Certified Gay Disasters

[Brightnerd Zoodle they/them]

petition for one of the pfp months to be blahaj

[Aeoryi she/her]

3 minutes ago, Keke said:

Mmm that voice one is kinda confusing me. What do you mean?

Voices that go through testosterone based puberty have the effects of testosterone based puberty on the larynx. The vocal folds in the larynx become thicker or something and that causes the voice to sound more gravel like and darker. It sounds 'heavier' for instance. The larynx is the part of your respiratory tract before the trachea (your windpipe, leads to lungs) and the epiglottis (which is what prevents food from going down the trachea). It is what allows you to speak. 

There's a common misconception that pitch is what makes people determine your gender based on your voice, that men have lower voices and women have higher voices. While this is partially true, about 95% of people (male and female) will be in an androgynous pitch range where their voice can be recognized as either male or female. Pitch actually does very little for your gender.

Resonance and vocal weight matter in terms of others recognizing your gender based on your voice alone. Resonance refers to where you form sounds. Feminine voices tend to have phonation (where you form your sound, where it seems to "come from") at or even outside the mouth, where as most masculine voices tend to seem to come from the throat or even chest. 

Vocal weight is how your voice sounds, whether it sounds heavy or light, or light or dark. Masculine voice tend to fall in the heavy/dark range, which basically means it sounds like rumbling. 

Both of these changes tend to come pretty quickly if/when you start T, so don't worry about it too much.

15 minutes ago, Honors Ghost said:

I wish I lived in Canada I can’t take hrt until I’m 18 and if I showed up to school female presenting I’d get beat up

Canada is awesome depending on the province (healthcare is provincially managed). I can't take HRT without having parent consent, however, but it's definitely much more accessible here than it is in parts of where you live, probably 

[Keke They/he]

46 minutes ago, Hmmm lies said:

Oh hell, I opened this, figuring that with the lack of warnings it would be fine. However I can guess from context exactly what was in the original spoiler box.

Nevermind

I can't stop you I guess

 

Anyway sorry I missed so much I was doing a thing

Also @Aeoryi, lucky Canadian.

(As a Marylander, I do get HRT, but Canada seems so nice.)

Mmmm YAY

41 minutes ago, Aeoryi said:

Voices that go through testosterone based puberty have the effects of testosterone based puberty on the larynx. The vocal folds in the larynx become thicker or something and that causes the voice to sound more gravel like and darker. It sounds 'heavier' for instance. The larynx is the part of your respiratory tract before the trachea (your windpipe, leads to lungs) and the epiglottis (which is what prevents food from going down the trachea). It is what allows you to speak. 

There's a common misconception that pitch is what makes people determine your gender based on your voice, that men have lower voices and women have higher voices. While this is partially true, about 95% of people (male and female) will be in an androgynous pitch range where their voice can be recognized as either male or female. Pitch actually does very little for your gender.

Resonance and vocal weight matter in terms of others recognizing your gender based on your voice alone. Resonance refers to where you form sounds. Feminine voices tend to have phonation (where you form your sound, where it seems to "come from") at or even outside the mouth, where as most masculine voices tend to seem to come from the throat or even chest. 

Vocal weight is how your voice sounds, whether it sounds heavy or light, or light or dark. Masculine voice tend to fall in the heavy/dark range, which basically means it sounds like rumbling. 

Both of these changes tend to come pretty quickly if/when you start T, so don't worry about it too much.

Canada is awesome depending on the province (healthcare is provincially managed). I can't take HRT without having parent consent, however, but it's definitely much more accessible here than it is in parts of where you live, probably 

Ah okay

thanks

[Aeoryi she/her]

6 minutes ago, Keke said:

Mmmm YAY

Ah okay

thanks

Sorry if that was too complex rahhhh

If it also helps I think masculine voices are more associated with less intonation, maybe that helps more?

[Akimikoisthecutest]

@Keke, here are some of my tips:

First, solve your disputes face to face. You have to be kind of blunt with each other.

Second, confidence is key.

Third, don't roll your shoulders back, unless you have a rep for being preppy.

And finally, you have to be mentally strong. You often have to deal with jerks, or at least I do, and you can't let them see you get emotional. I know this sounds stereotypical, but instead of breaking down in front of them, break down in the bathroom.

[Aeoryi she/her]

17 minutes ago, Akimikoisthecutest said:

@Keke, here are some of my tips:

First, solve your disputes face to face. You have to be kind of blunt with each other.

Second, confidence is key.

Third, don't roll your shoulders back, unless you have a rep for being preppy.

And finally, you have to be mentally strong. You often have to deal with jerks, or at least I do, and you can't let them see you get emotional. I know this sounds stereotypical, but instead of breaking down in front of them, break down in the bathroom.

These are very good tips btw ^

[Keke They/he]

1 hour ago, Aeoryi said:

Sorry if that was too complex rahhhh

If it also helps I think masculine voices are more associated with less intonation, maybe that helps more?

Mmm got it 

50 minutes ago, Akimikoisthecutest said:

@Keke, here are some of my tips:

First, solve your disputes face to face. You have to be kind of blunt with each other.

Second, confidence is key.

Third, don't roll your shoulders back, unless you have a rep for being preppy.

And finally, you have to be mentally strong. You often have to deal with jerks, or at least I do, and you can't let them see you get emotional. I know this sounds stereotypical, but instead of breaking down in front of them, break down in the bathroom.

AH confrontation.

okay okay i got it! Im pretty confident 

what do you mean by that for the shoulders?

and i already dont breakdown infront of people cause then they ask why and i dont wanna deal with that. So im rocking!

@Hmmm lies @Honors Ghost

idk if you saw this post so just in case. Here is my tips for yal

2 hours ago, Keke said:

TRANSFEMS HERE IS MY LIST OF TIPS AND TRICKS TO BEING A GIRL! (I think alright i wasnt good at being a girl)

When ur sitting dont like sit big. Sit smaller, like crossed legs or like one leg under or stuff like that. 

Long hair, not nesisary but it can help a lot. Even if it’s like shoulder length or shorter. Just no buzzcuts or anything. 

clothes dont really matter that much! Just try to avoid overtly “male” clothes. Dresses/skirts with leggings!

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Bras! Wear em even if you’re not on hrt! The feelings and vibe of them can help! And wear like shoulder cut off shirts to get n awesome vibe!

When walking dont like be all heavy. Try to walk a bit lighter n straigher!

Hand motions when talking: less fists hand motions and more like open handed ones!

smile a lot! 

Lastly! LOVE YOURSELF YOUR AWESOME QUEEN

 

[Hmmm lies she/her]

Hello, everyone.

I am posting right now to call out @certifiedcranedriver.

(To be clear, she knew I was going to make this post ahead of time)

You might know her as the pan trans girl who joined this place out of nowhere, and posts her occasionally.

That is correct.

However, today, I realized that she has pulled off a scheme so audacious, so insane, so unbelievable, and so damn impressive that I realize I have been bamboozled greater than I have in a long time.

(most of you will probably not care nearly as much as I did, but I'm sure you'll appreciate it)

You see, @certifiedcranedriver is a student at my school, one I talk to a lot, who is not out of the closet. I had not realized that these two people were the same until today.

Let me give you some backstory. She had at one point announced that she was beginning "The Secret Operation". Though I asked what this was, she didn't tell me, although she did later inform me that she wanted me to figure it out, and was dropping clues. As it turns out, this Secret Operation was in fact joining the 17th shard and the Certified Gay Disasters thread, as herself, and using it as the most crazy way to come out to someone I have ever seen in my life. (I had previously told her about the thread, and occasionally showed her stuff from there, as well as introducing her to the Cosmere.) She referenced things she said on the Shard in real life (such as the combat pan thing), though I was too dense to notice it initially, and pretty much acts the same way on the Shard as she does in real life, what with long-winded historical facts and her general vibe.

I once even showed her one of her own posts, thinking she would find it funny. She was no doubt giggling so hard inside.

I finally realized it when the following events occurred.

4 hours ago, certifiedcranedriver said:

also one of my friends (or "client") is trying to come out to their parents, y'all got any advice?

Then, in real life, she referred to someone as a "friend/client" (I don't quite remember the context). I froze, remembering where I saw that before. She acted innocent for a moment, before laughing extremely hard as I crashed out when I realized that this is what the Secret Operation was. 

 

I'm going to be so real though, I knew it. I didn't know she was specifically a pan trans girl, but I just figured that there was no way that someone like her was just cishet. And I suppose it would have gone against her nature to come out like a normal person...

 

Got anything to say for yourself?

[KnightSkye Reforged They/Them]

4 minutes ago, Hmmm lies said:

Hello, everyone.

I am posting right now to call out @certifiedcranedriver.

(To be clear, she knew I was going to make this post ahead of time)

You might know her as the pan trans girl who joined this place out of nowhere, and posts her occasionally.

That is correct.

However, today, I realized that she has pulled off a scheme so audacious, so insane, so unbelievable, and so damn impressive that I realize I have been bamboozled greater than I have in a long time.

(most of you will probably not care nearly as much as I did, but I'm sure you'll appreciate it)

You see, @certifiedcranedriver is a student at my school, one I talk to a lot, who is not out of the closet. I had not realized that these two people were the same until today.

Let me give you some backstory. She had at one point announced that she was beginning "The Secret Operation". Though I asked what this was, she didn't tell me, although she did later inform me that she wanted me to figure it out, and was dropping clues. As it turns out, this Secret Operation was in fact joining the 17th shard and the Certified Gay Disasters thread, as herself, and using it as the most crazy way to come out to someone I have ever seen in my life. (I had previously told her about the thread, and occasionally showed her stuff from there, as well as introducing her to the Cosmere.) She referenced things she said on the Shard in real life (such as the combat pan thing), though I was too dense to notice it initially, and pretty much acts the same way on the Shard as she does in real life, what with long-winded historical facts and her general vibe.

I once even showed her one of her own posts, thinking she would find it funny. She was no doubt giggling so hard inside.

I finally realized it when the following events occurred.

Then, in real life, she referred to someone as a "friend/client" (I don't quite remember the context). I froze, remembering where I saw that before. She acted innocent for a moment, before laughing extremely hard as I crashed out when I realized that this is what the Secret Operation was. 

 

I'm going to be so real though, I knew it. I didn't know she was specifically a pan trans girl, but I just figured that there was no way that someone like her was just cishet. And I suppose it would have gone against her nature to come out like a normal person...

 

Got anything to say for yourself?

...Well Damn. 

@certifiedcranedriver BRAVO!!! That is AMAZING and I am laughing so hard rn. That is amazing and you are a gem. 

[Keke They/he]

13 minutes ago, Hmmm lies said:

Hello, everyone.

I am posting right now to call out @certifiedcranedriver.

(To be clear, she knew I was going to make this post ahead of time)

You might know her as the pan trans girl who joined this place out of nowhere, and posts her occasionally.

That is correct.

However, today, I realized that she has pulled off a scheme so audacious, so insane, so unbelievable, and so damn impressive that I realize I have been bamboozled greater than I have in a long time.

(most of you will probably not care nearly as much as I did, but I'm sure you'll appreciate it)

You see, @certifiedcranedriver is a student at my school, one I talk to a lot, who is not out of the closet. I had not realized that these two people were the same until today.

Let me give you some backstory. She had at one point announced that she was beginning "The Secret Operation". Though I asked what this was, she didn't tell me, although she did later inform me that she wanted me to figure it out, and was dropping clues. As it turns out, this Secret Operation was in fact joining the 17th shard and the Certified Gay Disasters thread, as herself, and using it as the most crazy way to come out to someone I have ever seen in my life. (I had previously told her about the thread, and occasionally showed her stuff from there, as well as introducing her to the Cosmere.) She referenced things she said on the Shard in real life (such as the combat pan thing), though I was too dense to notice it initially, and pretty much acts the same way on the Shard as she does in real life, what with long-winded historical facts and her general vibe.

I once even showed her one of her own posts, thinking she would find it funny. She was no doubt giggling so hard inside.

I finally realized it when the following events occurred.

Then, in real life, she referred to someone as a "friend/client" (I don't quite remember the context). I froze, remembering where I saw that before. She acted innocent for a moment, before laughing extremely hard as I crashed out when I realized that this is what the Secret Operation was. 

 

I'm going to be so real though, I knew it. I didn't know she was specifically a pan trans girl, but I just figured that there was no way that someone like her was just cishet. And I suppose it would have gone against her nature to come out like a normal person...

 

Got anything to say for yourself?

XD

this is the best thing ever

7 minutes ago, KnightSkye Reforged said:

...Well Damn. 

@certifiedcranedriver BRAVO!!! That is AMAZING and I am laughing so hard rn. That is amazing and you are a gem. 

@certifiedcranedriver

DUDE THIS IS THE BEST THINGI. HAVE EVER SEEN. THANK YOU FOR THIS. PEAAAK

edit: OFFICALLY ON EOF THE TOP GAYS

Edited January 8 by Keke

[certifiedcranedriver she/her]

13 minutes ago, Hmmm lies said:

I once even showed her one of her own posts, thinking she would find it funny. She was no doubt giggling so hard inside.

yes, I was.
 

 

13 minutes ago, Hmmm lies said:

I'm going to be so real though, I knew it. I didn't know she was specifically a pan trans girl, but I just figured that there was no way that someone like her was just cishet. And I suppose it would have gone against her nature to come out like a normal person...

oh I knew you knew it. I was playing on that. I knew I was suspicious, and that was intentional. 

 

14 minutes ago, Hmmm lies said:

Got anything to say for yourself?

tomorrow's gonna be a fun school day.

[Aeoryi she/her]

You better stick around on the shard though 

Once a sharder always a sharder

Spoiler

crazy use of the diagram though

 

[certifiedcranedriver she/her]

2 minutes ago, Aeoryi said:

You better stick around on the shard though 

Once a sharder always a sharder

I intend to.

[Aeoryi she/her]

3 minutes ago, certifiedcranedriver said:

I intend to.

That's so awesome!!!!! Wait does this mean you're trans?

[Hmmm lies she/her]

7 minutes ago, certifiedcranedriver said:

yes, I was.
 

 

oh I knew you knew it. I was playing on that. I knew I was suspicious, and that was intentional. 

 

tomorrow's gonna be a fun school day.

You audacious little mastermind.

You just know I've got questions for you. But I'll save them for another time, when I don't feel like playing Clair Obscur: Expedition 33

(I already know the joke you're going to make so don't bother)

  

Just now, Aeoryi said:

That's so awesome!!!!! Wait does this mean you're trans?

She uh, did already say that (although I think it was a status update, not a post on here)

 

Edited January 8 by Hmmm lies

[certifiedcranedriver she/her]

7 minutes ago, Hmmm lies said:

You audacious little mastermind.

You just know I've got questions for you. But I'll save them for another time, when I don't feel like playing Clair Obscur: Expedition 33

(I already know the joke you're going to make so don't bother)

  

She uh, did already say that (although I think it was a status update, not a post on here)

 

can confirm I did say that.

thank you
 

[Honors Spectral Image She/her]

1 hour ago, Keke said:

Mmm got it 

AH confrontation.

okay okay i got it! Im pretty confident 

what do you mean by that for the shoulders?

and i already dont breakdown infront of people cause then they ask why and i dont wanna deal with that. So im rocking!

@Hmmm lies @Honors Ghost

idk if you saw this post so just in case. Here is my tips for yal

 

Thxxx lol I read that and realized I did most of those before I even knew I was trans

49 minutes ago, Hmmm lies said:

Hello, everyone.

I am posting right now to call out @certifiedcranedriver.

(To be clear, she knew I was going to make this post ahead of time)

You might know her as the pan trans girl who joined this place out of nowhere, and posts her occasionally.

That is correct.

However, today, I realized that she has pulled off a scheme so audacious, so insane, so unbelievable, and so damn impressive that I realize I have been bamboozled greater than I have in a long time.

(most of you will probably not care nearly as much as I did, but I'm sure you'll appreciate it)

You see, @certifiedcranedriver is a student at my school, one I talk to a lot, who is not out of the closet. I had not realized that these two people were the same until today.

Let me give you some backstory. She had at one point announced that she was beginning "The Secret Operation". Though I asked what this was, she didn't tell me, although she did later inform me that she wanted me to figure it out, and was dropping clues. As it turns out, this Secret Operation was in fact joining the 17th shard and the Certified Gay Disasters thread, as herself, and using it as the most crazy way to come out to someone I have ever seen in my life. (I had previously told her about the thread, and occasionally showed her stuff from there, as well as introducing her to the Cosmere.) She referenced things she said on the Shard in real life (such as the combat pan thing), though I was too dense to notice it initially, and pretty much acts the same way on the Shard as she does in real life, what with long-winded historical facts and her general vibe.

I once even showed her one of her own posts, thinking she would find it funny. She was no doubt giggling so hard inside.

I finally realized it when the following events occurred.

Then, in real life, she referred to someone as a "friend/client" (I don't quite remember the context). I froze, remembering where I saw that before. She acted innocent for a moment, before laughing extremely hard as I crashed out when I realized that this is what the Secret Operation was. 

 

I'm going to be so real though, I knew it. I didn't know she was specifically a pan trans girl, but I just figured that there was no way that someone like her was just cishet. And I suppose it would have gone against her nature to come out like a normal person...

 

Got anything to say for yourself?

Damn that’s an awesome way to come out

37 minutes ago, Keke said:

XD

this is the best thing ever

@certifiedcranedriver

DUDE THIS IS THE BEST THINGI. HAVE EVER SEEN. THANK YOU FOR THIS. PEAAAK

edit: OFFICALLY ON EOF THE TOP GAYS

OMG IM IP THERE TOO how do you see that?

[Aeoryi she/her]

37 minutes ago, Hmmm lies said:

She uh, did already say that (although I think it was a status update, not a post on here)

It's always good to check

[Honors Spectral Image She/her]

@Keke I might also be able to provide a list of things you could do to help present more masculine 

Spoiler

Let’s seee first the man spread is a real thing, do it it’s like yah it’s a real thing it’s weird I have never understood it but every guy ik does it

short hair helps obvi, idk if you grow much leg hair but if you do keep it, and as always wheat shorts in winter… boys are weird and ik next to nothing abt them is what writing this has taught me lolllll glll thoo

 

[Akimikoisthecutest]

So, I just came out to @Choirnull's partner... They support ofc, but now they're struggling with pronouns

[Honors Spectral Image She/her]

Yayayyyaya are they trying tho?

[Akimikoisthecutest]

Just now, Honors Ghost said:

Yayayyyaya are they trying tho?

Yeah, but I'm with a ton of people I'm not out to +@Choirnull

[Honors Spectral Image She/her]

Just now, Akimikoisthecutest said:

Yeah, but I'm with a ton of people I'm not out to +@Choirnull

Ye that’s how it was for Kansas and me for a while they’re were abt three dif pronouns for him to use in three dif places lol now there’s only two 

[Aeoryi she/her]

51 minutes ago, Akimikoisthecutest said:

So, I just came out to @Choirnull's partner... They support ofc, but now they're struggling with pronouns

That's epic I don't know anyone who uses my preferred pronouns so cherish that they are trying

[Kansas Stormcursed he/him]

3 hours ago, Hmmm lies said:

Hello, everyone.

I am posting right now to call out @certifiedcranedriver.

(To be clear, she knew I was going to make this post ahead of time)

You might know her as the pan trans girl who joined this place out of nowhere, and posts her occasionally.

That is correct.

However, today, I realized that she has pulled off a scheme so audacious, so insane, so unbelievable, and so damn impressive that I realize I have been bamboozled greater than I have in a long time.

(most of you will probably not care nearly as much as I did, but I'm sure you'll appreciate it)

You see, @certifiedcranedriver is a student at my school, one I talk to a lot, who is not out of the closet. I had not realized that these two people were the same until today.

Let me give you some backstory. She had at one point announced that she was beginning "The Secret Operation". Though I asked what this was, she didn't tell me, although she did later inform me that she wanted me to figure it out, and was dropping clues. As it turns out, this Secret Operation was in fact joining the 17th shard and the Certified Gay Disasters thread, as herself, and using it as the most crazy way to come out to someone I have ever seen in my life. (I had previously told her about the thread, and occasionally showed her stuff from there, as well as introducing her to the Cosmere.) She referenced things she said on the Shard in real life (such as the combat pan thing), though I was too dense to notice it initially, and pretty much acts the same way on the Shard as she does in real life, what with long-winded historical facts and her general vibe.

I once even showed her one of her own posts, thinking she would find it funny. She was no doubt giggling so hard inside.

I finally realized it when the following events occurred.

Then, in real life, she referred to someone as a "friend/client" (I don't quite remember the context). I froze, remembering where I saw that before. She acted innocent for a moment, before laughing extremely hard as I crashed out when I realized that this is what the Secret Operation was. 

 

I'm going to be so real though, I knew it. I didn't know she was specifically a pan trans girl, but I just figured that there was no way that someone like her was just cishet. And I suppose it would have gone against her nature to come out like a normal person...

 

Got anything to say for yourself?

Dang

@certifiedcranedriver well done. Take this combat pan. (Not for combat, unless you want to, but more as a measure of respect.)

3 hours ago, Keke said:

XD

this is the best thing ever

@certifiedcranedriver

DUDE THIS IS THE BEST THINGI. HAVE EVER SEEN. THANK YOU FOR THIS. PEAAAK

edit: OFFICALLY ON EOF THE TOP GAYS

HEY WAIT WHAT

I AM TOP GAY?