Karger he/him Posted April 27, 2020 Posted April 27, 2020 27 minute mark. What is the curse of kind? Do we know? Did Brandon let something slip?
NameIess Posted April 28, 2020 Posted April 28, 2020 16 minutes ago, Karger said: 27 minute mark. What is the curse of kind? Do we know? Did Brandon let something slip? I mean, I heard of it and assumed it was something kind of like bad luck, but I didn't know exactly what it was. That's cool.
Elsecaller_17.5 he/him Posted April 28, 2020 Posted April 28, 2020 (edited) Wow, this new! I never heard of it! Also Brando Sando is a Sun Bro, that's amazing. Edited April 28, 2020 by Elsecaller_17.5
Karger he/him Posted April 28, 2020 Author Posted April 28, 2020 It is also apparently mentioned in his interlude but we don't know anything about it. 1
Elsecaller_17.5 he/him Posted April 28, 2020 Posted April 28, 2020 Book 1 or 2 I want to track it down?
NameIess Posted April 28, 2020 Posted April 28, 2020 (edited) I believe it is in book one Edut- found it. It's in book one, the second set of interludes, page 438. Edited April 28, 2020 by Nameless
Elsecaller_17.5 he/him Posted April 28, 2020 Posted April 28, 2020 Here it is. I am drawn to the use of the word "kind" twice. It might be a racial curse. Secondly I do not think it refers to the backwards shadow as he talks about the CoK making the backward shadow a bigger problem. 1
Frustration Posted April 28, 2020 Posted April 28, 2020 Seems like there are at least two kinds of Fortune Future sight and luck and the curse of kind of bad luck, But that's my opinion
Quantus he/him Posted April 28, 2020 Posted April 28, 2020 8 hours ago, Frustration said: Seems like there are at least two kinds of Fortune Future sight and luck and the curse of kind of bad luck, But that's my opinion Im curious if it's a qualitative difference, or if he's just stuck at a reduced Fortune the way somebody would be while filling their chromium metalminds. Feruchemy theoretically has the same sort of increased/decreased slider-bar on their Fortune stat, perhaps the Curse of Kind just got the Saih Amians just stuck that way. Which would then beg the question of where their normal level of fortune Investiture is going? Is it the Curse of Kind because his "kind", his people, somehow used it all up once upon a time and are retroactively paying the bill? Are they trading Fortune for Immortality (ie Chromium style Investiture in, Atium style out)? 3
Karger he/him Posted April 28, 2020 Author Posted April 28, 2020 54 minutes ago, Sandra said: Could "Kind" be the name of someone? I suppose although I think it more likely that it is a species wide curse. 13 hours ago, Frustration said: Seems like there are at least two kinds of Fortune Future sight and luck and the curse of kind of bad luck, But that's my opinion 4 hours ago, Quantus said: Im curious if it's a qualitative difference, or if he's just stuck at a reduced Fortune the way somebody would be while filling their chromium metalminds. Feruchemy theoretically has the same sort of increased/decreased slider-bar on their Fortune stat, perhaps the Curse of Kind just got the Saih Amians just stuck that way. Which would then beg the question of where their normal level of fortune Investiture is going? Is it the Curse of Kind because his "kind", his people, somehow used it all up once upon a time and are retroactively paying the bill? Are they trading Fortune for Immortality (ie Chromium style Investiture in, Atium style out)? Fortune from what we can tell is not luck. From the hints that we have seen I think it is more like a current that pulls events along(a bit like destiny). IE a tide of fortune pulled the 10 through time to Dalinar. This is why Kaladin was seeing all those visions.
Quantus he/him Posted April 28, 2020 Posted April 28, 2020 1 minute ago, Karger said: I suppose although I think it more likely that it is a species wide curse. Fortune from what we can tell is not luck. From the hints that we have seen I think it is more like a current that pulls events along(a bit like destiny). IE a tide of fortune pulled the 10 through time to Dalinar. This is why Kaladin was seeing all those visions. I see them as basically the same things, in this context, just with different Vectors. Good Luck = moving towards that Destiny, towards a future that better aligns with a global/universal Platonic Ideal (a "Perfect" world) while Bad Luck/ Reduced Fortune is going to leave you more rudderless and prone to going off course. So Bad Luck wouldnt be an active force in it's own right, but reducing the normal level of Fortune aspect that a person has (using the Feruchemy model) would make your future "destiny" far easier to manifest in a detrimental way.
Karger he/him Posted April 28, 2020 Author Posted April 28, 2020 28 minutes ago, Quantus said: I see them as basically the same things, in this context, just with different Vectors. Good Luck = moving towards that Destiny, towards a future that better aligns with a global/universal Platonic Ideal (a "Perfect" world) while Bad Luck/ Reduced Fortune is going to leave you more rudderless and prone to going off course. We know however that shards may be able to manipulate fortune so moving to it or with it may just mean doing what say Odium wants you to be doing consciously or not. \
Quantus he/him Posted April 28, 2020 Posted April 28, 2020 9 minutes ago, Karger said: We know however that shards may be able to manipulate fortune so moving to it or with it may just mean doing what say Odium wants you to be doing consciously or not. \ Fair point. At that point though I dont know if the Shard is manipulating you or if they are manipulating the Spiritual Realm and its Platonic Ideal itself.
Karger he/him Posted April 28, 2020 Author Posted April 28, 2020 1 minute ago, Quantus said: Fair point. At that point though I dont know if the Shard is manipulating you or if they are manipulating the Spiritual Realm and its Platonic Ideal itself. I don't think that would count as manipulated you personally. It would probably be more general. I am influencing events that you are caught up in.
Ascended Posted April 29, 2020 Posted April 29, 2020 On 4/27/2020 at 6:53 PM, Karger said: 27 minute mark. What is the curse of kind? Do we know? Did Brandon let something slip? Where was this when I asked about this on March 9th lol
Subvisual Haze Posted April 29, 2020 Posted April 29, 2020 I wonder if the Siah Aimians got a species wide blessing/curse from the Nightwatcher. Their blessings are bodies that are extremely physically changeable at will (and extremely long lifespans as a result) but balanced with a curse of awful luck. 2
Karger he/him Posted April 29, 2020 Author Posted April 29, 2020 6 minutes ago, Subvisual Haze said: I wonder if the Siah Aimians got a species wide blessing/curse from the Nightwatcher. Their blessings are bodies that are extremely physically changeable at will (and extremely long lifespans as a result) but balanced with a curse of awful luck. I wonder if the Nightwatcher can do that. Good guess is so.
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