, this could either be an incredible boon or a useless conundrum. Combined with the fact Odium's reach extends to here, I would strongly recommend avoiding this planet unless you have abilities you need to burn through before strong scrutiny has arrived.

There is another note: those without Shards are safe, to some degree, from Odium. Those are the individuals who will get the most out of Roshar and Ashyn, but may also draw the attention of Odium's Champions, who are perfectly capable of murdering those without Shards.

Scadrial: A land where Investiture is contained in mist and metal. These mists form a bit of a shield from those who would attempt to harm them, occasionally protecting them from extraplanetary attack. This is a good planet to be in to hide and survive, but there seems to be a large contradiction in heading to a specific planet in order to avoid scrutiny. If many people die on Scadrial, it could be presumed there is a Champion of Odium on the planet itself.

Sel: A land that is incredibly highly Invested but also divided by regions. Normally Sel is hard to access, but once there you can obtain items from those who have passed on. It is difficult to see how this would actually function, as only one person involved in this conflux has died and they do not appear to have an item. However, it is one of few ways of receiving items, which can have different effects.

Nalthis: A land where Investiture is innate in the hearts – or lungs – of living beings. This allows for a gathering of items on a regular basis, but the actual effect and distribution of the item is randomized. I personally think this planet is better than Sel for attaining items, but by that very mechanism it loses efficiency if people flow to it.

First of the Sun: A wild land, with many predators and rugged individuals. The tenacity that this land enforces makes it harder to remove its inhabitants. I personally think this planet is the least valuable of them all, as Braize gives the same amount of influence on removal with much more versatility. However, it does have two minor advantages; is out of the reach of Odium, and has a stronger subtlety than Braize. The first will likely not last forever, and the second may appeal to some, but not me. If Ruin has an inescapable urge to destroy a planet, perhaps in an arrangement with Autonomy, First of the Sun would be a good target.

Taldain: A land, tidally locked so the sun never sets (or I suppose on the other side, rises) and covered in an Invested white sand. It is my current location. The static location of the sun makes navigation, once you have the proper tools, much easier, which makes it very difficult to impede the progress of others. You cannot be diverted here, and it’s possible that attempts to impede progress will dissolve as well. This is the place to be if your tasks must be completed, but I must stress that there is a severe worry that Odium will use such an ability to prevent any alterations. Watch for newcomers here.

Shadesmar: The Cognitive Realm, the place that is not a place. It is much easier to communicate here with shortened distances, and even manipulating minds can allow speaking into the minds of others outside the realm. I may travel to here soon; the value of its location will depend greatly on the decisions of Prudence. But it is quite unique.

I am open to debate on the accuracy of these summaries, as I only have access to a single planet and have gathered this information from only a few sources.

-Solemnheart

[Sage Kangaroo]

28 minutes ago, Fuchsia Ostrich said:

"We're off to a good start! Good call Sir Brocket and Ashvtet! And two animals I don't know the name of! Ashtvet, I think we should reveal where we are! I'm on Ashyn, the Fire planet! I'm not fond of it though, too hot, and no one there wants to adopt me. I haven't decided where I want to go though."

28 minutes ago, Azure Mouse said:

"If it makes you uncomfortable," he said, carefully, "Why not reveal the planet you're currently on? I expect a number of worldhoppers will shift worlds over the night, in any case, so this information will be a little dated. I have certainly declared my intention to do so to the others on my world." And probably publicly at some point, though Tenth admitted he was not very sure. 

Yeah, Ostrich and I are on Ashyn at the moment. I made this little drawing of it:

Edited December 30, 2020 by Sage Kangaroo

[Azure Mouse]

1 minute ago, Sage Kangaroo said:

Yeah, Ostrich and I are on Ashyn at the moment. I made this little drawing of it:

[OOC: Storm it, you and Plum Rhino are making me sad I ran out of upvotes and I don't even know why.

Anyway as mentioned previously, I'm on Sel along with Turquoise Gorilla. Sorry for outing you Turquoise since that kind of should've been your choice but since I complained about you previously in-thread, it should be fairly obvious we're on the same world and by transitivity, if I'm on Sel, so are you.]

[Sage Kangaroo]

1 minute ago, Azure Mouse said:

[OOC: Storm it, you and Plum Rhino are making me sad I ran out of upvotes and I don't even know why.

Anyway as mentioned previously, I'm on Sel along with Turquoise Gorilla. Sorry for outing you Turquoise since that kind of should've been your choice but since I complained about you previously in-thread, it should be fairly obvious we're on the same world and by transitivity, if I'm on Sel, so are you.]

Wait, so are there only two people on your planet? There are three people on Ashyn so I'd assumed that every planet had three people.

[Azure Mouse]

6 minutes ago, Sage Kangaroo said:

Wait, so are there only two people on your planet? There are three people on Ashyn so I'd assumed that every planet had three people.

There were, as far as Tenth knew, three people on Sel, but at this juncture, he felt just a little bad about outing the last person if that person wasn't saying they were on Sel. He did not think much hung on his refusal or his acquiescing, either way, but he did feel as though one had to have some principles somewhere.

Even a bounty hunter had ethics.

The other worldhopper [OOC: Turquoise Gorilla] had been a different matter. Tenth could not put his finger on why, exactly, but something about that worldhopper's demeanour left Kaikoa uneasy, and he trusted his Aviar's instincts. Perhaps it was how the worldhopper had been seeking those in contact with the Shard Prudence. Perhaps it was the way the other worldhopper had been seeking information others were willing to reveal.

He did not think much hung on it - he had certainly been willing to say a number of times over the past day that he was wary of the other worldhopper, even though he could not quite find the words why. It was as though he was keeping an eye open for pit traps on Patji, all over again. Strange how his past as a trapper never seemed to really leave him. Even now.

[OOC: tldr; if it's a big deal, I'll say it, but I don't like getting in the habit of saying stuff without checking in first unless I think something hangs on it. I've been a bit wary (light suspicion?) of Turquoise which is the only reason this has cropped up.]

Edited December 30, 2020 by Azure Mouse
tyop fml sorry

[Violet Axolotl]

There are two others with me on Roshar. Neither of them are very talkative there or here.

[Magenta Albatross]

I'm on Nalthis (Breath is so versatile! I should buy some to experiment with it.) with two other people. If they want to, they can claim, but I'm not going to claim for people who want the world they're on to be relatively secret.

[Taupe Gecko]

I am currently on Sel, with the other two. Planning to move to First of the Sun this turn though

Edited December 30, 2020 by Taupe Gecko

[Azure Mouse]

1 hour ago, Plum Rhinoceros said:

Sel: A land that is incredibly highly Invested but also divided by regions. Normally Sel is hard to access, but once there you can obtain items from those who have passed on. It is difficult to see how this would actually function, as only one person involved in this conflux has died and they do not appear to have an item. However, it is one of few ways of receiving items, which can have different effects.

Tenth was taken aback.

In all his time as a bounty hunter, in all his time as a trapper, or growing up on the Eelakin homeisles, he had never seen such a sight. A glowing portal opened up in the air, and a flurry of beardnuts glimmering with motes of sparkly glitterdust dropped out. A moment later, a spanreed dropped to the ground as the thunderous voice spoke up again, informing all watching that the spanreed had belonged to the deceased and unfortunate Siena Ashao [OOC: Mauve Crocodile.]

HOPEFULLY, said the voice in parentheses, THIS CONTEST DOES NOT BREAK SAID SPANREED. IT IS, AFTER ALL, ONLY A SPANREED.

Tenth of the Dusk eyed the spanreed. Kaikoa pecked at him. She wasn't going anywhere near the beardnuts. Tenth didn't blame her.

What, exactly, had happened here?

Edited December 30, 2020 by Azure Mouse
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[Plum Rhinoceros]

Journal of Solemnheart, Day Four Post-Illumination, Taldain

After further reflection, it appears I need to revise my determination of Sel. For one thing, the unique Connection to the land allows for all members to see what items the dead had held, which is not something that is revealed by normal means. It also allows the Selish to more evenly redistribute these items, as they can transfer them amongst themselves and decide who needs the item more than others.

I still believe that Nalthis is a better planet for those seeking items. Certain items are less capable of being hoarded than others; especially with the awareness surrounding Sel's abilities, items that can kill or roleblock may end up used as soon as they possibly can, which makes their arrival on Sel unlikely. But if there are specific items that interest you, Sel is much more lucrative.

I do ask for a Nalthian unafraid to state so, is it revealed what item was distributed in the last turn to those who did not receive it? Will all Nalthians be aware that one of their member now holds a item with a specific function, or merely one item of the various varieties? And can more durable items, such as spanreeds, be created?

Attaining a spanreed would make the distribution of these papers somewhat easier. Perhaps I can create a mechanism that instead of creating a single copy at a great distance, will create many copies nearby. I doubt Taldainian sand will help in this venture, however.

-Solemnheart

[Magenta Albatross]

Just now, Plum Rhinoceros said:

I do ask for a Nalthian unafraid to state so, is it revealed what item was distributed in the last turn to those who did not receive it? Will all Nalthians be aware that one of their member now holds a item with a specific function, or merely one item of the various varieties? And can more durable items, such as spanreeds, be created?

No items have been distributed yet, but this night an Awakened strawman for spying on people to figure out what type of action they used will be randomly given to one of the people here. I wonder what the physical limits of an Awakened strawman are. Oh, and it was implied that there could potentially be more than one item distributed here in the future.

[Plum Rhinoceros]

Journal of Solemnheart - Annotation, Day Four Post-Illumination, Taldain

Ah. Good to know.

Might I suggest that if you or another Nalthian believes an additional kill (that does not hit a Champion) is due to a kill item in the previous distribution, to discuss that within the Nalthian sphere and find who had used the item? I see no major reason that knowing who dabbled in vigilantism after the fact would pose a threat, but I have already miscalculated in regards to the capabilities of Sel and Nalthis. Do not publish the information before the item is used, obviously, as a Champion on Sel could use that information to great extent. But being able to hold known misfiring vigilantes at... arms reach, so to say, could prove useful for certain roles. Vigilantes with more accuracy should keep a lower profile, unless they seek the path of Ruin.

-Solemnheart

[Mint Heron]

Nihalin tucked the rock samples into his satchel for later study when he was back with his research instruments on Roshar.

Now, where did that Elsecaller go?. They were supposed to transport him back to Roshar. He spotted the aloof Inkspren first, standing and talking quietly with its bonded human. Perfect.

"I'm ready now," Nihalin said as he approached the Radiant.

They nodded. Nihalin closed their eyes as they were transported back to the physical realm. It wasn't exactly a pleasant feeling, nor one he wished to watch.

"Do you think I can get a shardbearer to accompany me to the Shattered Plains? I've heard there are stone buildings beneath the layers of crem. I'd love to collect some of that." The distinct layers, if he could get someone to cut the rock far enough to get the border between building stone and layered crem, would make and incredible addition to his collection.

The Elsecaller rolled their eyes and strode off, their business with him done for the day. I guess I'll need to find someone else. He should be grateful, though, that he'd gotten an Elsecaller to help him at all. Most couldn't transport someone like that yet.

*****

If you can't tell, I'm claiming residence on Roshar. I figure if Odium knows anyways, what's it matter if everyone else knows too?

Just a few thoughts about the death. I'm highly suspicious of Gecko at the moment. They seemed to have voted very late in the turn and would likely have meant the death of Kangaroo had they not arrived in time to cast their own self-preservation vote.

With Croc being a Forger, I doubt the rest of Odium's crew would have been willing to bus them so early in the game. That is a very useful ability for them to have and want to keep. One of the early votes on Croc might be an elim, done for distancing and with the knowledge that the Braize vote would give them an extra edge in keeping Croc alive. Or it got to a point they couldn't remove it without the extra suspicion. That's a pretty big might, though.

I also suspect, because of the above two reasons, there may be about two of Odium's in the group that voted on Kangaroo, Gecko being most likely among them.

[Opal Lion]

5 minutes ago, Magenta Albatross said:

No items have been distributed yet, but this night an Awakened strawman for spying on people to figure out what type of action they used will be randomly given to one of the people here. I wonder what the physical limits of an Awakened strawman are. Oh, and it was implied that there could potentially be more than one item distributed here in the future.

How interesting. I do wonder how that tiny straw man will be used. Nalthis is the lottery, yes? So it's announced what Item is up beforehand? interesting. 

So in looking over last cycle I'm not so fond of elephant?
At the end they retracted their vote on Mauve, and basically shaded everyone else on the wagon, saying that they all jumped on opportunistically. could have been a last minute attempt to get people off, but- okay, probably unlikely, seeing as that would be a risky play. the jump to a completely different target was strange to me. 

[Violet Axolotl]

I will now attempt to use my years of wisdom to ISO the voters of Kangaroo, those being Gorilla, Crocodile, Hyena, and Gecko. Beware of text.

@Turquoise Gorilla:

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First Post:

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Not really sure how to engage with all this rp, so partially just checking in.

If Prudence is feeling kind, I'd appreciate PMs with players they consider interesting. 'fraid I can't spare the time to PM all of you, so here's hoping they're discerning.

Who do you chaps feel like lynching today? Feels to me like we ought to get into the meat of the matter. For now, my vote is for Sage Kangaroo. Feels to me like an advantage for the elims to know where two shards are, and to take two players off their to kill list.

This, of course, is what initially prompted my vote on Gorilla- it seemed too good to be true. The later events of the cycle made me lessen my grip on the idea, though perhaps that can't be trusted as I also intended to unvote Crocodile.

Second Post:

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Respectfully, what did you expect me to find beyond the obvious in the first cycle, with but a single prior post that wasn’t RP? By necessity C1 votes must be shallow, but their purpose is as much to stimulate discussion as it is to be accurate. I picked the only possible subject of discussion.

This, perhaps, is what maybe made me doubt- I've been around long enough that this rang true and it wasn't my intention to kill discussion starters. My issue with Gorilla wasn't their intention, but their specific vote.

Third Post:

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How do you propose the village find the best target to lynch just by waiting? We have to work to find said target, which we do through creating discussion and gathering information.

Here, they misunderstood what I meant in voting them. I do not know if they are Odium's chosen who knowingly cast shade on me in exaggerating my reasoning, or if it was a genuine mistake. I believe I was clear enough that the former is likely, but I am not Gorilla, and my mind, albeit wizened and affected by age, does not work the same way as theirs. I agree with what they said here, and always have, which perhaps was their intention.

Fourth Post:

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It wasn’t a poke vote, in that I attempted to find some justification for the vote to see what discussion came of it. 
 

Prudence, I’d be much obliged if you could set me up with PMs with Mauve and with Violet.

The first portion of this rings strange, almost as if Gorilla said to themselves "I am going to vote Kangaroo... now I need to find a reason so it seems like an okay move." This is weird because typically votes come the opposite way; noticing something and having that prompt a vote. As for the PM request with me... that never happened. In the case of Odium'sChamp!Gorilla, the Mauve request would be distancing. I don't recall if Mauve said anything in particular that would have prompted this otherwise, but when I ISO them I'll check.

Fifth Post:

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Well, I'll do my best to give you more to consider on me, Violet Axolotl, but I shall make no apology for my attempt to stimulate conversation.

I got a reasonably strong village read on Coral Swan for their post at the top of this page - putting the idea in the head of the eliminators that the neutral shards can't be worked with.

I, likewise, could do with a vote count, but if not provided will tally one myself shortly enough.

Out of all of Gorilla's posts, this is the most village. Pointing out something Swan said that I had initially missed, etc. Not much otherwise here.

Sixth Post:

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If my count is correct, Zebra, there isn’t a current vote on me. I’d be grateful if you might elucidate on your agreement with the other vote on me. My recollection is that it was placed for swiftly voting towards the start of the cycle - what about that do you agree with, and why?

@Violet Axolotl, reviewing the early cycle, in your first reply to me you suggest you might “join me” presumably in my vote. Less than an hour later, you then vote on me. I’m curious as to the volte-face here.

Their final post of the cycle. Again, they... sort of? misunderstood my reasoning for voting them, but it's better. Again I'm not sure how purposefully their pushing that, it might be not at all. As for the last part, I replied to that in my first post of this turn. 

Overall Read: Slight Odium's Champion. Will watch closely and hopefully keep an open mind.

TL;DR: May be overstating how much they misunderstood my vote on them. Defensive about something I agreed with, but apparently didn't know I agreed with it. Might have requested a PM with Crocodile as a form of distancing.

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@Charcoal Hyena: (I'm not going to copy-paste their whole posts, even in spoiler boxes, but I will link them.)

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First Post:

It's a nice poem, well done. The information it goes over is a good refresher of some of the finer, overlooked rules, which is nice. There isn't anything extremely new, not a lot of Hyena's own thoughts, but they clearly put effort into it. I don't think this poem is evil-minded.

*cough* Blast! I thought I was done with that...

Second Post:

Firstly, their PM request also didn't happen. I have only one PM, and it's with Swan. That request of mine was granted, I dunno why out of all the others.

Secondly, this was startlingly... unhelpful when it came to rule analysis, which is what I expected after their first post. Don't get me wrong, I greatly enjoyed reading it, but after you discussed mechanics in your first post I anticipated something akin.

Third Post:

The first paragraph here is odd. Surely they can see that their poems aren't rule-specific in the way their first post was, correct? 

It evolves into similar fashion of their second. But once they finish the Shards... I'm instinctively disliking their vote, but it rings the most good to me out of the four. Even if I think they are misguided, not Roo.

Fourth Post:

In reply of my accusation, and in my opinion a decent defense barring the fact I can't confirm that they don't typically engage in D1 votes. I think their thoughts on Croc are too blatant to be e/e, but given that a Forger is a very good role for the elims to have maybe a strong defense would have been considered.

Fifth Post:

Actual reasons for their vote on Kangaroo beyond just 'they want the neutrals to claim', which I appreciate.

Sixth Post:

Clarification. Nothing of note. That's their last as well.

Overall Read: Slight Good, but a caveat of still voted Kangaroo over Croc, and said that blatantly. I rate them as good largely because I think the other Roo voters are more evil.

TL;DR: Nice poems, not super helpful rule-wise though. Blatantly chose Roo over Croc, perhaps too forward for e/e, but because Croc was a Forger a defense this large is more likely than if Croc was vanilla.

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@Taupe Gecko:

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First Post:

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Aurora stepped out of the city, her claws-wait no those were toenails, weren't they? Humans were so weird. Oh, and she should probably buy some clothes. People were looking at her oddly. It wasn't her fault that they insisted on wearing clothes. Honestly, scales were far more practical.

RP. Fully embracing the Gecko aspect. Nothing of note.

Second Post:

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As they say, go to the polls early to eat up the early voters- ah forgive me I mean "vote early, vote often"

I do believe this is in defense of Gorilla, as the timing of this post fits with when I accused Gorilla. Marking that down as a curious thing, yes, it definitely is...

They then left for quite some time, a page and a half at least.

Third Post:

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Uhhh.... Is it just me or is a whole bunch of the posts doubled? I was counting on my talons and it dosn't add up

Shard error, that's happened to me before too. That shouldn't be surprising; I've experienced a lot in my days. Nothing of note.

Fourth Post:

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Apparently just my scales because it fixed itself. 

Same as the third. Nothing of note.

Fifth Post:

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D1 votes are always quite rough

In reality their really just fluff

In this case, I feel bad bout both

They just really, arn't quite a oath

In this case I feel, the more reasoning here

Is for the shrew,

Sage Kangaroo

By not a lot,

but better then naught

And why am I writing this as a poem?

Perhaps as a Dragon (wait, ignore that, I'm a human) I thought I could show-em

(That last one was a rough rhyme to come by)

I also could not sleep much, sigh

So I spent all night making up rhymes.

This came very late in the cycle, but not late enough to be viewed as a hammer. (Or maybe late enough... fifteen minutes.) but there is virtually no reasoning behind this vote. Gecko says they feel bad about both, but that's contradictory. I don't like the timing, intent, or anything else about this vote.

Overall Read: Slight Odium's Champion, they only had two posts that were of relevance and both tie them to suspect/confirmed evils.

TL;DR: Defended Gorilla, voted against Croc but also added that they feel bad about them- safety net for the possible flip, maybe?

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And I'm tired of ISOing so I'll do Croc later today. I think these three are the most important as they're the ones alive.

One more thing though:

22 minutes ago, Opal Lion said:

So in looking over last cycle I'm not so fond of elephant?
At the end they retracted their vote on Mauve, and basically shaded everyone else on the wagon, saying that they all jumped on opportunistically. could have been a last minute attempt to get people off, but- okay, probably unlikely, seeing as that would be a risky play. the jump to a completely different target was strange to me. 

I tentatively disagree with this. Elephant has been quite active and has made some good points regarding a lot of things. I don't think their retraction is super evil. Perhaps because I myself was about to do the very same thing as they did- that is switch off of Croc onto someone with no votes currently, and only didn't because I was distracted and forgot to send the post in time, thankfully. Though that in itself is enough for me to glance over Elephant's retraction.

[Opal Lion]

2 minutes ago, Violet Axolotl said:

I tentatively disagree with this. Elephant has been quite active and has made some good points regarding a lot of things. I don't think their retraction is super evil. Perhaps because I myself was about to do the very same thing as they did- that is switch off of Croc onto someone with no votes currently, and only didn't because I was distracted and forgot to send the post in time, thankfully. Though that in itself is enough for me to glance over Elephant's retraction.

I-

I will say that Mauve's Appeal to Emotion did work on me, and if I was online at the time, I would have moved my vote off. 

[Violet Axolotl]

3 minutes ago, Opal Lion said:

I-

I will say that Mauve's Appeal to Emotion did work on me, and if I was online at the time, I would have moved my vote off. 

You sound as if you missed that I already said this. Go to my first post of the turn for further explanation. 

[Opal Lion]

Just now, Violet Axolotl said:

You sound as if you missed that I already said this. Go to my first post of the turn for further explanation. 

it- I was- 

I was agreeing with you. I did not miss it. I was saying that- I will admit, that I felt, the same way. 

[Melon Dingo]

40 minutes ago, Mint Heron said:

With Croc being a Forger, I doubt the rest of Odium's crew would have been willing to bus them so early in the game. That is a very useful ability for them to have and want to keep. One of the early votes on Croc might be an elim, done for distancing and with the knowledge that the Braize vote would give them an extra edge in keeping Croc alive. Or it got to a point they couldn't remove it without the extra suspicion. That's a pretty big might, though.

Please recall LG72, I think after what Araris and Ventyl did, we shouldn’t be surprised to see elims bussing their teammates. Especially if they’d already have a somewhat significant amount of votes on them. However, this is can get into IKYK... 

So, I’d keep watch on all of the people who voted on Mauve. Just because they were apart of removing an elim doesn’t hard clear them as some people like to think. I’m not quite sure who I should be suspicious of, considering I found it hard to read through the thread due to the amounts of poetry, despite that it was good. Anyways, I’ll try to give my two real reads.

Kangaroo: Slight Village

I disagree with them saying Shards should claim in thread, even if it’s just the neutral ones. It seems like a great way to get Odium to splinter you. However, I don’t think any smart elim would straight out say this in thread. I think they had good intentions with the post, and if some Shards agree with their point, who am I to stop them? 

Poets (I can’t remember who is all doing the poetry): Very Slight Elim

I don’t know why, but the two (three?) people who are doing this are giving me bad vibes. I get that we all want to get those non-Sanderson passes, but using a cosmetic role like this one does seem like a good way to have an excuse for lack of good game analysis. I know there is one person who is doing it well, just can’t recall who. This isn’t a good read, more just a gut since I find it hard to get a good feel for what the person is actually trying to say because of the formatting.

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Niru enjoyed the cuts forming on his bare feet. The ground in Shadesmar was really something, it gave him a good kind of clarity. The clashing shades of the blood from his feet against the dark glass... “It was boldness, it was contrast, it was subtlety... It was the greatest work of art he had ever witnessed.” 

That old man on Sel had really been something... too bad I’d never gotten him to worship me. Though, in hindsight, I guess it wouldn’t have been that great. Gaotona had always been slightly depressed after he’d thrown that book into the fire. I really didn’t get why, the book wasn’t that interesting... it had no plot to speak of. Still, could a book really have been better than a great being such as myself? I didn’t think so

I continued walking, maybe if I walked around the Cognitive Realm long enough, Odium would notice me and I’d be able to fight him. That would be sooooooooo fun! If I did that, maybe people would start to worship me for how great I really was! I giggled excitedly. Maybe that group of people that hired me for this job were right? This really was going to be fun, wasn’t it?

Hehe...

 

 

 

 

 

[Onyx Flamingo]

wow!! we got one!! i definitely wasn't expecting that!!

now, i am not sure how i feel about kangaroo's innocence, but i do think that it's likely that hyena-ena or gecko-ecko could be an elim. they would've known crocy would've had an extra vote!! can't be for sure right now, but this is my current guess!

also, i need to go look back over the rules about the worlds. because i am much confusion!! 

[Violet Axolotl]

23 minutes ago, Onyx Flamingo said:

now, i am not sure how i feel about kangaroo's innocence, but i do think that it's likely that hyena-ena or gecko-ecko could be an elim. they would've known crocy would've had an extra vote!! can't be for sure right now, but this is my current guess!

Everyone knew Croc had an extra vote, they ccllcaiaimedo BBraize inn-threrad 

Ssosorrtr myy shakkes hahave rrettunred inn fcorce.

[Onyx Flamingo]

26 minutes ago, Violet Axolotl said:

Everyone knew Croc had an extra vote, they ccllcaiaimedo BBraize inn-threrad 

Ssosorrtr myy shakkes hahave rrettunred inn fcorce.

oh yeah, i forgot crocy did that!! i am sorry!! now i am not so sure about who other elims could be, but that's okay!!

[Mint Heron]

1 hour ago, Melon Dingo said:

Please recall LG72, I think after what Araris and Ventyl did, we shouldn’t be surprised to see elims bussing their teammates. Especially if they’d already have a somewhat significant amount of votes on them. However, this is can get into IKYK.

I would argue these two cases are very different.

In LG72, Ventyl was already under suspicion and Araris was trying to get in front of that. It was also four cycles into the game and Ventyl was mostly inactive.

Croc, on the other hand, was active and under basically no suspicion any more egregious than any other player could have been at the time.

Speaking of which, let us look at the reasonings for voting Croc, shall we?

Spoiler

 

Elephant:

Stated reasoning was because of Croc's reaction to discussion about votes/poke votes.

Lion:

From what I can tell, it's the same reason as Elephant.

Axolotl:

 Not a ton of reasoning here, either. They said it was for the same reason they voted on Gorilla, which was for jumping on the "easy" X. I somewhat disagree with this, since D1 is almost always the easy X votes, but it turned out good anyways.

Flamingo:

Reason here was defense of Kangaroo.

Vulture:

Also defense of Kangaroo, suspicious of the reason for Croc's vote on Kangaroo.

 

None of these really stand out as a super strong reason that would lead to a necessary bussing. The reasons do make sense. Jumping on Kangaroo for the shard reveal suggestion was weird, but Croc wasn't the first to do so, and they weren't the first vote for that same reason.

I'm not entirely discounting the possibility of someone on the Odium team being included in the list of those who voted on Croc, but I don't believe it was any of the later votes. Not when they had the chance to save Croc.