Unworldly Posted September 26, 2011 Report Share Posted September 26, 2011 Szeth was the one who wrote the words found near him - the dying request is apparently sacred to the Shin, and since he couldn't hang around to pass on Gavilar's final words as requested, he wrote them using Gavilar's finger and Gavilar's blood. The assumption that Gavilar himself wrote them was made by those who viewed the body later - they all assumed it was just another facet of his increasingly un-Alethi worldview (and therefore Dalinar talks about how it is vaguely disturbing that Gavilar could write - but as far as we know, Gavilar was illiterate at the time of his death) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wispsy Posted September 26, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 26, 2011 ye i realised it was szeth who wrote it but i was referring to the time dalinar was thinking about what happened and if at that point he thought about who found the body first for hints about the shards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unworldly Posted September 27, 2011 Report Share Posted September 27, 2011 (edited) Oh, right. I don't recall him thinking about who found the body first but I imagine it would have been the guards who shepherded Sadeas from the room when he was acting as the distraction. Likely once they saw their distraction had failed, they would have returned to see what had happened, and found Gavilar dead. Edited September 27, 2011 by Unworldly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordofsoup Posted September 28, 2011 Report Share Posted September 28, 2011 Its not like anyone could have just picked up Galivar's shards. They were completely destroyed by Szeth, if someone claimed them, by saying that they had won them, they would be accused of killing the king, and subsequently put to death. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tortellini Posted September 29, 2011 Report Share Posted September 29, 2011 The Alethi must have them, the plate at least. Shardplate is incredibly heavy, so stealing it is not a one-man thing. Wearing it and running away would not work either since the plate was quite damaged... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterAhlstrom Posted September 29, 2011 Report Share Posted September 29, 2011 What exact quote makes you think Elhokar doesn't have Gavilar's sword? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wispsy Posted September 29, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 29, 2011 (edited) Well I'm quite sure dalinar says to adolin that he gave the first shards he won off the parshendi to elhokar as the king needed them but cant find it ATM will look later but they are described looking differently anyway Prologue - "an enormous Shardblade six feet long with a design along the blade like burning flame" Compared to Chapter 13 - "[sunraiser] was long and thin with a large crossguard and was etched up the sides with the ten fundamental glyphs." edit == got it chapter 18 - "Dalinar had won a Parshendi Shardblade and Plate during his first year here. He'd given both to Elhokar to award to a warrior he felt would be the most useful to Alethkar and the war effort." Edited September 29, 2011 by Wispsy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gagylpus Posted September 30, 2011 Report Share Posted September 30, 2011 chapter 18 -"Dalinar had won a Parshendi Shardblade and Plate during his first year here. He'd given both to Elhokar to award to a warrior he felt would be the most useful to Alethkar and the war effort." IE Dalinar gave the shards to Elhokar, not for Elhokar to use, but for Elhokar to then award them to an honoured warrior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wispsy Posted September 30, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 30, 2011 then what happened to the ones he got from gavilar and why doesnt elhokar lend them out to people dueling instead of the ones he uses which he doesnt like giving up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zas678 Posted October 1, 2011 Report Share Posted October 1, 2011 Because one person having two sets of Shardblade seems excessive, to say the least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unworldly Posted October 4, 2011 Report Share Posted October 4, 2011 I wonder if someone can even have two Shardblades bonded to them at the same time... I recall reading that the method by which one summons a Shardblade is made known and becomes instinctive to that person the first time they pick up the Shardblade (seems to be indicated via the flashing of the gemstone in the pommel, at least in the one case we've seen of something grabbing a Shardblade for the first time), but the method seems to be identical for all 'blades - at least, even non-Shardbearers recognise when someone is summoning their 'blade; their posture seems to be a give-away, and all of them we've seen in viewpoints so far have the 10-heartbeat delay mechanism. So if you have *two* 'blades, how do you choose which one you want to summon? Or do they both turn up - one in each hand? I can imagine some funny scenarios where someone has more than two 'blades, and when they summon a Shardblade they end up with Shardblades falling everywhere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silus - Shard of Flame Posted October 4, 2011 Report Share Posted October 4, 2011 Dual wielding Shardblades, a scary proposition. We can be glad that Szeth didn't take Gavilar's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unworldly Posted October 4, 2011 Report Share Posted October 4, 2011 Or we can be disappointed... How AWESOME would those fight sequences be?! But I guess you're speaking from the view of his opposition in that circumstance, in which case yeah, I agree that would be rather unfair (and make Szeth nigh-unstoppable). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordofsoup Posted October 13, 2011 Report Share Posted October 13, 2011 I dont really think that an extra Shardblade would help Szeth that much if it was 6 feet long as Gavilar's was, unless they actually conform to the shape of their user's desires. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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