Elsecaller_17.5 he/him Posted July 13, 2020 Posted July 13, 2020 3 hours ago, Child of Hodor said: WOW! I reread WoK and WoR earlier this year when I was recovering from surgery, but I'm down for another one! Yah, I just rolled a Razor on Wednesday and yesterday I blew through the second half of WoR in a few hours. Amazing how much time you gain when you have to sit for 95% of your waking hours. 1
Winds Alight she/her Posted July 13, 2020 Posted July 13, 2020 I reread tWoK and WoR in fall of 2018 and read OB then, all three within one week each. I won't find the time to do a real reread but I'll probably reread parts of OB and once tRoW comes out I have a week of vacation so I get to read the entire book in one go without having to go to work x)
Mistbornwithakitty she/her Posted July 13, 2020 Author Posted July 13, 2020 2 hours ago, Elsecaller_17.5 said: Yah, I just rolled a Razor on Wednesday and yesterday I blew through the second half of WoR in a few hours. Amazing how much time you gain when you have to sit for 95% of your waking hours. Oooowww. Dude, that sucks. Fantastic reading time, I'm sure. But that stinks!
Mistbornwithakitty she/her Posted July 18, 2020 Author Posted July 18, 2020 I finished this week's reading!! Here are my thoughts. Feel free to put yours as well! --First off, let me say that this WoK starts out slow, but it was SO much more enjoyable this time round. I’ve never taken the time to really visualize a lot of stuff about the world of Stormlight Archive. It’s so much more colorful than I was imagining it before (if that makes any sense)! Also, knowing what’s actually happening is nice too. I don’t have to strain to imagine scenes. --Confession, I’ve never read Szeth’s viewpoint in WoK. DON’T KILL ME PLEASE. I had a bad habit of skipping around in books awhile ago, but no more! I’m looking forward to reading more from him. --Kaladin is best boi, as always (WARNING: stop here if you don’t want to read Kaladin gush). He is everything. His character type is just so attractive on so many levels. The brooding, the complexness, the honor, his want to help others and to take others under his wing! He’s basically a gentle soul that’s been beaten to a pulp one to many times. I love that he opens the series, as I’m hypothesizing he’s the main character (or the one the plot is going to end up centering around) in the entire series. Potentially a dumb take, but maybe I’m not expressing what I mean correctly…hmm. Don’t get me wrong, I LOVE Shallan, Dalinar, and the gang, but Kaladin get’s my squeals and cheers like no other! --I'm remembering Dalinar as he is in Oathbringer as I read WoK and it's weeiiirrdd. He grows so much! --In one of the interludes, there are three world hoppers. I know one is Galladon from Etlantris, do you know who the other two are? Are they unknowns? Anyway, that's my lil ramble. We're just getting started, but I'm already enjoying the re-read a lot!
Spren of Kindness she/her Posted July 18, 2020 Posted July 18, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Mistbornwithakitty said: I finished this week's reading!! Here are my thoughts. Feel free to put yours as well! --First off, let me say that this WoK starts out slow, but it was SO much more enjoyable this time round. I’ve never taken the time to really visualize a lot of stuff about the world of Stormlight Archive. It’s so much more colorful than I was imagining it before (if that makes any sense)! Also, knowing what’s actually happening is nice too. I don’t have to strain to imagine scenes. --Confession, I’ve never read Szeth’s viewpoint in WoK. DON’T KILL ME PLEASE. I had a bad habit of skipping around in books awhile ago, but no more! I’m looking forward to reading more from him. --Kaladin is best boi, as always (WARNING: stop here if you don’t want to read Kaladin gush). He is everything. His character type is just so attractive on so many levels. The brooding, the complexness, the honor, his want to help others and to take others under his wing! He’s basically a gentle soul that’s been beaten to a pulp one to many times. I love that he opens the series, as I’m hypothesizing he’s the main character (or the one the plot is going to end up centering around) in the entire series. Potentially a dumb take, but maybe I’m not expressing what I mean correctly…hmm. Don’t get me wrong, I LOVE Shallan, Dalinar, and the gang, but Kaladin get’s my squeals and cheers like no other! --I'm remembering Dalinar as he is in Oathbringer as I read WoK and it's weeiiirrdd. He grows so much! --In one of the interludes, there are three world hoppers. I know one is Galladon from Etlantris, do you know who the other two are? Are they unknowns? Anyway, that's my lil ramble. We're just getting started, but I'm already enjoying the re-read a lot! Bring on the Kaladin gushing! The other worldhoppers are Demoux and Baon. Edited July 18, 2020 by Spren of Kindness 1
DramaQueen she/he/neopronouns Posted July 18, 2020 Posted July 18, 2020 1 minute ago, Spren of Kindness said: Bring on the Kaladin gushing! The other worldhoppers are Galladon and Baon. She said Galladon. There's another... 1
Spren of Kindness she/her Posted July 18, 2020 Posted July 18, 2020 Just now, DramaQueen said: She said Galladon. There's another... Oh, right, I thought she spotted Demoux, I'll edit that right now. 1
Darkfinder she/her Posted July 18, 2020 Posted July 18, 2020 The other worldhopper is Demoux from Mistborn 1
Mistbornwithakitty she/her Posted July 18, 2020 Author Posted July 18, 2020 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Spren of Kindness said: Bring on the Kaladin gushing! The other worldhoppers are Galladon and Baon. 15 minutes ago, Darkfinder said: The other worldhopper is Demoux from Mistborn Demoux??? I think I remember something about that! Oh wow, I'm gonna have to read that again. I've only read a bit of White Sand, so I'm not quite familiar with Baon....guess I just have to add it to my never-ending reading list! Thanks for the quick info guys! Now I don't have to go to bed wondering. Edited July 18, 2020 by Mistbornwithakitty
Gears Posted July 19, 2020 Posted July 19, 2020 And so it begins. Shaylor mkabat nour. Mkai bade fortenthis. Prelude: The Heralds are a lot sadder than I remember. [Also, imagine if Taln survived, dragging his battered body back to the meeting point only to see the nine swords in a circle. They left him behind. They left him in Braize. They left him. If only...] Prologue: Shalash's statue is gone. Gavilar Kholin was left with a board that had writing on it. From the perspective of those who found him, Gavilar had learned to write in secret. 1: The mood soured very, very quickly. Poor Cenn. Now I want to see a Shardbearer if they're so beautiful that they resemble the Almighty himself. 2: Syl is very young. Even in murder, Kaladin fails. Tvlakv, you storming bastard, he could have lived. 3: Beneath the bells of Kharbranth... [The innocent, slowly dying, whispering words of foretelling. A brilliant, compassionate king, draining the blood from their veins. That is the price we pay for knowledge.] Oh, Shallan, you sweet summer child, you babe swaddled in the cashmere blanket of ignorance. Sheltered and kept from the world. You'll learn. Oh, the things you'll learn. 4: Kaladin, try to stop lying to yourself. You'll never succeed, of course, but it will make it so much easier for you in the long run. And do stop telling the truth when it doesn't help you. 5: Jasnah is a beautiful heretic. You underestimate the king. You know not what he has done, what he will do. Shallan, thou art a fool, a thief, and a liar. Your plan was poorly planned from the start. 6: Bitterness breeds bitterness. Kindness is fleeting [though the existence of a hugspren brings me hope]. Bridge Four, Bridge Death, Bridge of a wondrous future. And Sylphrena has a name! 7: Oh Kabsal, if I didn't know what you die for, I would almost like you. The Herdaz are always so intriguing. 8: Books. Lovely things, though they have a tendency to bite. Fear not their teeth, for if ye be wary, they cannot harm you. Do things not because you have to but because you want to. 9: If only you were so empty as to feel nothing. Everything you know and love is gone. 10: Oh Kal, you could have been a surgeon serving beneath the bells of Kharbranth. What would have become of you if you had gone there? If you had managed to save Rillir and Tien hadn't been drafted? 11: Hope, when it's over. Sylphrena, if you had been just one heartbeat later... Blackbane, a deadly poison, providing the faintest spark of hope. [I never realised how short Part 1 was. 11 chapters [plus a prologue and prelude]‽ 1-1: That culture is fascinating. They remind me of the Fae. All debts and favors and secrets. White hair, clever tongue, arrowlike face. We know this man. We know where he hides. The King's Wit. 1-2: I want an axehound. I don't care about metaphysical impossibilities, I want an axehound. 1-3: Poor Szeth. Following your oaths as though it was anything more than just a rock. 12: Wit! My favorite character [even when I was a fledgling cosmere fan and didn't know about the extended universe]! Oh yeah, the viewing plateau is in danger. Not that important. 13: Are the Shardblades wet with the moisture in the air or are they wet with the mist they form out of? Could a Shardbearer in the desert [if there are deserts on Roshar] summon their Shardblade repeatedly to get water? Can you take a Shardblade off-world? Why is a chasmfiend's wail multivoiced? The Blackthorn, revealed at long last. Why is chasmfiend blood purple? A very large emerald gemheart! Could someone use the colour from gemstones to Awaken things? 14: Syl is changing. This may or may not be good. Also, Kaladin and Bridge Four are bonding! Huzzah! 15: Pity the bridgemen. Scorn the man who scorns the Codes. Elhokar, you see faces in every shadow. You are wrong. They are not faces, but spiralling fractals. Wit! Wit is mentioned! All hail Wit! 3
Karger he/him Posted July 19, 2020 Posted July 19, 2020 On 7/6/2020 at 9:36 AM, Gears said: I would love to engage in this activity. Warning, I read incredibly quickly [for context, I read Oathbringer in 3 hours]. I read as quickly as anyone I know and my top speed is 200 pages per hour. How on earth is that possible? 1
Gears Posted July 19, 2020 Posted July 19, 2020 18 minutes ago, Karger said: I read as quickly as anyone I know and my top speed is 200 pages per hour. How on earth is that possible? I don't know about pages per hour, but I did a reading speed test just now [http://www.readingsoft.com/] and got 1000 wpm with a comprehension of 82% 2
Hen she/her Posted July 19, 2020 Posted July 19, 2020 I have a confession, I haven’t done this weeks reading yet please don’t kill me! I’m doing double next week. This week was just very chaotic. 1
Gears Posted July 19, 2020 Posted July 19, 2020 13 minutes ago, Hentient said: I have a confession, I haven’t done this weeks reading yet please don’t kill me! I’m doing double next week. This week was just very chaotic. *thunder rumbles ominously in the distance* 2
+Child of Hodor Posted July 20, 2020 Posted July 20, 2020 Here are my observations: Prelude: I love this opening. Interesting how the Heralds don't know whether the other Heralds died or not. In OB Stormfather says they share their pain through the bond and that helps them endure the torture, but Kalak wonders if he was the only one to survive and Jezrien was chosen wait for Kalak because they weren't sure if he survived. Maybe they were too busy fighting to pay close attention. How badly would their plan fail if Kalak had died? If Kalak is back on Braize he will quickly break. Imagine Taln and Kalak coming back 4 months later and the awkward conversation that ensues. One Herald had to miss the meeting because it would have tons of spoilers in it, but still . Why do they have to leave their blades? To blend in so people think they're gone, sure. Is it one of the "measures" the Heralds took to avoid giving "an opening to the enemy." that Nale mentions to Szeth in OB? Considering Nale takes his blade back despite having a perfectly good radiant blade, probably not. Although, Nale is a huge hypocrite and the blade is less powerful with Honor dead. Shallan Chapters: In chapter 8 Jasnah tells Shallan "We are each many different people ..." How right you are. Kaladin Chapters: I'm struck by how often Justice, Vengeance, Hatred and Honor are used. Kaladin is told his Hatred will keep him strong and he'll go for a good price. A slave wonders if they'll find Justice on the Shattered Plains. Honor Is Dead. Tvlakv discusses Kaladin's desire for vengeance against Amaram. Interludes: The 17th Shard sent three guys to track down Hoid on this supercontinent? Their tracking method is just asking around? Good luck! Dalinar Chapters: UNITY! It's fitting that when we first meet Adolin and Sadeas, Adolin is immediately wanting to kill him. "Today is an excellent day to kill a god." Feels like a line ripe for repeating at a critical moment in a later book. 1
Mistbornwithakitty she/her Posted July 20, 2020 Author Posted July 20, 2020 14 minutes ago, Child of Hodor said: Shallan Chapters: In chapter 8 Jasnah tells Shallan "We are each many different people ..." How right you are. I loved this quote too! It's just one of those times where you read a line and go "yes, I know exactly what you're talking about". No explanation needed. On 7/19/2020 at 3:02 AM, Gears said: 15: Pity the bridgemen. Scorn the man who scorns the Codes. Elhokar, you see faces in every shadow. You are wrong. They are not faces, but spiralling fractals. Wit! Wit is mentioned! All hail Wit! Lol! Wit is a breath of fresh air! I dearly adore the man. 1
book.spren she/her Posted July 20, 2020 Posted July 20, 2020 *totally crashing the re-read party* Can I just say that re-reading the chapters from Kaladin's time in Amaram's army is really heartbreaking? Knowing what's coming and knowing how much Kaladin struggles with those events just adds a layer of...grief to those chapters. Also, I forgot how much I really liked Yalb. 2
Mistbornwithakitty she/her Posted July 20, 2020 Author Posted July 20, 2020 34 minutes ago, book.spren said: *totally crashing the re-read party* Can I just say that re-reading the chapters from Kaladin's time in Amaram's army is really heartbreaking? Knowing what's coming and knowing how much Kaladin struggles with those events just adds a layer of...grief to those chapters. Also, I forgot how much I really liked Yalb. Crash away! Yeah, Kaladin's storyline is so....human. How he's literally given the worst hand life can give him. He's not a superhuman by any means. Talk about an underdog story on steroids. It's one of the reasons I love his chapters so much!
book.spren she/her Posted July 20, 2020 Posted July 20, 2020 6 minutes ago, Mistbornwithakitty said: Crash away! Yeah, Kaladin's storyline is so....human. How he's literally given the worst hand life can give him. He's not a superhuman by any means. Talk about an underdog story on steroids. It's one of the reasons I love his chapters so much! Yes! I really like the way that Kaladin isn't the superhero character who is all motivation and drive. I appreciate that we see his struggle with depression, with the idea of giving up, and we see his fight to not be "the wretch". 1
Eluvianii he/him Posted July 20, 2020 Posted July 20, 2020 This is so different, it's almost like reading the book for the first time. I think I have also gotten better at picturing stuff while reading, which helps a lot. The knowledge from future books makes a huge difference, Kaladin's chapters are easier to read knowing where he ends in OB. Also Moash. On my first read I barely learned any bridgemen names, I think only Teft and Rock actually, so when I read WoR and Moash was taking the spotlight and was shown as Kaladin's best friend I was like "Who is this guy? Was he even in book one?". Now I can pay attention to him. Another great change is that I now look forward to every single chapter. During my first read Shallan's chapters kept me alive, I struggled with Kaladin's, and was kinda disappointed when starting Dalinar's. I enjoyed them all, but you know what I mean, that feeling when you see the next chapter isn't about the person you want to read about. Well, no more. It doesn't matter if it's a Kaladin, Shallan, or Dalinar chapter, my reaction is like "Oh, this is gonna be good". The flashbacks are also a lot easier to read. The first time they felt really depressive, as I for some reason assumed Kal's parents were dead. Now, we know what happens to Tien but knowing there's a future for the people in Kaladin's childhood and that Kal gets to be a part of that future makes me see some of these flashbacks as a fond memory for him rather than a terrible dark past. The mentions of the Heralds and the Radiants also take a whole new meaning when you know who they were. On a closing, basically unrelated note, I was already a huge fan of Syl but I think somehow I like her even more now that I changed my mental voice for her, which is kinda weird. Anyway, I'm really enjoying this so far. I really need to preorder RoW soon because I intend to start as soon as this reread is finished. 2
book.spren she/her Posted July 21, 2020 Posted July 21, 2020 19 hours ago, Eluvianii said: Another great change is that I now look forward to every single chapter. During my first read Shallan's chapters kept me alive, I struggled with Kaladin's, and was kinda disappointed when starting Dalinar's. I enjoyed them all, but you know what I mean, that feeling when you see the next chapter isn't about the person you want to read about. Well, no more. It doesn't matter if it's a Kaladin, Shallan, or Dalinar chapter, my reaction is like "Oh, this is gonna be good". See, I'm kind of in an opposite position. I'm struggling to get through Shallan's chapters--I know that there's a lot of character growth going on for her but right now she just irritates me. I'm ready for her as she is in WoR. Dalinar's chapters are the ones that I'm getting involved in at the moment; I feel like I've missed a lot during my previous reads that I'm catching this time through, particularly during his visions and his interpretations of the Stormfather's messages. Kaladin's chapters have always been amazing. 2
Mistbornwithakitty she/her Posted July 21, 2020 Author Posted July 21, 2020 On 7/20/2020 at 9:11 PM, Eluvianii said: Another great change is that I now look forward to every single chapter. During my first read Shallan's chapters kept me alive, I struggled with Kaladin's, and was kinda disappointed when starting Dalinar's. I enjoyed them all, but you know what I mean, that feeling when you see the next chapter isn't about the person you want to read about. Well, no more. It doesn't matter if it's a Kaladin, Shallan, or Dalinar chapter, my reaction is like "Oh, this is gonna be good". The flashbacks are also a lot easier to read. The first time they felt really depressive, as I for some reason assumed Kal's parents were dead. Now, we know what happens to Tien but knowing there's a future for the people in Kaladin's childhood and that Kal gets to be a part of that future makes me see some of these flashbacks as a fond memory for him rather than a terrible dark past. 7 hours ago, book.spren said: See, I'm kind of in an opposite position. I'm struggling to get through Shallan's chapters--I know that there's a lot of character growth going on for her but right now she just irritates me. I'm ready for her as she is in WoR. Dalinar's chapters are the ones that I'm getting involved in at the moment; I feel like I've missed a lot during my previous reads that I'm catching this time through, particularly during his visions and his interpretations of the Stormfather's messages. Kaladin's chapters have always been amazing. I agree in part with both of you. I really struggled with Kaladin and Shallan first time around. I only stuck around for Dalinar/Adolin/royal intrigue stuff! I became fascinated with Kaladin soon enough, but only when he started coming out of his slump and interacting with the bridgemen. Just in these two weeks, I feel like I've cleaned my foggy glasses and am seeing the novel through new lenses. Although, yeah, I'm super pumped for WoR. My favorite!
Eluvianii he/him Posted July 22, 2020 Posted July 22, 2020 (edited) 13 hours ago, book.spren said: See, I'm kind of in an opposite position. I'm struggling to get through Shallan's chapters--I know that there's a lot of character growth going on for her but right now she just irritates me. I'm ready for her as she is in WoR. Dalinar's chapters are the ones that I'm getting involved in at the moment; I feel like I've missed a lot during my previous reads that I'm catching this time through, particularly during his visions and his interpretations of the Stormfather's messages. Kaladin's chapters have always been amazing. 5 hours ago, Mistbornwithakitty said: I agree in part with both of you. I really struggled with Kaladin and Shallan first time around. I only stuck around for Dalinar/Adolin/royal intrigue stuff! I became fascinated with Kaladin soon enough, but only when he started coming out of his slump and interacting with the bridgemen. Just in these two weeks, I feel like I've cleaned my foggy glasses and am seeing the novel through new lenses. Although, yeah, I'm super pumped for WoR. My favorite! I can agree about the new perspective. It's like the first time you barely have any idea what the book is about, constantly making up new theories only for them to be crushed five pages later. Now everything is so clear. I also love WoR but there's a scene there I'm dreading. Edited July 22, 2020 by Eluvianii 1
Mistbornwithakitty she/her Posted July 22, 2020 Author Posted July 22, 2020 4 hours ago, Eluvianii said: I can agree about the new perspective. It's like the first time you barely have any idea what the book is about, constantly making up new theories only for them to be crushed five pages later. Now everything is so clear. I also love WoR but there's a scene there I'm dreading. Out of curiosity....which scene?
Frustration Posted July 22, 2020 Posted July 22, 2020 On 7/20/2020 at 10:26 AM, book.spren said: Yes! I really like the way that Kaladin isn't the superhero character who is all motivation and drive. I appreciate that we see his struggle with depression, with the idea of giving up, and we see his fight to not be "the wretch". You know Kaladin might call it 'the wretch' but I've felt something similar and I have another name for it, apathy.
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