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[Aeoryi she/her]

21 minutes ago, CoderDrag0n8 said:

Bang by AJR)

I've heard this one I don't really like it though

21 minutes ago, CoderDrag0n8 said:

High Hopes by Panic! At The Disco)

this is pretty good but the lyrics are just words tbh

21 minutes ago, CoderDrag0n8 said:

We Didn't Start The Fire by Billy Joel)

okay true but that's just because it's a good song

22 minutes ago, CoderDrag0n8 said:

Welcome To The Internet by Bo Burnham) (Incredibly R-Rated, listen to at your own risk, listener discretion advised, more than just bad language)

uhhhhhh as much as I do like this song I don't really think it's made better by the lyrics

 

[CoderDrag0n8 He/They]

50 minutes ago, Aeoryi said:

I've heard this one I don't really like it though

this is pretty good but the lyrics are just words tbh

okay true but that's just because it's a good song

uhhhhhh as much as I do like this song I don't really think it's made better by the lyrics

 

Wait wait wait

So you are saying

That-You are saying that you dont like lyrics, unless the lyrics are good

Hot, controversal take. Wild, wild stuff.

And please do enlighten me how Welcome to the Internet would have any resemblance to itself if gone away with the lyrics.

[Aeoryi she/her]

1 minute ago, CoderDrag0n8 said:

Wait wait wait

So you are saying

That-You are saying that you dont like lyrics, unless the lyrics are good

Hot, controversal take. Wild, wild stuff.

And please do enlighten me how Welcome to the Internet would have any resemblance to itself if gone away with the lyrics.

welcome to the internet is not a song I'm discussing :3

the lyrics are bad unless they're consistently good and don't work against the song...

[CoderDrag0n8 He/They]

2 minutes ago, Aeoryi said:

welcome to the internet is not a song I'm discussing :3

the lyrics are bad unless they're consistently good and don't work against the song...

Well, then can you tell me how a song can tell a story if you aren't a pitch-perfect god that can see and decipher hidden clues in sheet music as you are listening to a song, or it is just a reference that brings you joy, or is just a fun song that doesn't tell a meaningful story?

Sorry if I come across a little rude, I just feel strongly and am not good at expressing strong feelings about an opinion difference without coming off this way.

[Aeoryi she/her]

6 minutes ago, CoderDrag0n8 said:

Well, then can you tell me how a song can tell a story if you aren't a pitch-perfect god that can see and decipher hidden clues in sheet music as you are listening to a song, or it is just a reference that brings you joy, or is just a fun song that doesn't tell a meaningful story?

Sorry if I come across a little rude, I just feel strongly and am not good at expressing strong feelings about an opinion difference without coming off this way.

A song can tell a story that's more beautiful because it's unique to the listener, because it's unique with each interpretation. Sounds alone can convey emotions, settings, characters, and progression.

Words, on the other hand, tend to impede that. It takes a lot of mastery to communicate through music, but little to communicate through words. By putting words to your music, it feels like you are ruining the music by taking a shortcut. I tend to appreciate art forms that have lots of passion within them, so this is a reflection of my tastes. You may choose to think otherwise. 

[CoderDrag0n8 He/They]

7 minutes ago, Aeoryi said:

A song can tell a story that's more beautiful because it's unique to the listener, because it's unique with each interpretation. Sounds alone can convey emotions, settings, characters, and progression.

Words, on the other hand, tend to impede that. It takes a lot of mastery to communicate through music, but little to communicate through words. By putting words to your music, it feels like you are ruining the music by taking a shortcut. I tend to appreciate art forms that have lots of passion within them, so this is a reflection of my tastes. You may choose to think otherwise. 

How do sounds alone communicate characters or settings? I understand emotions, and progression, but settings and characters are a bit of a stretch. As much as I do agree with the unique to each interpretation, I severely disagree with the sentiment of it being a shortcut. I have a question for you: How do you understand the music's story without lyrics? Because I am a very story-oriented person, and as much as I enjoy the sentiment of something being unique with each interpretation, how much of that is the song's storytelling, and how much of that is you imagining a story that aligns with the song?

[Aeoryi she/her]

Just now, CoderDrag0n8 said:

How do sounds alone communicate characters or settings? I understand emotions, and progression, but settings and characters are a bit of a stretch. As much as I do agree with the unique to each interpretation, I severely disagree with the sentiment of it being a shortcut. I have a question for you: How do you understand the music's story without lyrics? Because I am a very story-oriented person, and as much as I enjoy the sentiment of something being unique with each interpretation, how much of that is the song's storytelling, and how much of that is you imagining a story that aligns with the song?

Musical progression... you can listen to a song and tell if it is sad or happy or fast or slow or whether the wind is blowing or the rain is falling. There are famous examples of characters being portrayed through different instruments, for example. 

[CoderDrag0n8 He/They]

1 minute ago, Aeoryi said:

Musical progression... you can listen to a song and tell if it is sad or happy or fast or slow or whether the wind is blowing or the rain is falling. There are famous examples of characters being portrayed through different instruments, for example. 

I still don't understand why you so incredibly hate lyrics, however. You just don't like how they are... easy to understand?

[Honors Spectral Image She/her]

2 hours ago, Aeoryi said:

give me one song that has meaningful lyrics (that includes the entire thing not just half of it)

Okkkk, big thief simulation swarm, big thief velvet ring, Jesse Welles Walmart, my chemical romance The End

I agree with and disagree with both yall, I think words can add great meaning to songs but I also think songs can tell stories without them, go listen to Nocturno by Richard Strauss it tells the story of a man who’s first children and wife died and he’s writing a lullaby for his son in a second marriage, it’s also not too long I personally like the one by John cerminaro

[Aeoryi she/her]

7 minutes ago, CoderDrag0n8 said:

I still don't understand why you so incredibly hate lyrics, however. You just don't like how they are... easy to understand?

I just hate songs that end up being generic and overrated because they have lyrics describing how the songwriter bought a truck, got drunk, got a girl, and then bought a red truck. Those types of songs aren't good.

5 minutes ago, Through The Living Ghost said:

Okkkk, big thief simulation swarm, big thief velvet ring, Jesse Welles Walmart, my chemical romance The End

I agree with and disagree with both yall, I think words can add great meaning to songs but I also think songs can tell stories without them, go listen to Nocturno by Richard Strauss it tells the story of a man who’s first children and wife died and he’s writing a lullaby for his son in a second marriage, it’s also not too long I personally like the one by John cerminaro

I was told my chemical romance was emo

 

[Honors Spectral Image She/her]

2 hours ago, Aeoryi said:

give me one song that has meaningful lyrics (that includes the entire thing not just half of it)

Pumped up kicks by foster the people, Trinidad by geese, cemetary drive by mcr, king for a day by green day

1 minute ago, Aeoryi said:

I just hate songs that end up being generic and overrated because they have lyrics describing how the songwriter bought a truck, got drunk, got a girl, and then bought a red truck. Those types of songs aren't good.

I was told my chemical romance was emo

 

Oh agreed lol those songs are sooo butttttt they mean nothing but most songs aren’t like that, oh mcr is emo kinda technically when it comes to musicality it’s pop punk but they’re definitely also emo, I love emo music

[CoderDrag0n8 He/They]

6 minutes ago, Through The Living Ghost said:

Okkkk, big thief simulation swarm, big thief velvet ring, Jesse Welles Walmart, my chemical romance The End

Oh yeah, also @Aeoryi there were a bunch of songs on my playlist you just skipped over (i understand, was big list) but ill give my top few here rn

(Ship In A Bottle by Fin)

(Without Me by Eminem)

(Never Acting At All by Melina KB)

(Two Birds by Regina Specter)

(Count On Me by Bruno Mars)

(Piano Man by Billy Joel)

(Rat by Penelope Scott) (Has severe cursing all throughout)

(Eleanor Rigby by Cody Fry)

(History Hates Lovers by Oublaire)

(Silver Springs by Fleetwood Mac)

(American Idiot by Green Day)

Are musicals cheating, or do you hate all of those too?

(For Good from Wicked)

(Dead Girl Walking (Reprise) from Heathers The Musical)

(No Longer You from Epic The Musical)

(The World Was Wide Enough from Hamilton The Musical)

And this list is me trimming it down from a trimmed down list

7 minutes ago, Through The Living Ghost said:

Okkkk, big thief simulation swarm, big thief velvet ring, Jesse Welles Walmart, my chemical romance The End

I agree with and disagree with both yall, I think words can add great meaning to songs but I also think songs can tell stories without them, go listen to Nocturno by Richard Strauss it tells the story of a man who’s first children and wife died and he’s writing a lullaby for his son in a second marriage, it’s also not too long I personally like the one by John cerminaro

I agree with Aeoryi, I just disagree with her take on 'lyrics are bad period'

1 minute ago, Aeoryi said:

I just hate songs that end up being generic and overrated because they have lyrics describing how the songwriter bought a truck, got drunk, got a girl, and then bought a red truck. Those types of songs aren't good.

I was told my chemical romance was emo

 

My Chemical Romance is emo, Honors Ghost is very emo

So. You are saying that you dislike songs with lyrics because some of them are bad?

[Honors Spectral Image She/her]

1 minute ago, CoderDrag0n8 said:

Oh yeah, also @Aeoryi there were a bunch of songs on my playlist you just skipped over (i understand, was big list) but ill give my top few here rn

(Ship In A Bottle by Fin)

(Without Me by Eminem)

(Never Acting At All by Melina KB)

(Two Birds by Regina Specter)

(Count On Me by Bruno Mars)

(Piano Man by Billy Joel)

(Rat by Penelope Scott) (Has severe cursing all throughout)

(Eleanor Rigby by Cody Fry)

(History Hates Lovers by Oublaire)

(Silver Springs by Fleetwood Mac)

(American Idiot by Green Day)

Are musicals cheating, or do you hate all of those too?

(For Good from Wicked)

(Dead Girl Walking (Reprise) from Heathers The Musical)

(No Longer You from Epic The Musical)

(The World Was Wide Enough from Hamilton The Musical)

And this list is me trimming it down from a trimmed down list

I agree with Aeoryi, I just disagree with her take on 'lyrics are bad period'

My Chemical Romance is emo, Honors Ghost is very emo

So. You are saying that you dislike songs with lyrics because some of them are bad?

American idiot is amazing, ooo and revolution radio by Green Day, ohhh yeah same , heheheh I love mcr

[Aeoryi she/her]

29 minutes ago, Through The Living Ghost said:

Pumped up kicks by foster the people, Trinidad by geese, cemetary drive by mcr, king for a day by green day

Oh agreed lol those songs are sooo butttttt they mean nothing but most songs aren’t like that, oh mcr is emo kinda technically when it comes to musicality it’s pop punk but they’re definitely also emo, I love emo music

Isn't pumped up kicks Abt a school shooting...

ok so you're emo. Noted :3

28 minutes ago, CoderDrag0n8 said:

Are musicals cheating, or do you hate all of those too?

Musicals aren't bad I'm trying to be open to new things which means I don't hate musicals

 

[CoderDrag0n8 He/They]

27 minutes ago, Aeoryi said:

Isn't pumped up kicks Abt a school shooting...

ok so you're emo. Noted :3

Musicals aren't bad I'm trying to be open to new things which means I don't hate musicals

 

You aren’t responding to any of my actual arguments. Specifically this:

56 minutes ago, CoderDrag0n8 said:

So. You are saying that you dislike songs with lyrics because some of them are bad?

 

[Aeoryi she/her]

8 minutes ago, CoderDrag0n8 said:

You aren’t responding to any of my actual arguments. Specifically this:

 

Most of them are bad. 

[CoderDrag0n8 He/They]

23 minutes ago, Aeoryi said:

Most of them are bad. 

And most works of fiction aren't that good because the writer just started writing, or doesn't have any experience, or was trained wrong, or gets the wrong feedback.

If most paintings are terrible, does that mean you shouldn't go to museums?

If most humans do bad things, does that mean you should stop looking for the good ones?

The logic I see here is that Most songs w/ lyrics are bad, so you stopped looking for the good ones from the good artists with the good stories

[Aeoryi she/her]

5 minutes ago, CoderDrag0n8 said:

And most works of fiction aren't that good because the writer just started writing, or doesn't have any experience, or was trained wrong, or gets the wrong feedback.

If most paintings are terrible, does that mean you shouldn't go to museums?

If most humans do bad things, does that mean you should stop looking for the good ones?

The logic I see here is that Most songs w/ lyrics are bad, so you stopped looking for the good ones from the good artists with the good stories

It's really just a preference thing; I'm not trying to preach that everyone should have the same taste as I do. I'm just justifying my own taste because you asked that for me.

[Honors Spectral Image She/her]

1 hour ago, Aeoryi said:

Isn't pumped up kicks Abt a school shooting...

ok so you're emo. Noted :3

Musicals aren't bad I'm trying to be open to new things which means I don't hate musicals

 

Yes it is it’s lyrics have loads of meaning OH AND COLUMBINE HIGH BLUES another good song bout a school shooting

 

51 minutes ago, Aeoryi said:

Most of them are bad. 

I heavily disagree pls present evidence hehehehe this is so fun guys, I agree partly with aeoryi tho but I also kinda like some “fluff” songs sometimes like I don’t listen to Chappel roan bc the songs mean stuff I listen to her bc sometimes it’s fun to be slontzey yk?

I actually have a whole playlist abt school shootings

It’s rly good/sad

[Honors Spectral Image She/her]

I’m realizing I listen to a concerningly large amount of songs abt school shootings, granted it’s always been something I’ve been aware of one of the first school shootings happened at a elementary school in the state I live in, but anyways bang bang by Green Day and kill all your friends by My Chemical Romance are both excellent songs

[CoderDrag0n8 He/They]

1 hour ago, Aeoryi said:

It's really just a preference thing; I'm not trying to preach that everyone should have the same taste as I do. I'm just justifying my own taste because you asked that for me.

I know, I am just trying to defend a piece of media I enjoy from what I see as a very biased view.

[SpartanBrigade He/Him]

On 4/17/2026 at 5:59 PM, Aeoryi said:

give me one song that has meaningful lyrics (that includes the entire thing not just half of it)

Under Pressure by Queen
Every song by Bob Dylan
Every song by Jesse Welles
A lot of songs by Simon and Garfunkel
So on so forth
And you don't need every song to be lyrical poetry
Sometimes you just wanna listen to something with a fun beat and cliche lyrics like The Clash or The Cars or what not

Edited April 20 by SpartanBrigade

[Kansas Stormcursed he/him]

On 4/17/2026 at 5:59 PM, Aeoryi said:

give me one song that has meaningful lyrics (that includes the entire thing not just half of it)

By artist:

Noah Kahan

-Stick Season

-The Great Divide

Sam Barber

-literally most of the Broken View Album, and honestly the Restless Mind album too

-also just like most of his singles

Zach Bryan

-Cold Damn Vampires

-Heading South

Cameron Whitcomb

-Options

-The Hard Way

Stephen Wilson Kr.

-Grief Is Only Love

-Kid

-All the Wars from Now On

Billy Joel

-Goodnight Saigon

-Piano Man

Black Sabbath

-War Pigs

Literally almost all of Bob Dylan's songs

Same for Joan Baez

Jason Isbell

-Elephant

-24 Frames

-Dress Blues

-St. Peter's Autograph

-It Gets Easier

[SpartanBrigade He/Him]

8 minutes ago, Kansas Stormcursed said:

By artist:

Noah Kahan

-Stick Season

-The Great Divide

Sam Barber

-literally most of the Broken View Album, and honestly the Restless Mind album too

-also just like most of his singles

Zach Bryan

-Cold Damn Vampires

-Heading South

Cameron Whitcomb

-Options

-The Hard Way

Stephen Wilson Kr.

-Grief Is Only Love

-Kid

-All the Wars from Now On

Billy Joel

-Goodnight Saigon

-Piano Man

Black Sabbath

-War Pigs

Literally almost all of Bob Dylan's songs

Same for Joan Baez

Jason Isbell

-Elephant

-24 Frames

-Dress Blues

-St. Peter's Autograph

-It Gets Easier

I'll also toss in Seven Seas of Rye by Queen
There are loads more but my mind is fuzzy at the moment

Edited April 20 by SpartanBrigade

[Honors Spectral Image She/her]

4 minutes ago, SpartanBrigade said:

I'll also toss in Seven Seas of Rye by Queen
There are loads more but my mind is fuzzy at the moment

Bahaha yeahhh nooo u kinda can’t say you hate all songs with words lollll