Mid-Range Game 40: A Defiant Rebellion

[Rathmaskal he/him]

46 minutes ago, Abstrusity said:

This is why I voted C1. I voted for Coda because I honestly wasn't suspicious enough of anyone to actively want them gone. But now I again face the same issue. No one seems suspicious, and neither the discussion nor the lynch itself has really given me much information. I feel almost paralyzed.

Right, but if you have a 51% chance someone is an elim based on activity, that's a better vote than a vote on someone who has been inactive the entire cycle.

39 minutes ago, Kynedath said:

I don't feel like there is enough reason to suspect those who voted on Coda, there is plenty of reason that they would have voted on them, and their voting didn't seem to be of hypothetical use to a potential elim.

I disagree on the use of the word 'plenty'...The only reason anyone voted on Coda was because they weren't willing to vote on anyone else, resulting in less information from the lynch.  That is definitely of hypothetical use to an elim.  That being said, I'm definitely not saying that all three of them are elims for voting (in fact, I think I've been rather clear on that fact)...  However, there's the 51% chance (probably more tbh, but I'm trying to make a point) for me.  (Also, I just tried to delete an extra 'period' like 5 times there before realizing it was just a spec of dust on my screen...don't judge me)

[Abstrusity]

2 minutes ago, Rathmaskal said:

Right, but if you have a 51% chance someone is an elim based on activity, that's a better vote than a vote on someone who has been inactive the entire cycle.

Fiiiiine. Consolidating my knowledge and feelings, I would say that Elkanah is my prime suspect. Behavior, all through the game, that seemed just a little bit off. 

[Rathmaskal he/him]

Current vote count

• Araris (1) - Fifth
• xino (0) - Araris
• Sart (1) - Kynedath
• Rath (1) - Elkanah
• Elkanah (2) - Kidpen, Abstrusity
• Kidpen (3) - TGK, Rath, Araris

[Elkanah he/him]

52 minutes ago, Zillah said:

Araris Valerian (1) Fifth Scholar

Xinoehp (0) Araris Valerian

Sart (1) Kynedath

Rathmaskal (1) Kidpen

Elkanah (1) Kidpen 

Kidpen (3) The God King, Rathmaskal, Araris Valerian

 

I'd also like to note that it was a six way tie between the people being voted for until Rath and Araris joined on the Kidpen Lynch. 

@Zillah I'll start by saying I really do appreciate the vote counts. I have had a hard time keeping up with who is even on the chopping block this game due to there being literally one vote on everyone. That said, it's a very easy way to seem active without contributing to the lynch discussion. That's a pretty good way to stay off people's radar except I guess mine. That coupled with something bugging me that you are only contributing when someone in the evil doc prompts you to is making me very wary of you. 

I'm willing to have my mind changed, but for now Zillah Rathmaskal.

@Rathmaskal, good to have you back on board, sorry it took me a while to retract that poke.

34 minutes ago, Abstrusity said:

Fiiiiine. Consolidating my knowledge and feelings, I would say that Elkanah is my prime suspect. Behavior, all through the game, that seemed just a little bit off. 

That is fair. If you caught some of my hidden messages you'll see I'm really just desperate to strike up conversation... which I guess I would do eliminator or otherwise. It sounds like you are voting for me for the same reason I'm voting for Zillah, so carry on I guess.  (shrug face). At least you are voting.  

[Abstrusity]

11 minutes ago, Elkanah said:

That is fair. If you caught some of my hidden messages you'll see I'm really just desperate to strike up conversation... which I guess I would do eliminator or otherwise. It sounds like you are voting for me for the same reason I'm voting for Zillah, so carry on I guess.  (shrug face). At least you are voting.  

I appreciate that. The vote's nothing personal. Just playing the game. 

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            

I'm quite enjoying this game so far. The incentive to roleplay is making the thread more fun to read, for certain. That said, there's not been much interaction between players within that roleplay scene. To combat that, I decree that a Krell attack will occur at the start of the next cycle, so to whoever still lives - it's time to fight.

 

Edited February 21, 2020 by Abstrusity
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[Elkanah he/him]

Rpdtdf walked the grounds after a day full of boring meetings. They had called him back out to Alta base to fly didn't they? Not that he could fly the Xzugz Izfkz in her current state anyway. Apparently they had more than just the krell to deal with now. Some group of people who thought they knew something were trying to dismantle the system. Maybe humanity had been on to something when they decided to stick to families of no more than fifty in their own caverns.

That brought back the thought of home. Of papa teaching the kids to cut and smooth the stone into beautiful gems. Granted the food here was better. Not just algae wraps and rat meat, but real food. Rpdtdf's stomach growled as if to emphasize the point. It was about time to head in for dinner anyway. He chuckled as he realized he'd have to walk past Cobb's office on his way back. 

"time to come up with something new." he laughed as he pulled out a pad of paper from his pack and began to scribble nonsense. Tormenting Cobb was a small bright spot in coming back to this overpopulated base. As he made his way into the crew canteen, he stopped a young guy with a cadet pin.\

"This is absolutely urgent! You must get this to Cobb immediately!"

Seeing a questioning look in the guy's eyes he added "NOW!"

Knowing better than to argue with a full pilot, the lad took off. That was more like it. 

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I'm sure the Xzugz Izfkz will be in condition to fly by next cycle. Clever was disappointed that he missed out on yesterday's battle.

[Zillah she/her]

The God King roleclaiming as a gunner really rubs the the wrong way. On one hand it could be a village trying to dissuade elims from targeting them. On the other, it could be an elim possibly trying to dissuade a Lynch. I’d lean towards the latter if they were under scrutiny, but as it is nobody was voting them or turning up suspicious evidence on them. 

Elkanah, once again you seem very sporadic and all over the place. Last game it was with the PM’s. This game it’s codes and white text. I don’t really get what you’re doing, which definitely creates some mistrust. 

Abstrusity, I’m not quite sure what it is, but something about your posts seems off to me. More to come if I can decipher exactly what it is that’s off putting. 

Sart, I don’t think you’ve posted yet this cycle. . .either way, the way you put out the chip passing idea then immediately backed off the second it was questioned feels odd. 

Kynedath, not much to say yet. Posts seem pretty genuine and logical. That being said, no hard evidence for this. Slight ish village read.

I know that’s not everyone, but I don’t have much of a read on the other players at the moment.  

[Sart he/him]

Araris Valerian (1): Fifth Scholar
Sart (1): Kynedath
Elkanah (2): Kidpen, Abstrusity
Kidpen (3): The God King, Rathmaskal, Araris Valerian
Zillah (1): Elkanah

Well, this is interesting. I was going to propose that this might be a vanilla only game, but I was roleblocked so that's impossible. It appears the lynch up to now has concentrated on those who voted to arrest Coda. Personally, I support that action. Game activity sags when people don't post, so from a meta perspective, I like having Contribution Crusade lynches. That does not bear on alignment, but it does speak to a level of activity that I support.

So, what now? The two candidates leading the vote are the ones who broke the tie. Honestly, I have no idea at this point who to vote for, but I always put a vote down because it's the right thing to do from a meta perspective. I'm just tired. I've never understood how people can discern who is lying, and who is telling the truth in these games. I've never had the right knack for it. I rely mechanic synergies to better suit my strengths, but that fails in situations like these. We have only one vote train that got anywhere last cycle, and I need to somehow find the culprit from that scant evidence. It's frustrating, and it feels like I'm frustrated more by the meta-construct of Sanderson Elimination than anything else.

So I'm just going to take a guess, and say Elkanah. I may be disengaging with Sanderson Elimination, but it's still the game I signed up to play. I don't like how they've generated several codes in thread that don't do anything. They're just fun for decoding, but they don't help the game itself. It feels like we're more interested in something other than the game we signed up to play.

This post has gotten really bitter. Sorry, it's been a long day. Let's see how this vote shakes things up.

[Araris Valerian he/him]

1 hour ago, Zillah said:

The God King roleclaiming as a gunner really rubs the the wrong way. On one hand it could be a village trying to dissuade elims from targeting them. On the other, it could be an elim possibly trying to dissuade a Lynch. I’d lean towards the latter if they were under scrutiny, but as it is nobody was voting them or turning up suspicious evidence on them. 

Elkanah, once again you seem very sporadic and all over the place. Last game it was with the PM’s. This game it’s codes and white text. I don’t really get what you’re doing, which definitely creates some mistrust. 

Abstrusity, I’m not quite sure what it is, but something about your posts seems off to me. More to come if I can decipher exactly what it is that’s off putting. 

Sart, I don’t think you’ve posted yet this cycle. . .either way, the way you put out the chip passing idea then immediately backed off the second it was questioned feels odd. 

Kynedath, not much to say yet. Posts seem pretty genuine and logical. That being said, no hard evidence for this. Slight ish village read.

I know that’s not everyone, but I don’t have much of a read on the other players at the moment.  

Zillah, you're making several analysis posts, but aren't backing them up with anything. Try killing people. It's what SE is all about. (and fun and friends and RP, but mostly killing )

[Fifth Scholar he/him]

Sorry for my lowered activity; one (hopefully) lengthier post a day is probably all I’ll be getting in for the foreseeable future. 

My Araris vote is clearly going nowhere, and he’s been giving reasonable explanations for the issues I’ve pressed him on, and has generally contributed a lot to discussion; while this doesn’t eliminate my prior suspicion, I’d rather keep a highly active Araris around, both because he’s normally killed early and because it allows him to build up AI, analyseable content. 

I’ll confess to not knowing the lynch dynamics here terribly well, but if Rath’s count is to be trusted, the Elkanah/Kidpen/Abstrusity trío popping up again in exactly the same format is creeping me out. As I’d like to investigate the possibility that they’re coordinating this, as well as the chance that Kidpen and Abstrusity are concentrating their votes as a deliberate tactic to avoid needing to cast around for new targets, Kidpen, in part to head off the strange Elkanah counterwagon of which I’m still not entirely sure of the origin. (I know I know, I’ve been voting for just Kidpen and Araris the whole game too, etc etc. I’ll look into more people when I have the time, which is not now )

3 hours ago, Abstrusity said:

This is why I voted C1. I voted for Coda because I honestly wasn't suspicious enough of anyone to actively want them gone. But now I again face the same issue. No one seems suspicious, and neither the discussion nor the lynch itself has really given me much information. I feel almost paralyzed.

This, for the record, is why we do have D1 lynches; it gets the initial confusion and floundering out of the way and lets us start focusing on interactions sooner. It’s also why I distrust both you and Kidpen: the Coda lynch provided almost no discussion or alignment indicative information, which has paralysed our analysis (though I’d argue there’s enough out there for those with time to do something with). 

3 hours ago, Kynedath said:

I don't feel like there is enough reason to suspect those who voted on Coda, there is plenty of reason that they would have voted on them, and their voting didn't seem to be of hypothetical use to a potential elim.

Can you elaborate on this, @Kynedath? You make two separate claims in support of your argument, but don’t explain them fully; why is their voting not of use to the Elims, and what are the reasons they might have voted on Coda?

edit: ninja’d by Araris. Yes, you should definitely join in the murder and become pyscopathic lynchers with the rest of us  

Edited February 21, 2020 by Fifth Scholar

[xinoehp512 he/him]

My internet's being spotty, so I probably won't be able to get on again this cycle...  I don't really have time to read through the thread either, which is frustrating. I really did want to get some analysis done- I don't usually, but I feel like I can do it this game for some reason, if only I had time to do it in. I started a player list analysis, but that's been rendered pretty much obsolete by this point.  

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The landing bay bubbled with noise, a hubbub quite similar to the one to be observed in the cafeteria. Taifend wasn't a part of it, of course- who would he talk to?- but that only gave him more time to listen. And what he heard... well, saying his bones were chilled was probably an exaggeration, but their temperature had been lowered by at least a couple of degrees.

The news had gotten out about the traitors. Taifend knew that it had probably been inevitable, but that didn't make it any better. Just as he'd feared, suspicion and distrust were beginning to spread virulently through the members of the DDF. Holding that poor kid in prison didn't help, no matter what the top brass might think about morale- anyone with half a brain would realize that he was no more a dissenter then he was a plate of algae. All it did was heighten fear in a place where fear had no right to be.

We shouldn't be in this situation, Taifend thought angrily. Can't they see? We're all one people! All fighting is going to do is get us killed!

He sighed, and leaned up against his ship. He'd be launching soon, out to fight the Krell. The real enemy. And no dissenter was going to stop him from doing that.

Banishing thoughts of a shot going wild and accidentally hitting another vessel, he climbed into the cockpit.

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I'm hoping Elandera takes pity on me for my horrible internet and counts my first post this cycle as a discussion post...

Sart voted Elkanah while I was writing this, putting things as a tie between him and Kidpen. Of the two, I feel like Kidpen is the better choice. The suspicion on Elkanah seems baseless to me. Kidpen voted on Elkanah because he didn't like his vote on Coda, Abstrusity and Sart just because they thought he felt 'off' somehow. I'll try and go into more detail when I have more time to write stuff down- the cycle's pretty close to ending and I don't think it's likely I'll be able to get back on before then.

[Kidpen he/him]

Welp this is difficult.

I'm going to sleep and am not going to be on, so I'm going to say that Im a first citizen with a radio and 40 chits. If/when I die that should give some info about role flips, if nothing else.

By my count I'm ahead by 2, so I'm going to die unless something changes in the next hour 30 minutes.

[Elkanah he/him]

1 hour ago, Sart said:

So I'm just going to take a guess, and say Elkanah. I may be disengaging with Sanderson Elimination, but it's still the game I signed up to play. I don't like how they've generated several codes in thread that don't do anything. They're just fun for decoding, but they don't help the game itself. It feels like we're more interested in something other than the game we signed up to play.

I understand the frustration with the codes. It is an extra time commitment that most players don't have available. That's why I have kept it to mostly RP and extraneous stuff. That way if you don't have the time, you don't have to worry about it. I have sent a couple of extra messages meant just for Xinoehp because he cracked the code and responded. I don't mind the vote on me as I would probably vote on me for all the stupid stuff I've pulled. 

2 hours ago, Zillah said:

The God King roleclaiming as a gunner really rubs the the wrong way. On one hand it could be a village trying to dissuade elims from targeting them. On the other, it could be an elim possibly trying to dissuade a Lynch. I’d lean towards the latter if they were under scrutiny, but as it is nobody was voting them or turning up suspicious evidence on them. 

Elkanah, once again you seem very sporadic and all over the place. Last game it was with the PM’s. This game it’s codes and white text. I don’t really get what you’re doing, which definitely creates some mistrust. 

Abstrusity, I’m not quite sure what it is, but something about your posts seems off to me. More to come if I can decipher exactly what it is that’s off putting. 

Sart, I don’t think you’ve posted yet this cycle. . .either way, the way you put out the chip passing idea then immediately backed off the second it was questioned feels odd. 

Kynedath, not much to say yet. Posts seem pretty genuine and logical. That being said, no hard evidence for this. Slight ish village read.

I know that’s not everyone, but I don’t have much of a read on the other players at the moment.  

This is exactly what I was looking for! Thank you Zillah. I don't think Kidpen is bad, but since I'm the only one who comes close and I am sure I am good and I don't want to miss out on the chits, I'll vote for him. Sorry

[The_God_King]

Sorry I've been gone. I've been at work for the last 6 hours. 

Things escalated very quickly... When I voted for Kidpen I was hoping to encourage discourse about who we trusted and didn't. My mild suspicions ended up being shared between a majority of the people playing. I stick to my vote because the only people I distrust are Elkanah and Kidpen. I haven't heard a defense from either that I am totally satisfied with yet.

 

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2 hours ago, Zillah said:

The God King roleclaiming as a gunner really rubs the the wrong way. On one hand it could be a village trying to dissuade elims from targeting them. On the other, it could be an elim possibly trying to dissuade a Lynch. I’d lean towards the latter if they were under scrutiny, but as it is nobody was voting them or turning up suspicious evidence on them. 

Sure the move is a calculated risk. My role is built to die and if I can take one elim with me then so be it! I guess my defiant side is leaking out! The biggest thing is that there was zero discussion last night and I wanted to stir the pot. Either by proving my innocence or dying as a martyr. That seemed to have failed at its purpose but I'm happy someone brought it up.

This Kidpen bandwagon feels even more off than Coda's. There are a lot more people jumping in and wanting those chits from getting the kill. It may seem ironic that the person who initiated the voting is questioning the votes motive but I still stand behind my vote. 

 

2 hours ago, Elkanah said:

Rpdtdf walked the grounds after a day full of boring meetings. They had called him back out to Alta base to fly didn't they? Not that he could fly the Xzugz Izfkz in her current state anyway. Apparently they had more than just the krell to deal with now. Some group of people who thought they knew something were trying to dismantle the system. Maybe humanity had been on to something when they decided to stick to families of no more than fifty in their own caverns.

That brought back the thought of home. Of papa teaching the kids to cut and smooth the stone into beautiful gems. Granted the food here was better. Not just algae wraps and rat meat, but real food. Rpdtdf's stomach growled as if to emphasize the point. It was about time to head in for dinner anyway. He chuckled as he realized he'd have to walk past Cobb's office on his way back. 

"time to come up with something new." he laughed as he pulled out a pad of paper from his pack and began to scribble nonsense. Tormenting Cobb was a small bright spot in coming back to this overpopulated base. As he made his way into the crew canteen, he stopped a young guy with a cadet pin.\

"This is absolutely urgent! You must get this to Cobb immediately!"

Seeing a questioning look in the guy's eyes he added "NOW!"

Knowing better than to argue with a full pilot, the lad took off. That was more like it. 

Cobb looked to the sky. His training group was flying towards the battle that was raging miles away from Alta. He went to walk to the command building when one of HIS cadets came running towards his. Cobb, instantly enraged, yelled, "What are you doing here!!"

The poor cadet stopped dead in his tracks, "message for you, sir"

"What are you doing running messages Cadet!" Cobb growled, "your flight needs you now. If you aren't up there then you are putting the lives of everyone in your flight in peril"

"A pilot handed this to me", the cadet was shaking as he handed the letter to Cobb.

Cobb gave the letter a once over, "If I ever find you running letters again I will personally escort you back to the caverns"

The cadet ran back to the base. Cobb looked at the letter again.

"Blasted [REDACTED FOR DDF SECURITY REASONS] and his cryptic codes!", the paper was in pieces faster than a Krell Intercepter. "If I ever find that scudding no good son of a..." Cobbs cursing continued for a solid 10 minutes. It would probably be better if [REDACTED FOR DDF SECURITY REASONS] was shot down by a Krell rather than face Cobbs wrath.

edit: The formating on the quotes is weird. Don't know why

Edited February 21, 2020 by The_God_King
krell spies

[Elkanah he/him]

Clever smiled as he could hear Cobb's cursing all the way in the canteen. This was an all right day after all.

 

[Elandera she/her]

This cycle is closed! Next one will be posted soon-ish.

[Elandera she/her]

(((RP to be written and added at some point, hopefully)))

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Kidpen was arrested! They were a First Citizen and a member of the Defiant Defense Force.
The_God_King was killed! They were a Bountiful Gunner and a member of the Defiant Defense Force.

Vote Count:

Kidpen (6) - Elkanah, Rathmaskal, Araris Valerian, The_God_King, Xinoehp512, Fifth Scholar
Elkanah (2) - Kidpen, Abstrusity, Sart

Player List

Spoiler

1. Kynedath
2. Zillah
3. Elkanah
4. Kidpen First Citizen
5. Rathmaskal
6. StrikerEZ
7. Araris Valerian
8. The_God_King Bountiful Gunner
9. Xinoehp512
10. Coda DDF
11. Fifth Scholar
12. Abstrusity
13. shanerockes DDF
14. Sart

Available at the Quartermaster

Spoiler

Destructor Pistol - 2
Hovercar - 1

The next turn ends at 10 p.m. PST on Saturday, February 22nd!

[Elkanah he/him]

There are two destructor pistols left. My guess is the evil team threw all of their chits together cycle one and the person who sent in the kill that cycle bought the gun in the second cycle. That leaves the other gun from the shop and the bountiful gunner pistol that was dropped by The God King. It is highly unlikely another elim can get a gun this cycle so two of us need to buy the guns out from under them. I expect them to use it immediately while they still have the full compliment of elims, so that moves us down from 6-3 (probs not 5-4)  to 3-3 if we mislynch. We are down to the wire and have to get an elim this cycle. Here are cursory thoughts about each player still alive.

Kynedath Has flown below the radar this game. I will note this is uncharacteristic of Kynedath. He is usually a lot more close to the center of attention throughout the game. Slight Elim read

Zillah's posts have felt off to me, but nothing she has said or done is actually indicative of being an eliminator. Very Slight Elim read

Elkanah is definitely playing this game for fun and not optimally. Now he's ready to buckle down and arrest some Disputers. Strong Village read

Rathmaskal Contributed a lot more cycle 2 than cycle 1. I don't have a clear picture of where he stands yet, but I'll do a reread to see what I can glean. Neutral read

StrikerEZ hasn't posted very much at all. He completely missed Cycle 2. @StrikerEZ, where did you go? I feel like there is something to be gleaned from the day one train and backing off of Striker, but I don't know what it would be. I am confident he isn't an heir, but I don't know that that actually helps us at this point. Very Slight Village read

Araris has been a part of activity discussion. Other than that, there hasn't been much to indicate his alignment except his mistrust of me which I think is NAI, but others disagree. Neutral read

Xinoehp Is having connectivity issues, but was quite active day 1. I want to believe he is good, but I have no such information. Neutral read

Fifth Scholar has some really good posts that fuel discussion for a while after he makes them. I need to go back over them with a finer toothed comb to try to weigh whether I think he's good or bad. Neutral read

Abstrusity also isn't clear from anything they've posted whether they are good or bad. I do get a good gut feeling from their posts, but it could be code bias. Very Slight Village read

Sart suggested the pass the chit plan, which I will reveal I have gone along with. I wanted people to be able to confirm my actions despite it not being able to prove whether I killed or not. It wasn't going to interfere with my ability to buy things anyway. In fact, I like the idea of sharing more and more as the game goes on. I am especially curious to see what the igneous engineer(s) have found, because time is growing short. Even if it's just the people to whom they sent the anonymous PM's (or if they pretend to have received an anonymous PM). Slight Village read

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I just realized there are ten of us still alive, so we possibly have 2 mislynches left. Even so, it would be best if we evened those odds this cycle because another thing I realized is the elims got at least 15 chits from killing TGK plus up to 50 more between him and Shanerockes. If they organized that cleverly, they might be able to purchase another gun this cycle. Either way they are the only ones who could have purchased the other gun that has disappeared from the market. Worst case scenario they have two kills this cycle and two next cycle making it 7-3; 4-3; 1-3 with mislynches.

I'll start with a vote on Kynedath. Can you give us a rundown of who you trust and who you don't?

In order from most trusted to least I am at:

Striker, Abstrusity, Sart, Fifth Scholar, Xino, Araris, Rathmaskal, Zillah, Kynedath

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Alarms sounded. Clever had received word that his ship was airworthy and he was anxious to get into the sky after months on the ground. But why did the Krell have to come so scudding early in the morning? Of course, morning was relative. There was always plenty of light from the skylights. Even so, he had to force himself out of bed as he steeled himself for the battle ahead. After quickly dressing, he ran for the hangar and climbed the high ladder into the Santa Maria. It felt so good to climb back into his own cockpit and he sat back just enjoying the familiar feel of his ship. The debris fall was supposed to be a long ways away so there was still time for collecting his wits and courage on the flight out.

He flipped the radio to the private channel to his wingmate [anyone want to join me in the battle?] "Are you still going for the record? I heard nightmare squadron set a new record the other day! 15 confirmed kills and 12 assists!"

@anyone

[Kynedath]

5 hours ago, Elkanah said:

Kynedath Has flown below the radar this game. I will note this is uncharacteristic of Kynedath. He is usually a lot more close to the center of attention throughout the game. Slight Elim read

 

I just realized there are ten of us still alive, so we possibly have 2 mislynches left. Even so, it would be best if we evened those odds this cycle because another thing I realized is the elims got at least 15 chits from killing TGK plus up to 50 more between him and Shanerockes. If they organized that cleverly, they might be able to purchase another gun this cycle. Either way they are the only ones who could have purchased the other gun that has disappeared from the market. Worst case scenario they have two kills this cycle and two next cycle making it 7-3; 4-3; 1-3 with mislynches.

I'll start with a vote on Kynedath. Can you give us a rundown of who you trust and who you don't?

In order from most trusted to least I am at:

Striker, Abstrusity, Sart, Fifth Scholar, Xino, Araris, Rathmaskal, Zillah, Kynedath

Yeah, I'm definitely not as active in this game as I was in the last one. Not sure there is any particular reason, just how the cookie crumbled this game I suppose. But ask and ye shall receive:

Elkanah: Chaotic as always, but you do add a to to game discussion. By voting on me I think you're village, because I really haven't been as active as normal. Your logic is solid, you have reasoning behind your decisions, village read.

Striker: Kind of disappeared by the end of last cycle, but overall slight village read from their earlier stuff I think.

Araris: I find them suspicious, They have been contributing and encouraging others to contribute, but it almost seems like they're being too good at not being suspicous. They haven't taken any risks really, it reads off to me. Plus they were third on the Kidpen lynch which could very well be trying to solidify the lynch away from them and their other conspirators up for lynch.

Fifth: I probably trust them the most, they bring new discussion to the table, have really solid logic, and I get a fairly strong village read.

Sart: Top of my suspicions, for reasons outlined last cycle, but the jist of it is that I get bad feelings about their chit passing plan, plus when someone said they thought it wouldnt be useful and pointed out some flaws, they backed off real fast. 

Those are the standouts for my trusts and suspicions, I'll vote on Sart again, although if there is another compelling vote then I can consider it, I don't want to have complete tunnel vision.

[Rathmaskal he/him]

6 hours ago, Elkanah said:

In order from most trusted to least I am at:

Striker, Abstrusity, Sart, Fifth Scholar, Xino, Araris, Rathmaskal, Zillah, Kynedath

So you don't trust yourself...interesting.  (Seriously, I was reading your list and your trusted list and saw you had *someone* as 'strong village read' and then I saw Striker as your 'most trusted' and I was confused...until I went back and saw that you were your 'strong village read')

So I'm waffling back and forth right now between voting on Abstrusity to follow up on my hunch of 'one of Kidpen and Abstrusity is likely evil' and voting on xino for similar reasons to what Araris outlined last cycle.

[Araris Valerian he/him]

2 hours ago, Kynedath said:

Araris: I find them suspicious, They have been contributing and encouraging others to contribute, but it almost seems like they're being too good at not being suspicous. They haven't taken any risks really, it reads off to me. Plus they were third on the Kidpen lynch which could very well be trying to solidify the lynch away from them and their other conspirators up for lynch.

This is what my signature refers to. I’m sort of known for that in these parts.

I’ll try and put up a list of thoughts on each player later.

[xinoehp512 he/him]

A player list, at last.  

Kynedath

Not terrifically active, but has been helpful and has contributed some to the discussion. While I don't necessarily agree with his vote on Sart, I see where he was coming from. Slight village read.
Zillah

Similar as to Kynedath, he hasn't been the most involved in discussion, but has contributed in small ways. Slight village read.
Elkanah

It seems that a lot of the suspicion that Elkanah has come under has been because his posts 'feel off'- something I would guess is caused by his usage of codes, which I think is more or less completely NAI. Overall, both of the lynch trains on him seem to me to have the feel of eliminators trying to jump on small details. His high activity is good- the only thing I really find suspicious is his very late-cycle votes. Moderate village read.
@Rathmaskal

Not a whole lot of posts. I note that despite Fifth's request for him to explain his vote on Striker C1, he never did so. Care to elaborate now, Rath? Overall, a neutral read.

In answer to your question, I did intend to vote... I fell asleep in the middle of catching up with the thread.
@StrikerEZ

Very inactive- failed to show up for C2 entirely. Similar to Rath, his vote C1 was vague- explanation wouldn't be unwanted. The Coda lynch might have been an attempt to save him, or it might not have been. Neutral read.

Araris Valerian

I didn't like the lynch train developing on Elkanah the first turn, and now that TGK has flipped village... I know that Araris tends to be an aggressive player, but his vote on Elkanah felt like an elim jumping on a small detail to try and get a lynch off. Nothing in C2 has really swayed my opinion away from that. Moderate elim read. My highest suspicion so far.

(As a small, probably inconsequential side note, Araris mentioned that he likes to encourage discussion even when he's an elim. Shanerockes was an inactive, so if Araris is an elim, it would make sense that he would take him out. Make of that what you will. :ph34r:)
Fifth Scholar

I agree with pretty much everything Fifth Scholar has said so far. He seems like he's seeing things similarly to my (obviously village :P) perspective. Moderate village read.
Abstrusity

I'm slightly suspicious of Abstrusity. I don't like either of the lynches that have sprung up on Elkanah, and the second one feels similar to the first. Slight elim read.
Sart

I'm not a big fan of Sart's idea, but I think's it's NAI. I'm not a huge fan of his vote on Elkanah, either, but it feels more genuine. Neutral read.

Questions for the GM: if a player is attacked but survived, will that appear in the writeup? Also, what was the item count last round? @Elandera

Edited February 22, 2020 by xinoehp512

[Elkanah he/him]

I am still suspicious of Kynedath but I need the pressure of a vote to get some more discussion going. Striker, would you mind weighing in with people you at least suspect more than other people?

9 hours ago, Kynedath said:

Elkanah: Chaotic as always

I take this as a compliment. Thank you!

6 hours ago, xinoehp512 said:

Elkanah

It seems that a lot of the suspicion that Elkanah has come under has been because his posts 'feel off'- something I would guess is caused by his usage of codes, which I think is more or less completely NAI. Overall, both of the lynch trains on him seem to me to have the feel of eliminators trying to jump on small details. His high activity is good- the only thing I really find suspicious is his very late-cycle votes. Moderate village read.

 True... I'll be honest, buying a radio drained my reserves. I was hoping to gain enough chits for a gun as well from being a part of both lynches and came up short by one because of passing a chit. I guess splitting Kidpen's chits 6 ways wasn't quite enough for me. But that's why I've jumped on both trains. 

Also I was hoping my odd playstyle would create more discussion, but at least some is good. 

 

[Elandera she/her]

23 hours ago, xinoehp512 said:

Questions for the GM: if a player is attacked but survived, will that appear in the writeup? Also, what was the item count last round?

Yes, any attacks will be announced. 

The item count last round was 2 guns, 1 Hovercar.

[Elkanah he/him]

"Don't feel like talking, eh?" Clever grinned into his radio. "We'll let our destructors do the talking then!" 

"Gravstopper flight, you are clear to ascend." a female voice said over the radio. "Penguin, you are on deck."

We were up next. Clever felt the normal adrenaline bubble up. It still blew his mind whenever he got to fly and what better way to prove dominance in the sky than by outflying a bunch of enemies in a debris field?

He watched as Gravstopper flight called out role. After each of the nine radio'd their flightleader, they took off at what looked like mach 3. Clearly they weren't in much of a hurry. 

After what seemed like a lot longer than it probably was, the air traffic control tower called out their flight and Clever shot up into the air. Six people had been assigned to Penguin flight. (not Clever's idea for the name, but what can you do when you're the last one to get to Alta?). He had flown with two of them before including his current filghtmate, but back then they had been Krellbuster Flight. That was disbanded after Cobb and Clever had both left. Only the other two stayed at alta. Everyone else quit or had already died. 

He heard his flight leader call for him and he smiled again as he called back "Penguin 5, call sign PeaceKeeper ready and eager!" His wing mate followed suit and at last they were off.

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So.... How's it going? 

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I'm going to do some analysis to see who could feasably get a gun, but I won't put it in the thread unless it becomes really relevant (or if I get bored enough).

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On 2/21/2020 at 8:00 AM, Kynedath said:

Yeah, I'm definitely not as active in this game as I was in the last one. Not sure there is any particular reason, just how the cookie crumbled this game I suppose. But ask and ye shall receive:

I reallized I forgot to comment on this. I appreciate receiving

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@Zillah, 

 

Even looking at just plain statistics, with twelve players and 3/4 eliminators, the odds of catching one are significantly higher. This isn’t to say we start randomly lynching left and right, it’s just a thought I found slightly interesting. Especially with the lack of activity and discussion this cycle so far, we have very little to go off of in terms of evidence for substantial lynches. 

It might be time to start lynching randomly. Would you care to vote for someone? I don't even care if it's me. 

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On 2/21/2020 at 1:50 AM, Elkanah said:

Elkanah is definitely playing this game for fun and not optimally. Now he's ready to buckle down and arrest some Disputers. Strong Village read

Elkanah makes a great point here. I think we should all trust Elkanah.

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On 2/21/2020 at 8:16 AM, Rathmaskal said:

So you don't trust yourself...interesting.

I would never trust myself! If you are ever wondering if something in a post I make is a lie it probably is.  I just think I'm a villager.

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@StrikerEZ, StrikerEZ, StrikerEZ, StrikerEZ, StrikerEZ @StrikerEZ

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On 2/21/2020 at 10:17 AM, Araris Valerian said:

I’ll try and put up a list of thoughts on each player later.

Please do! I think you are one of the lynch pins along with me that determines some alignments. 

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On 2/21/2020 at 10:43 AM, xinoehp512 said:

A player list, at last.  

YAY! 

On 2/21/2020 at 10:43 AM, xinoehp512 said:

Abstrusity

I'm slightly suspicious of Abstrusity. I don't like either of the lynches that have sprung up on Elkanah, and the second one feels similar to the first. Slight elim read

While I'm glad to be alive, I wish the lynch trains on me had lasted a little longer. I'd like to have seen who else would have jumped on.

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@Fifth Scholar is probably going to ninja me, because you are on right now, so I'll be late with my question of what you think will spur discussion, because wild claims and accusations aren't cutting it anymore for me.

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@Abstrusity, 

Do you wanna build a snowman? Come on, we've got some prey!

With krell ships falling from the sky (they all will die) all up there blown away!

We used to be code buddies, but now we're not. I wish I could decipher why!

Do you wanna build a snowman? In a blizzard of Krell a snowman. 

Okay, bye.

Do you wanna build a snowman? while flying ships through the debris?

I think some role playing is overdue, I've even started talking to the enemies!

It gets a little lonely when there's no PM's. What am I gonna doooo?

Do you wanna build a snowman? It doesn't have to be a snowman.

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@Sart,

If you thought this was a vanilla only game, how is it you were role blocked? Does the light line cancel new PM creation? That is the only blockable action a normal villager could start with. Also, if you are empowered, why were you going to suggest that we had a vanilla only game? More interestingly to me, what changed your mind? Because up to that point we only had a claim from TGK to be empowered and I thought he was lying. If you had kept being roleblocked a secret, you could still have suggested that we had only vanillagers, thus hiding your own empowerment.

I feel like sharing that you could be roleblocked is not a thing elim!Sart would have done, so it helps my trust of you, but I'm still not sure why you shared it at all. (But I am very happy you did, because now we can have a meaningful discourse in the thread  ).

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I'm so sorry if I missed anyone. I don't think I did, but I have been jumping all over between spreadsheets and previous threads, so it might have happened. Please come play some SE with me. This is a really cool game, and I'm very sorry if my irrational play style has made it harder for anyone to engage.

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more to come I'm sure as soon as it isn't double posting or even if it is