Karger he/him Posted October 17, 2019 Posted October 17, 2019 Given the Protector, The Announcer, The Ascendant Warrior, and The Counselor of the Gods. What is Ham's name? He was one of the preservers. He should have one.
Lunamor she/her Posted October 17, 2019 Posted October 17, 2019 (edited) Are we making up names? In that case The Philosopher. Edited October 17, 2019 by Lunamor 2
Rask Posted October 18, 2019 Posted October 18, 2019 I'm sure the folks in Era II call him something, can't quite remember what. I'm down for the Philosopher if by some chance we don't have a cononical honorific.
Karger he/him Posted October 18, 2019 Author Posted October 18, 2019 He totally should have one is all I am saying. I was wondering if anyone knew the canonical version.
+Invocation Posted October 18, 2019 Posted October 18, 2019 I don't think he has one, canonically, since they all appear to refer to him as 'Hammond,' but the real question is who put his image on the wiki to Brainseat Wojak?
+robardin he/him Posted October 18, 2019 Posted October 18, 2019 There's only one named/titled Originator who we don't know who it is, "Lady Truth". So unless Hammond took an interesting developmental turn in his life, that's not him. He does have a "Hammondar Bay" named after him in the post-Catacendre world, though. I can see other geographical references to people and places of the Final Empire in Era 2, from looking at the map inside Alloy of Law: Elendel and the Elendel Basin, named for Elend Venture Sea of Yomend for Yomen, "the Last Obligator" Doxonar, named for Dox (as well as the apocryphal "Docksithium") Vindiel-Cameux, named for Vin and ? -- surely not her abusive skaa crewleader, Camon? Alendel, named for Alendi Rashekin, named for Rashek, The Lord Ruler Feltrel. Named for Felt? The House Venture spy and eventual worldhopper serving Dalinar on Roshar in SA? New Seran and the Seran Range, named for the FE establishment where the Conventical of Seran was The Faleast Range, possibly echoing the name of Fellise, where Kelsier killed Lord Tresting to kick off TFE Unknown but intriguing name origins (could also just be Brandon's in-jokes to friends and associates): Sea of Lennes Tyrian Sea Town of Covingtar Town of Doriel Town of Dazarlumue Channerel Range
+Harrycrapper Posted October 18, 2019 Posted October 18, 2019 2 hours ago, robardin said: There's only one named/titled Originator who we don't know who it is, "Lady Truth". So unless Hammond took an interesting developmental turn in his life, that's not him. He does have a "Hammondar Bay" named after him in the post-Catacendre world, though. I can see other geographical references to people and places of the Final Empire in Era 2, from looking at the map inside Alloy of Law: Elendel and the Elendel Basin, named for Elend Venture Sea of Yomend for Yomen, "the Last Obligator" Doxonar, named for Dox (as well as the apocryphal "Docksithium") Vindiel-Cameux, named for Vin and ? -- surely not her abusive skaa crewleader, Camon? Alendel, named for Alendi Rashekin, named for Rashek, The Lord Ruler Feltrel. Named for Felt? The House Venture spy and eventual worldhopper serving Dalinar on Roshar in SA? New Seran and the Seran Range, named for the FE establishment where the Conventical of Seran was The Faleast Range, possibly echoing the name of Fellise, where Kelsier killed Lord Tresting to kick off TFE Unknown but intriguing name origins (could also just be Brandon's in-jokes to friends and associates): Sea of Lennes Tyrian Sea Town of Covingtar Town of Doriel Town of Dazarlumue Channerel Range Tyrian Sea is probably named after the ashmount of the same name(possibly different spelling, can't remember, listened to mistborn mostly on audiobook). 1
+robardin he/him Posted October 18, 2019 Posted October 18, 2019 1 hour ago, Harrycrapper said: Tyrian Sea is probably named after the ashmount of the same name(possibly different spelling, can't remember, listened to mistborn mostly on audiobook). Ah, good memory! That actually accounts for a number of the names on my list, as shown in an inset map from the original Mistborn trilogy: https://coppermind.net/wiki/Ashmounts Quote There were seven ashmounts in the Final Empire: Tyrian, in the Central Dominance, near Luthadel Zerinah, in the Southern Dominance, southwest of Luthadel Doriel, in the Southern Dominance, almost due south of Luthadel Faleast, in the Eastern Dominance, south-southeast of Luthadel Morag, in the Western Dominance, west-northwest of Luthadel Torinost, in the Western Dominance, north-northwest of Luthadel Kalling, in the Northern Dominance, northeast of Luthadel And if I looked closer at the Alloy of Law map, I could probably find more of the other names there.
RShara she/her Posted October 18, 2019 Posted October 18, 2019 Didn't most skaa not have a last name? One of the indicators that they were lower than the nobles that had surnames. So he was probably just Hammond.
Karger he/him Posted October 18, 2019 Author Posted October 18, 2019 Just now, RShara said: Didn't most skaa not have a last name? One of the indicators that they were lower than the nobles that had surnames. So he was probably just Hammond. I mean an honorific. Even the intern Preserver Spook gets two! I suppose this goes on questions to ask Brandon then
RShara she/her Posted October 18, 2019 Posted October 18, 2019 Just now, Karger said: I mean an honorific. Even the intern Preserver Spook gets two! I suppose this goes on questions to ask Brandon then Clearly my reading comprehension skills are at zero right now. Sorry I don't know why I answered in such a stupid way.
Karger he/him Posted October 18, 2019 Author Posted October 18, 2019 2 hours ago, RShara said: Clearly my reading comprehension skills are at zero right now. Sorry I don't know why I answered in such a stupid way. Its fine.
Kingsdaughter613 she/her Posted October 20, 2019 Posted October 20, 2019 Considering Ham’s personality, he may have refused to accept such titles. 2
dragonmagmaflame Posted November 12, 2019 Posted November 12, 2019 (edited) I agree he was a really chilled out humble dood Edited November 12, 2019 by dragonmagmaflame
Lunu’anaki he/him Posted November 12, 2019 Posted November 12, 2019 On 10/18/2019 at 10:22 AM, robardin said: Vindiel-Cameux, named for Vin and ? -- surely not her abusive skaa crewleader, Camon? I think it must be a place that was originally two towns, Vindiel and Cameux. No relation to eachother other than being close to one another. I think "Cameux" may have originally been named after... Stormlight spoilers: Spoiler Demoux, but... being the worldhopper that we now know him to be, he might have intentionally influenced the naming of the city in order to avoid giving his identity away to any potential visitors to Scadrial. 1
Aioria Posted November 7, 2020 Posted November 7, 2020 On 17/10/2019 at 8:27 PM, Karger said: Given the Protector, The Announcer, The Ascendant Warrior, and The Counselor of the Gods. What is Ham's name? He was one of the preservers. He should have one. In SoS the governor named a "hamondess Scion" so... Was "hamond the scion" like a title?
Branf she/her Posted November 8, 2020 Posted November 8, 2020 15 hours ago, Aioria said: In SoS the governor named a "hamondess Scion" so... Was "hamond the scion" like a title? Scion usually means descendent right, so I think that is just a fancy way of saying she is a descendant of Ham not referencing his title. 1
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