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After reading chapter 13 I have a theory on what the gostbloods mean by having their goal as power, maybe they are talking about energy, or a power source, as we know investiture can be used as a power source and stormlight seems to be the easiest way to use it like a power source, so what if the ghostbloods want to get stormlight off Roshar for energy reasons. as they seem to be interested in scadrial who is in their industrial revolution it seems like a good fit.

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I have a hard time believing this is only a big capitalistic scam, by the Ghostbloods. 

There has to be more. They probably have their eyes on a Shard, or at least an Unmade. 

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5 hours ago, EggArdent said:

After reading chapter 13 I have a theory on what the gostbloods mean by having their goal as power, maybe they are talking about energy, or a power source, as we know investiture can be used as a power source and stormlight seems to be the easiest way to use it like a power source, so what if the ghostbloods want to get stormlight off Roshar for energy reasons. as they seem to be interested in scadrial who is in their industrial revolution it seems like a good fit.

This has been proposed.  I personally have trouble with a trade monopoly maintained exclusively through confidential knowledge not to mention they put in a lot of effort for this when they could probably take over a minor shardworld if they wanted to. 

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There would be no reason to export Stormlight to Scardial. They have their own Investiture fueled weather phenomena, The Mists. There is a WoB out there that states you can store he Mists in a gemstone so why bother transporting Stormlight across the CR when you have your own local source.    

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1 hour ago, Dancer said:

There would be no reason to export Stormlight to Scardial. They have their own Investiture fueled weather phenomena, The Mists. There is a WoB out there that states you can store he Mists in a gemstone so why bother transporting Stormlight across the CR when you have your own local source.    

Highstorms are regular occurances, meanwhile Sazed has total control over where and when the mists show up. Stormlight would be more accessible and plentiful source of pure Investiture.

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Sazed my have complete control but he does let them out rather often. Also you could just ask him to let the Mists out in regular intervals. Tell him you want to fuel your tech with it. He will probably allow it considering he is really pushing for technological advancement on Scadrial. If he says yes then you have a god on your side. 

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Bear with me, I will repeat myself: Why not use the transport mechanism to channel the energy to somewhere, where a tip at the scale would be decisive?

Somewhere perhaps where Shards are confronted in a stalemate.

At any point in space and time where this might be the case, a burst of investiture on shardic level would be very welcome by either side.

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I dont think Gostbloods are interested in controling planets. At least not Shardworlds. As we all know, shardworlds have Investiture easier or harder, but available. But is place, where any Investiture is very valuable.

I think Ghostbloods want to take over Cognitive Realm. ALL Cognitive Realm. Not by force, but by Investiture as money. With this, they can literaly control inter-planetary trade and even mouvment. Can even isolate entire worlds and Shards, bounded to them. I think this can be basis for Era 4 plot - that Ghostbloods takes over CR and to be independent, Shardworlds develop space travel in PR (Scadrial mainly).

Also, to take Stormlight off Roshar, they need perfect gems. On Roshar is very hard to aquire this, so I think they need to bring gems. I also think that Scadrial will be source of perfect gems - corundum can be synthetic, and this in reach of even current Scadrian technology.

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8 hours ago, Michael Portz said:

Bear with me, I will repeat myself: Why not use the transport mechanism to channel the energy to somewhere, where a tip at the scale would be decisive?

That is a very good idea but it relies on another scadrial being around.  To the best of our knowledge most shards do seem to be honoring the agreement. 

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9 hours ago, Michael Portz said:

Bear with me, I will repeat myself: Why not use the transport mechanism to channel the energy to somewhere, where a tip at the scale would be decisive?

Somewhere perhaps where Shards are confronted in a stalemate.

At any point in space and time where this might be the case, a burst of investiture on shardic level would be very welcome by either side.

So....

Roshar. :mellow: Hmm.

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19 hours ago, Halyo_Alex said:

So....

Roshar. :mellow: Hmm.

Yeah, NOW it is Roshar, but what next if Odium “wins” here? Perhaps it is the Ghostbloods Boss-Shard who plays the long game and wants to prepare in advance for when Odium comes for her/him next.

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On 10/1/2020 at 4:39 AM, Dancer said:

Sazed my have complete control but he does let them out rather often. Also you could just ask him to let the Mists out in regular intervals. Tell him you want to fuel your tech with it. He will probably allow it considering he is really pushing for technological advancement on Scadrial. If he says yes then you have a god on your side. 

But he wouldn't necessarily say yes in the first place. In order to convince him to do so, they'd need to be open enough about their intentions to get him to trust them, and if their interests mainly serve themselves I don't think Sazed would be happy to support them. At best it would complicate things, and at worst they'd have a god against them. Securing access to Roshar's Investiture may be more difficult in the short term, but simplifies things in the long term.

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