Dawnshard Prologue

[Eternal Khol he/him]

50 minutes ago, Gilphon said:

This could be the day after the Kaza interlude for all we know. 

It says in the prologue, that the Winds pleasure had been missing for 5 months(or half a year)

 

Spoiler

“No sign of any ship logs, and no sign of any crew—living or dead. Just a name. First Dreams, a private ship that the lieutenant remembered hearing about. It had vanished five months prior during a trip to a forbidden island, the detains only emerging after it had been gone a few months.

Edited August 7, 2020 by Eternal Khol

[Wyndle88 he/him]

So glad Yalb survived. One of my fav. Character from Wotk. 

I hope Rysn' ship Wandersail doesn't loose it's crew as Sleepless cook from Kaza' ship is likely to get involved. 

The novella name and with the information from new release chapters of RoW, a Dawnshard is definitely confirmed to be in Aimia and access to it could be the reason humans have done much better in the war against Odium than previously thought possible.

[Michael Portz he/him]

11 hours ago, Gears said:

Option 1: He didn't know the identity of the person on the ship [thought she was a mid-ranked lighteyes or something like that]. Option 2: He doesn't know the identity of the queen [or associate the queen with the passenger. Jasnah could be a common name. Or he just rejects the possibility that he had the queen on his ship because it's so ludicrous. Option 3: He's still in shock about the events and hasn't thought about it logically.

9 hours ago, Innovation said:

Option 4: Yalb thinks Jasnah is dead. She was stabbed through the heart after all. 

I do find it hard to believe, that Yalb is not aware of the fact, that they transported Jasnah Kholin on the Winds of Pleasure. When first transporting Shallan the crew must have been aware, that Shallan wanted to find Jasnah Kholin, the famous scholar. When they left Kharbranth with two passengers, they all must have been aware, that the elder boss woman was Jasnah Kholin.

And I find it hard to believe as well, that when announcing the new Alethi Queen nobody found it worth mentioning that this queen was Jasnah Kholin.

*shrug* Just my two pence ... 

[GudThymes he/him]

13 hours ago, Eternal Khol said:

It would’ve been caught out in at least a dozen highstorms and everstorms.

during the Kaza interlude the whole crew went to the island and left the ship. So it should’ve been out there the whole time.

it should’ve went under when the storms past.

otherwise people wouldnt need to hide in coves and stuff along the coasts, when they came.  right?

Well, Aimia is west of Shinovar and we know highstorms aren't felt there (although it passes over) so I imagine that in the waters between Shinovar and Aimia a ship could drift indefinitely (this can happen in real life).

However, the Everstorm exists, and we know it is strong across the whole continent. So we would assume that this would have sunk the ship. However, Odium has control over the storm as well as a form of futuresight. My theory is that Odium purposefully steered the First Dreams using his storm into a position that it would be intercepted leading a crew of humans onto Aimia. I don't think this is far fetched given the amount of mystery that surrounds Aimia as well as the fact that unmade have had their focus on it (theories on the unmade causing the scouring, etc.). What if Odium knows that he can't get what he wants from Aimia himself so he set up humanity to go there for him, retrieve it, and now he'll snatch it up from them.

[Karger he/him]

7 hours ago, Michael Portz said:

And I find it hard to believe as well, that when announcing the new Alethi Queen nobody found it worth mentioning that this queen was Jasnah Kholin.

Very few monarchies like the monarch to be called by name.  Usually they go by title.  In formal situations Jasnah was always called Brightness.  Since most people did not have direct exposure to their monarchs they tended to think of them that way.

1 hour ago, GudThymes said:

However, the Everstorm exists, and we know it is strong across the whole continent. So we would assume that this would have sunk the ship. However, Odium has control over the storm as well as a form of futuresight. My theory is that Odium purposefully steered the First Dreams using his storm into a position that it would be intercepted leading a crew of humans onto Aimia. I don't think this is far fetched given the amount of mystery that surrounds Aimia as well as the fact that unmade have had their focus on it (theories on the unmade causing the scouring, etc.). What if Odium knows that he can't get what he wants from Aimia himself so he set up humanity to go there for him, retrieve it, and now he'll snatch it up from them.

It could also be that the everstorm, an artificial construct with an intended purpose ignored a ship with no people on it.

Edited August 7, 2020 by Karger

[BitSussBtw]

On 07/08/2020 at 7:54 AM, Chiberty said:

It's interesting that when Yalb is thinking about the Alethi queen, he didn't also think about how she was a passenger on his ship--and wasn't one of the three survivors.

Good catch! Will probably be addressed in later drafts

[+Oltux72 he/him]

On 07/08/2020 at 3:03 AM, Innovation said:

The ship was attacked by assassins, and the only possible targets would be Jasnah and Shallan. He probably assumes that Jasnah was killed. 

Or Jasnah's soulcaster. A very valuable artifact.

On 07/08/2020 at 4:38 AM, Eternal Khol said:

It would’ve been caught out in at least a dozen highstorms and everstorms.

during the Kaza interlude the whole crew went to the island and left the ship. So it should’ve been out there the whole time.

That contains the unstated assumption that the killers found no intermediate use for the ship.

[GudThymes he/him]

39 minutes ago, Oltux72 said:

That contains the unstated assumption that the killers found no intermediate use for the ship.

The "killers" were just a single Dysian Aimian (the cook from the interlude). I like this theory, but if they were using it I'm sure it would have been spotted somewhere in the half a year its been missing.

[+Invocation]

7 hours ago, Oltux72 said:

That contains the unstated assumption that the killers found no intermediate use for the ship.

The Sleepless that killed all the people left immediately. She poisoned the stew for everyone to eat and then got into one of the boats, hit the mainland as everyone died, had one last conversation with Kaza then stole her Soulcaster and dissolved into her composite cremlings that may have been (partially or wholly) sent out to sea after Kaza's final Casting. There may not have been time for her to get back to the ship and do anything with it, nor may she have wanted to, since it floating around would have added to the rumors of Aimia being life-ending.

[+Oltux72 he/him]

2 hours ago, Invocation said:

The Sleepless that killed all the people left immediately. She poisoned the stew for everyone to eat and then got into one of the boats, hit the mainland as everyone died, had one last conversation with Kaza then stole her Soulcaster and dissolved into her composite cremlings that may have been (partially or wholly) sent out to sea after Kaza's final Casting. There may not have been time for her to get back to the ship and do anything with it, nor may she have wanted to, since it floating around would have added to the rumors of Aimia being life-ending.

One single Sleepless can hardly watch the whole coast. She must have colleagues.

And did they leave the obstacles unrepaired?

[+Invocation]

11 hours ago, Oltux72 said:

One single Sleepless can hardly watch the whole coast. She must have colleagues.

A single Sleepless doesn't need to guard a ton of the cost when they can work their way onto the boat and poison everyone. Seems to be a solid method of doing things for the few ships that can actually make it past the storms to get there.

11 hours ago, Oltux72 said:

And did they leave the obstacles unrepaired?

I'm not convinced that the Sleepless would be doing that. Can they even Soulcast, since they're made of cremlings?

[+Oltux72 he/him]

37 minutes ago, Invocation said:

A single Sleepless doesn't need to guard a ton of the cost when they can work their way onto the boat and poison everyone. Seems to be a solid method of doing things for the few ships that can actually make it past the storms to get there.

Indeed. If they and the ship are in the same harbor. At a minimum you need as many Sleepless as there are plausible harbors to start an expedition to Aimia from.

37 minutes ago, Invocation said:

I'm not convinced that the Sleepless would be doing that. Can they even Soulcast, since they're made of cremlings?

If so, who made the obstacles and will they redo them?

[+Invocation]

37 minutes ago, Oltux72 said:

Indeed. If they and the ship are in the same harbor. At a minimum you need as many Sleepless as there are plausible harbors to start an expedition to Aimia from.

Easier than it seems, given how large the supercontinent is, and the extreme frequency of storms. Most people launching for Aimia would go from the nearest coast, so they'd just have to concentrate on the few ports that are sheltered enough to survive highstorms. Not a hard task, given that Sleepless seem to have some way of knowing what and who are important to get near them.

40 minutes ago, Oltux72 said:

If so, who made the obstacles and will they redo them?

I don't think Aimia is as scoured as people think it is.