Stormtide_Leviathan Posted September 1, 2020 Posted September 1, 2020 So in the Rhythm of War epigraphs, as I'm sure we're all freaking out about, it's being revealed that the allomantic metals seem to have universal properties of some sort with regards to investiture- the known effects of metals on fabrials is very similar to the allomantic effect of that metal. We have seen similar universal threads as well. Color is an important property to both Nalthian magic and Rosharan magic (specifically with regards to gemstones, in the case of the latter). There seems to be a correlation with sound as well; allomancy produces sound that bronze burners can pick up on that is related to the Rhythms of Roshar. This leads me to wonder if the 10 Essences used in Soulcasting have similar cosmeric properties as well. The ten essences are as follows: Essences Number Gemstone Essence Body Focus Soulcasting Properties Divine Attributes 1 Jes Sapphire Zephyr Inhalation Translucent gas, air Protecting Leading 2 Nan Smokestone Vapor Exhalation Opaque gas, smoke, fog Just Confident[nb 1] 3 Chach Ruby Spark The Soul Fire Brave Obedient 4 Vev Diamond Lucentia The Eyes Quartz, glass, crystal Loving Healing 5 Palah Emerald Pulp The Hair Wood, plants, moss Learned Giving[nb 1] 6 Shash Garnet Blood The Blood Blood, all non-oil liquid Creative Honest 7 Betab Zircon Tallow Oil All kinds of oil Wise Careful 8 Kak Amethyst Foil The Nails Metal Resolute Builder 9 Tanat Topaz Talus The Bone Rock and stone Dependable Resourceful 10 Ishi Heliodor Sinew Flesh Meat, flesh Pious Guiding Now we don't honestly know too much about these, so it's hard to speculate, but the ones that stand out to me are metals (as seen in the metallic arts and now fabrials) and blood (as seen in hemallurgy, and possibly also relating to why dead shardblades need 10 heartbeats). Do any of you much-more-knowledgeable-than-I people have any thoughts on this matter? Or theories for how they might connect, however unfounded they are?
Karger he/him Posted September 1, 2020 Posted September 1, 2020 4 hours ago, Stormtide_Leviathan said: This leads me to wonder if the 10 Essences used in Soulcasting have similar cosmeric properties as well Not really, sorry. Polstones and essences are more of a philosophical/theological construct(at least from what we understand). Color is very important as are metals in the cosmere. We don't yet know why. Would you like me to dig up the WoBs?
Stormtide_Leviathan Posted September 2, 2020 Author Posted September 2, 2020 16 hours ago, Karger said: Would you like me to dig up the WoBs? Sure!
Karger he/him Posted September 2, 2020 Posted September 2, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Stormtide_Leviathan said: Sure! To start with we have this from Khriss in the ars arcanum. Quote As a complement to the Essences, the classical elements celebrated on Roshar, are found the TenSurges. These—thought to be the fundamental forces by which the world operates—are more accurately a representation of the ten basic abilities offered to the Heralds, and then the Knights Radiant, by their bonds Edited September 2, 2020 by Karger
Kramerfarve Posted September 4, 2020 Posted September 4, 2020 I wouldn't focus so much on the body focuses and divine attributes, but I think that the essences and soulcasting properties would be important things to consider in the cosmere going forward. I'm thinking that people with enough cosmere knowledge could create some creative magic system combinations using the gems, metals, breaths, etc. I mean fabrials on their own are an incredibly complex magic system, given that there are three variable factors in the wire type, gem type, and spren type.
Halyo_Alex he/him Posted September 4, 2020 Posted September 4, 2020 15 hours ago, Kramerfarve said: I mean fabrials on their own are an incredibly complex magic system, given that there are three variable factors in the wire type, gem type, and spren type. Don't forget the cut of the gem in addition to the type. That's a fourth variable.
Kramerfarve Posted September 4, 2020 Posted September 4, 2020 28 minutes ago, Halyo_Alex said: Don't forget the cut of the gem in addition to the type. That's a fourth variable. As far as I've read into it the cut only matters with the efficiency of the fabrial, which is why I left it out, but I could be wrong about that.
Halyo_Alex he/him Posted September 4, 2020 Posted September 4, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Kramerfarve said: As far as I've read into it the cut only matters with the efficiency of the fabrial, which is why I left it out, but I could be wrong about that. Hang on, lemme grab some of the illustrations of Navani's notes on fabrials. Yep, here's the bit I was thinking of. Aaand it swallowed the picture i pasted. ONE SECOND PLEASE. Edit: HERE. https://coppermind.net/w/images/Navani1.jpg Top bit of that page. Edited September 4, 2020 by Halyo_Alex Fixed
StanLemon Posted September 7, 2020 Posted September 7, 2020 On 9/3/2020 at 9:15 PM, Kramerfarve said: I wouldn't focus so much on the body focuses and divine attributes Divine attributes seem to have a relationship with the Oaths that Radiance's swear, so body focus might also turn out to be important
Eternal Khol he/him Posted September 7, 2020 Posted September 7, 2020 (edited) On 9/1/2020 at 9:50 AM, Stormtide_Leviathan said: There seems to be a correlation with sound as well; allomancy produces sound that bronze burners can pick up on that is related to the Rhythms of Roshar. Thats not even real Sound. only you would hear it. its more like a Pulse through your soul and its not just Allomancy that makes pulses any magic system/planet with Kinetic Investiture would have them Kinetic investiture in general, gives off “Radiation” or “pulses” or something is how brandon describes it, that is capable of being detected by things like seekers Like how the sun gives off radiation that we can detect(heat and light) and radiation we cant detect(infrared) with our naked eye investiture does something similar, and can be detected by certain people or animals This is a pretty bad analogy. But its all i got Edited September 7, 2020 by Eternal Khol
Commander Azure Posted September 7, 2020 Posted September 7, 2020 On 9/4/2020 at 3:01 PM, Halyo_Alex said: Hang on, lemme grab some of the illustrations of Navani's notes on fabrials. Yep, here's the bit I was thinking of. Aaand it swallowed the picture i pasted. ONE SECOND PLEASE. Edit: HERE. https://coppermind.net/w/images/Navani1.jpg Top bit of that page. Where'd you get that?
Agent34 Posted September 8, 2020 Posted September 8, 2020 6 hours ago, StanLemon said: Divine attributes seem to have a relationship with the Oaths that Radiance's swear, so body focus might also turn out to be important It might be coincidence but a couple of the Divine Attributes show up on Nalthis with the Returned. Lightsong the Brave and Blushweaver the Honest.
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