Quick Fix 48: Welcome to the Family

[Kings_way he/they]

1 hour ago, Shard of Reading said:

Go re-read D1. At the end Vently gave their suspicions of Alv.

You've been ninj-edited

[Ookla-son-son-Ventyl]

11 minutes ago, Kings_way said:

*facepalms* I need to read who died. I almost did a read of them to... 

I guess that clears Illwei up for me, since Somebody didn't deny their claim. 

This seems like jumping on a train for no good reason. I don't think Ventyl has expressed any suspicion of Alvron previously.

EDIT: I found where Ventyl expressed suspicion. Alvron posted:

To which Ventyl replied: (I changed the vote to orange to avoid confusion about my vote)

To @Ventyl, I don't think Alvron was suggesting killing off toughs, they were just giving some advice on what we should expect from the elim team, ability wise. Still, I am slightly less suspicious of you now.

Also, see my first post of this cycle, if you’re wondering why I didn’t start the vote.

[Mat he/him]

Hmmmmmm Kings_way

Alvron

Largely a self preservation vote. Partially a favor.

[Illwei]

What's this sudden flip onto Alvron about?

If I'm honest I'm fine with it- if we can kill Matrim too  :P. 

[Mat he/him]

Just now, Illwei said:

What's this sudden flip onto Alvron about?

Reading voted them for RNG (which they did say is their playstyle...)

Ventyl voted them for previous reasons which they didn't use before because it had zero support.

I voted them in part self preservation in part as a favor for [REDACTED]'s later possible help.

[Shard of Reading he/him]

3 minutes ago, Matrim's Dice said:

Reading voted them for RNG (which they did say is their playstyle...)

My original reasoning for Alv was their RNG, but they seem to have done a great job of "contributing" while saying nothing. So after thinking about it I have a bit more reasoning for my vote than pure RNG. I also don't like it when people use RNG to vote.

Edited November 2, 2020 by Shard of Reading

[Illwei]

1 minute ago, Shard of Reading said:

I also don't like it when people use RNG to vote.

*couch* Matrim *couch*

[Mat he/him]

Just now, Illwei said:

*couch* Matrim *couch*

I did it onnnnnccccceeeee as an elllliiiiimmmmmm

[Shard of Reading he/him]

Just now, Illwei said:

*couch* Matrim *couch*

I know he's done it before, but he's not doing it this game.

[Kings_way he/they]

7 minutes ago, Illwei said:

What's this sudden flip onto Alvron about?

If I'm honest I'm fine with it- if we can kill Matrim too  :P. 

Well, I think Matrim's village, so I'm voting Alvron

[Illwei]

Okaaaay

So if not Matrim who can I get you guys to vote on so two people die

I wanna see two people die

[Shard of Reading he/him]

3 minutes ago, Illwei said:

Okaaaay

So if not Matrim who can I get you guys to vote on so two people die

I wanna see two people die

There you go again with you're "let's kill everyone" rhetoric. Personally I think we're late enough into the game where we want to avoid double lynchs.

[Illwei]

Just now, Shard of Reading said:

There you go again with you're "let's kill everyone" rhetoric. Personally I think we're late enough into the game where we want to avoid double lynchs.

We're at cycle 3? that's not that late into the game, especially because we never did it before. 

[Quintessential she/her]

2 minutes ago, Illwei said:

So if not Matrim who can I get you guys to vote on so two people die

I wanna see two people die

Yeahhhh that may not be such a good idea. We've already lynched two villagers, and the elims have killed two more. Assuming there are four elims (which seems the most likely according to the calculations from D1), we have 10 villagers left. If we lynch two people this turn, there's still a good chance that one or both of them will be village; if both of them are, then we would drop from having 10 villagers to 7, and there would still be 4 elims left. They'd only have to kill three more people to win. Under the right circumstances I think a double-lynch could be a good thing, but it certainly deserves a bit more caution and forethought than "I wanna see two people die"

[Shard of Reading he/him]

3 minutes ago, Illwei said:

We're at cycle 3? that's not that late into the game, especially because we never did it before. 

Yeah, but I prefer to have more breathing room, and I think that people don't have enough suspicions for them to agree on a lynch.

Edit: @Quinn0928 articulated my thoughts better than I did.

Edited November 2, 2020 by Shard of Reading

[Illwei]

8 minutes ago, Quinn0928 said:

Yeahhhh that may not be such a good idea. We've already lynched two villagers, and the elims have killed two more. Assuming there are four elims (which seems the most likely according to the calculations from D1), we have 10 villagers left. If we lynch two people this turn, there's still a good chance that one or both of them will be village; if both of them are, then we would drop from having 10 villagers to 7, and there would still be 4 elims left. They'd only have to kill three more people to win. Under the right circumstances I think a double-lynch could be a good thing, but it certainly deserves a bit more caution and forethought than "I wanna see two people die"

Okay, sure: let's say we're at 10-4

Next cycle we go to 8-4, then 6-4, then the elims win if we haven't gotten one. 

However how do you feel about Alv being an Elim? Personally I don't know what to look for In him, I've only managed to read on of his previous games...before realizing that it was a strange game that I don't understand... 

But you're not voting on him?

Quinn

You being opposed to finding someone else while not voting doesn't feel right to me. Granted, you are a new player, but still. 

[Quintessential she/her]

7 minutes ago, Illwei said:

Okay, sure: let's say we're at 10-4

Next cycle we go to 8-4, then 6-4, then the elims win if we haven't gotten one. 

However how do you feel about Alv being an Elim? Personally I don't know what to look for In him, I've only managed to read on of his previous games...before realizing that it was a strange game that I don't understand... 

But you're not voting on him?

Quinn

You being opposed to finding someone else while not voting doesn't feel right to me. Granted, you are a new player, but still. 

Okay, I'll respond to this post in order; if we lynched two villagers this turn, we would go 7-4, not 8-4, because the elims still get to kill some one. 

I don't personally have much of an opinion on Alv, or on anyone else, at this point in the game. As you said, I'm a new player, so I don't know anyone's play styles here, and even then my own play-style in other mafia games is generally more on the cautious side. Which is what I'm advocating for here, to be perfectly, crystal clear. I'm not opposed to finding someone else, I just don't think that voting two people out is a wise move at this point, not without further information. 

And I don't see how you can make an argument for voting me out because I'm *not* targeting Alv, while at the same time saying that you're finding it hard to read him despite having played with him before. Can you really blame me for not jumping on that train? 

Edited November 2, 2020 by Quinn0928

[Shard of Reading he/him]

11 minutes ago, Illwei said:

Okay, sure: let's say we're at 10-4

Next cycle we go to 8-4, then 6-4, then the elims win if we haven't gotten one.

Also, there are inactives...

[Elkanah he/him]

The Cycle is Closed. 

[Elkanah he/him]

Hour 4

Lashing Out

Quick Fix 48

Alvron (4): Matrim's Dice, Kings Way, Shard of Reading, Ventyl

Ventyl (1): Alvron

Quinn (1): Illwei

Alvron was lynched! He was Loyal and Insightful

Illwei was killed! She was Loyal and Tough

Player List

Spoiler

1. Lord Silberfarben - First of the players

2. Matrim's Dice - Daziron the Fused

3. Gears - Fourth of the Dark (looking to trap... something)

4. Ghanderflaffle - Kriti the Death Averse

5. Lotus - Lotus of the Reshi

6. Condensation - Connie the great guesser

7. Kings Way - Banana the Symmetrical

8. Somebody From Sel - Somebody F. Mysterious Loyal Recommended

9. JesterLavorre - Jesereth with a discerning eye  Loyal Recommended

10. Quinn0928 - Rinala master of sounds

11. Illwei - the merciless scholar  Loyal Tough

12. Alvron - Yazadan the Bloodthirsty Loyal Insightful

13. Turtle - the Planner

14. Ashbringer - Faleast the Rogue (Loyal Recommended)

15. Shard of reading - The Ameliorate

16. Windrunner Supreme - seven letters for paranoia fun

17. Ventyl - Lafay Vilt the twinborn Sandalloy Compoundster

18. Experience -  Toby the Deiter-Mind (Loyal Convincing)

The cycle will end tomorrow at 10 MST

[Quintessential she/her]

Okay, I have something important to say: I am Connected. I've been keeping quiet about it to avoid being targeted, but last turn I used my ability on Gears. I've been kind of suspicious of him since the beginning--I'd been warned about elims trying to pocket new players, and Gears PM'd me offering "strategic advice" almost as soon as D1 started... anyway, I scanned Gears and he is a Diagrammist. I'm still worried about the elims targeting me but at least by speaking up we can hopefully take out an elim as well. So, without further ado, I vote Gears. 

[Gears]

Interestingly enough, I am a Connected. I scanned Daziron and they were an elim. I know Rinala is a liar and thus a Diagrammist, but I think Daziron is more charismatic and thus the greater threat. Preferably, we could get a tie and kill them both, but alas, that may not be possible. If I die, lynch Rinala and Daziron.

[Mat he/him]

...Well I know I'm not an elim. Gears.

I'm worried we're close to lylo if the elims find it beneficial to kill me. I don't want to think we're close, but it's looking likely.

[Shard of Reading he/him]

Well... I'm insightful and I scanned both Gears and Quinn earlier this game, so I know they aren't lying about their roles, but I know that one of them is lying, but Gears has seemed suspicious the whole game, but it hasn't been suspicious enough to warrant a vote. Also, what Quinn has said that gave off elim vibes could be put down to new player syndrome. So, Gears

Edit: I meant that one of them is lying about the results of there scan.

Edited November 2, 2020 by Shard of Reading

[+Lotus she/her]

Mmm. Well, If we Lynch Quinn and they are a diagramest, then we know to trust Gears and Lynch who they say is a diagramist.

If we Lynch gears and they are a diagramest, then well we know to trust Quinn...