the fellowship of the thing The Fellowship of the Thing - Side Tales (Retired)

[Mat he/him]

6 minutes ago, Channelknight Fadran said:

 

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Yeah, we're still in Elendel. Null and Fish are in an airship somewhere.

 

[Condensation she/her]

On 24/09/2020 at 11:19 AM, eltruT said:

Akii ran, going back to the orphanage. She'd stay there for a while, lying low until she could find a bending teacher. "Young lady what have you been doing?" Ms. Fedarex, the woman who ran the orphanage said with as much condensation in her voice as humanly possible. "I..." What lie could Akii make up? "I got into a fight." Akii ducked her head, trying to look as vulnerable as possible. Ms. Fedarex sniffed, walking past and leaving Akii by herself. I will find my father and figure out who I am. she thought Because he has some answering to do.

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I'm joining! Ta daaaa!

Okay, I've read all of this and I have some things to say. 1. I saw lots of grammar mistakes, but this one was my favorite, so I'm correcting this one. Who knows what I'm planning on correcting?

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You're right, it's condescension, not condensation!

2. Can I have a character from an entirely different book? The book that I want to use is 'The Books of Beginning: The Emerald Atlas', and I would like to have a character who has the Emerald Atlas. The Emerald Atlas allows you to go to specific times, things, and places by placing your hand on the page and thinking about it, so you have to know it/them in some way. No one else can use the Emerald Atlas, it would be bonded to my character. Is this too OP, or is it okay?

3. If that's too OP, can I have a Virtus Third? I'll explain that if people think that the first one is too OP.

There you are, I'd love to have your answers.

 

[Channelknight Fadran]

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I'm joining! Ta daaaa!

I'm going to tie you guys into the main FotT by giving Fadran an Elendelian buddy named Chris! Chris is just an informant, but he likes money, so he's going to do his thing!

 

[Mat he/him]

7 minutes ago, Condensation said:

 

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I mean, Null has a character from Wheel of Time that can use the One Power, so I think you're fine...  

 

[Frustration]

14 minutes ago, Condensation said:

 

 

6 minutes ago, Matrim's Dice said:

 

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I'm going to have to disagree with Dice

The Atlas is incredibly overpowered, and does give it's user the ability to alter the past which is what tipped the scale for me, The books of beginning in general are too OP.

 

[Mat he/him]

1 minute ago, Frustration said:

 

 

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Ok, that makes sense then. (I haven't actually read the books, soooo )

 

[Negative_Null They/Them]

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Maybe one of the quests could be getting back the book after it's stolen or lost? (I haven't read them either)

 

[Condensation she/her]

14 minutes ago, Frustration said:

The Atlas is incredibly overpowered, and does give it's user the ability to alter the past which is what tipped the scale for me, The books of beginning in general are too OP.

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I could change it... I don't mind not being able to change the past, I was only mentioning that for the possibility of running away.

The books are really good, I enjoy them. Yeah, we could do a quest with that...

 

Edited October 6, 2020 by Condensation

[Negative_Null They/Them]

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I think do what you want, but we're trying to keep this smaller scale and smaller power, so you be the judge of that

 

[Vapor she/her]

1 hour ago, I Am A Fish said:

The paper that had landed on her foot, flew up onto her face. 

 

Ammon picks it up.

[dannnex male]

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Also, being from outside the cosmere will have to be a big plot point for your character. So far Meira is the only non-cosmere person we have, and that fact alone is driving the the second biggest plot thread we have. So if all of a sudden we have a bunch more out of universe characters, it becomes hard to rationalize the idea of “being from outside the cosmere is insanely rare and worth it’s own entire storyline”

 

[I Am A Fish he/him]

8 minutes ago, Vapor said:

Ammon picks it up.

In messy handwriting are the words:

Njtufe npvoubjmt

[Vapor she/her]

Ammon looks at it confusedly. "Does anyone understand this?" he asks, showing it to the others.

[Condensation she/her]

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Okay, here's my draft. If this is too OP, let me know.

Andante: thin Caucasian female from Earth(Present Day), wavy dark brown hair, light brown skin, medium brown eyes with long lashes. She wears a tight dark green t-shirt and black skinny jeans with green and black tennis shoes. She carries a hand-size old green book that she often puts in her right pocket, which is larger than the left pocket. She also carries a little silver camera.
While she was reading one of her favorite books, Bands of Mourning by Brandon Sanderson, she accidentally placed a picture of Elendel between the pages of her Emerald Atlas and got transported to (wherever you guys are, will someone describe it?)
The Emerald Atlas, while she is holding it, will (at first with a picture placed between the pages and then when she imagines it, that's the progression in the book) take her to a person, place, thing, or time(usually more than one). When it is taken to a different time than it belongs to, it will disappear into its correct time in two hours unless held by the one who is bonded to it(Andante). No one who is not bonded with the book can use it, and you can't bond again with it unless the previous owner is dead.
Andante had a younger brother, but he died at the age of two along with her mother from pneumonia. She was 5. She's come to terms with both, but she often wonders what her life would be like if they were still alive, even going so far as to imagine her brother with her. She... kind of thinks he's still alive. (I know, I know, super cliche) Her father is quite busy, and is often away on a business trip. As such, Andante is best friends with her books and knows how to take care of herself in her modern world. She doesn't have much(or any) fighting training, but she is a ballerina and is naturally graceful.

What do you think?

 

[dannnex male]

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Okay wait wait wait wait 

Thats some hard-core 4th wall breaking. Like, you just absolutely shattered it. I dunno if that’s gonna work.

 

[Condensation she/her]

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I don't think I'll have her actually realize that she's breaking the 4th wall, she'll just think that she went back or forward in time really far. She might notice that it's oddly like Era 2 of Mistborn, but I don't want to completely shatter the 4th wall. It's really just going from one book to another, does that make sense?

 

[dannnex male]

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I meaaannn maybe? In this multi-megaverse (or whatever Fadran’s name for it is) these places aren’t from books at all, they just exist. Like, we have this huuuuuuuuge macroverse (that’s the word) that already encompasses almost anything you can imagine, basically any universe that exists anywhere, and then having it be like “all of that is actually just within this Emerald Atlas universe, and all of this is just from a book” is kinda ehhhhhhhh. And being able to instantaneously travel into any single book ever definitely seems a little OP, even ignoring all the problems with the 4th wall and foundations of the universe. 

 

[Condensation she/her]

Just now, Danex said:

I meaaannn maybe? In this multi-megaverse (or whatever Fadran’s name for it is) these places aren’t from books at all, they just exist. Like, we have this huuuuuuuuge macroverse (that’s the word) that already encompasses almost anything you can imagine, basically any universe that exists anywhere, and then having it be like “all of that is actually just within this Emerald Atlas universe, and all of this is just from a book” is kinda ehhhhhhhh. And being able to instantaneously travel into any single book ever definitely seems a little OP, even ignoring all the problems with the 4th wall and foundations of the universe. 

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Well then, what if the Emerald Atlas is a universe in this multi-megaverse (nice phrase) and she just had a freak accident where she was dreaming or something, then touched her book and got taken to Elendel?

 

[Channelknight Fadran]

9 minutes ago, Danex said:

...basically any universe that exists anywhere, and then having it be like “all of that is actually just within this Emerald Atlas universe, and all of this is just from a book” is kinda ehhhhhhhh.

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The whole idea of the Macrosmos is that you can access one Universe from another, but I see what you mean by this.

 

7 minutes ago, Condensation said:

Well then, what if the Emerald Atlas is a universe in this multi-megaverse (nice phrase) 

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That's... the premise, yes.

 

[Condensation she/her]

Just now, Channelknight Fadran said:

That's... the premise, yes.

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Well, that's what I was thinking, but Danex misunderstood me, and then I think I escalated his misunderstanding...

So can I introduce her? I already know how I'm going to do it.

 

[dannnex male]

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Well, even if we can fix the 4th wall stuff, I still think it’s a little OP, and not defined very well. What are the powers of the emerald atlas in more detail, and how would your character use them?

And again, being from outside the cosmere will end up being one of your characters defining traits, it’s a big deal in this thread. Kacen’s organization is very focused on that sort of anomaly apparently, they kidnapped Meira just because she was from RandLand, being from normal Earth seems like a much bigger deal. It seems like you want to focus your character more on the dead brother thing, being from outside the cosmere would end up overshadowing that. 
 

Anyone else have any thoughts? I haven’t read the emerald atlas books so I don’t really know how to judge the power level of it.

[Channelknight Fadran]

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I haven't read those books either. I think that worrying about a character being too OP isn't something we should stress too much about, but if a character could travel between Universes at will without any difficulty, then... yeah, that's a bit too OP.

 

[Condensation she/her]

1 minute ago, Danex said:

Well, even if we can fix the 4th wall stuff, I still think it’s a little OP, and not defined very well. What are the powers of the emerald atlas in more detail, and how would your character use them?

And again, being from outside the cosmere will end up being one of your characters defining traits, it’s a big deal in this thread. Kacen’s organization is very focused on that sort of anomaly apparently, they kidnapped Meira just because she was from RandLand, being from normal Earth seems like a much bigger deal. It seems like you want to focus your character more on the dead brother thing, being from outside the cosmere would end up overshadowing that. 
 

Anyone else have any thoughts? I haven’t read the emerald atlas books so I don’t really know how to judge the power level of it.

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It's not as OP as it seems, I'm probably just misrepresenting the books...

So when you are first bonded to the book, you generally need a picture to go someplace or to something, but once you've dealt with it a little more, you can do it by picturing somewhere or something. 
If she doesn't know about the universe or anything, she can't go there. It also takes more effort to go farther. You can shield yourself from being found...
Again, if she's thinking that she is just in the far future or the far past, she wouldn't say that she's from far away.

It's not really at will, Fadran, it's harder than I've made it seem.

 

[dannnex male]

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I’m just trying to see if I can think of a way to accomplish what you want the character to be able to do, but in a way that makes a little bit more sense in the context of the Macrosmos. 

So she is from a universe that is very similar to normal irl earth, except that they have magic books. She was reading Mistborn and got teleported out of her own universe and into a different one. (Rather than having the FotTCosmere be a nested universe within the book.) This universe is very similar to the actual Cosmere™️ Canon, but with the notable differences of:
1. It is more able to connect with other universes
2. All of our characters exist here
3. All of the events of the RP happen here

So that can kinda explain how she got here without demolishing the 4th wall, but the mechanics of the Atlas still seem iffy to me. Can she just think of literally any book and then go to that universe? Except this is a Macrosmos, any and all universes exist here, can she just think of any possible universe and go there? And bring anything back? 

 

[Condensation she/her]

29 minutes ago, Danex said:

Can she just think of literally any book and then go to that universe? Except this is a Macrosmos, any and all universes exist here, can she just think of any possible universe and go there? And bring anything back? 

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No, no, she couldn't do that. Only beings of ultimate power could do whatever they wanted. It's like in Steelheart how Firefight can pull from closer universes, but it gets harder the farther away they are, except it grows close to exponentially.

 

Edited October 6, 2020 by Condensation