Which Form of Investiture Would you Choose?

[+Oltux72 he/him]

12 hours ago, Servillius said:

I would be a shard, for sure.

Isn't picking up a shard somewhere between intentionally inflichting brain damage on yourself and suicide? Ati effectively was not himself anymore.

[Embrisk he/him]

Ok, good point.

I choose Adonalsium, then. A nice combination of all 16 shards should balance out pretty evenly. 

Edited October 29, 2018 by Servillius

[Calderis he/him]

2 minutes ago, Servillius said:

Ok, good point.

I choose Adonalsium, then. A nice combination of all 16 shards should balance out pretty evenly. 

I'm not so sure about that. Harmony has two and is almost paralyzed. 16 seems like you'd be an ultimately powerful, yet impotent observer, because the intents don't balance/cancel out. 

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Brandon Sanderson (paraphrased)

Sazed's two Shards do not "cancel out", as Brandon said that it would like being pulled by two huge gravitational tides. You can get to a way that you aren't instantly ripped apart, but that doesn't mean you don't feel it. (When asked what effect the Shards would have on Sazed, Brandon said, "Read Alloy of Law to find out".)

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[Embrisk he/him]

I'm kind of confused, your comment, followed by Sanderson's comment seem to conflict.
He doesn't seem paralysed to me. Actually, he seemed to be doing a better job than most shards. Harmony does nicely compared to when the shards were separate. Yeah, it's like you have all of these different things pulling you in all different directions, but in the end, it tends to be kind of balanced, and you can go your own way.

[Calderis he/him]

1 minute ago, Servillius said:

I'm kind of confused, your comment, followed by Sanderson's comment seem to conflict.
He doesn't seem paralysed to me. Actually, he seemed to be doing a better job than most shards. Harmony does nicely compared to when the shards were separate. Yeah, it's like you have all of these different things pulling you in all different directions, but in the end, it tends to be kind of balanced, and you can go your own way.

No, he can't. He acts primarily through agents specifically because he can do so little himself. 

In his own words, from his letter in OB. 

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I am the least equipped, of all, to aid you in this endeavor. I am finding that the powers I hold are in such conflict that the most simple of actions can be difficult.

 

[Embrisk he/him]

Ah.

I still think I would go with being all 16 shards. I get to meddle a bit before the personas take over completely, right?

Edited October 29, 2018 by Servillius

[Gasper he/him]

I would either pick a detail knowledge of fabrial technology, Feruchemy, or Biochromatic breath. I would want Fabrial tech because it is very versatile, even more so than what we see currently. Breath because I could, with a few hacks, make basically living, self healing armor. As for Feruchemy, I could really use zinc, electrum, tin, and copper in my engineering classes. 

[teknopathetic he/him]

I would choose Awakening and Endowment, personally because I like the science and code-breaking aspect of it. I would rather be a wealthy awakener than a returned, though. 

Edited October 29, 2018 by teknopathetic

[+Ark1002]

I would be an expert hemalurgist. If that isn't allowed, feruchemy by far.

[Fezzik]

@Ark1002, if my dakhor-nest is allowed, your hemalurgy should be. Congratulations! You picked the magic system with the lower death toll.

[+Ark1002]

And the magic system with the biggest potential!

[Embrisk he/him]

I still think having all the shards would give me the biggest potential.

[Feruchemist he/him]

My username may make this somewhat obvious, but I would definitely choose Feruchemy.

[Eternal he/him]

I would love to be a Full lerasium Mistborn. Either that or a skybreaker

[Eternal he/him]

@Servillius if you have all 16 shards in one body then there intent will effectively neutralise each other hence there will be no persona to take over your consiousness so you will be you with power to do anything you want to.

[Quantus he/him]

58 minutes ago, Eternal said:

@Servillius if you have all 16 shards in one body then there intent will effectively neutralise each other hence there will be no persona to take over your consiousness so you will be you with power to do anything you want to.

That's the best case scenario, assuming you could fuse them all back together in a balanced way.  But otherwise, based on Harmony, they dont immediately balance each other, they still pull at the vessel in their distinct ways.  They do appear to be slowing merging the longer they are held together (Per WOB it would take effort to separate them now), but I dont think it's going to be that easy to hold Humpty Dumpty together in the meantime, if you tried to especially if you cram all 16 together at once. Though once you get a few melded I could see it becoming easier to add more to the mix as they'd represent a smaller and small percentage (and thus upset) of the accumulating whole.

[Eternal he/him]

14 minutes ago, Quantus said:

That's the best case scenario, assuming you could fuse them all back together in a balanced way.  But otherwise, based on Harmony, they dont immediately balance each other, they still pull at the vessel in their distinct ways.  They do appear to be slowing merging the longer they are held together (Per WOB it would take effort to separate them now), but I dont think it's going to be that easy to hold Humpty Dumpty together in the meantime, if you tried to especially if you cram all 16 together at once. Though once you get a few melded I could see it becoming easier to add more to the mix as they'd represent a smaller and small percentage (and thus upset) of the accumulating whole.

I agree with you but one have to be careful not to take up a shard like Odium at first as it will oppose you from taking any other.

Edited November 2, 2018 by Eternal

[Quantus he/him]

Just now, Eternal said:

I agree with you but one have to be careful not to take up a shard like Odium as it will oppose you from taking any other.

Not necessarily, that seems to be more Rayse interpretation.  He wants to be "top dog" but doesnt want to pollute his nature with more Shardic Intents.  I dont think that is a fundamental drive of the shard, just Rayse not wanting to be changed from what he currently is.  But a more open-minded Vessel of Odium could probably try to climb the pile using Sazed's method instead.  Im guessing it's why Odium is afraid of Harmony, he's the biggest challenger to that goal.

 

 

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WinespringBrother [PENDING REVIEW]

Given that Shards, and perhaps, Ascended beings, have intents similar to their names.

Brandon Sanderson [PENDING REVIEW]

More that they have names similar to their intents.

WinespringBrother [PENDING REVIEW]

So, would Unity be a natural enemy of Autonomy?

Brandon Sanderson [PENDING REVIEW]

Um... Possibly. You say "natural,"

WinespringBrother [PENDING REVIEW]

Well, would one eliminate the other one? But more towards Autonomy trying to break up...

Brandon Sanderson [PENDING REVIEW]

To break up Unity. It's so hard to say, because Autonomy is a bit of a strange duck. Like, what counts as being Autonomous? Is absorbing everything and becoming one again Autonomous or not? That's kind of your question that you get into. And the way Autonomy looks at it right now, is no. Autonomy wants to remain Autonomy. Autonomy does not want to be corrupted by anything else. And Autonomy would think the Shards are better on their own. But is this a natural effect, or part of the...? Does that make sense?

WinespringBrother [PENDING REVIEW]

Well, but it's also along the lines of, Odium wants to break up the other ones, so they don't...

Brandon Sanderson [PENDING REVIEW]

Odium just wants to be top dog. And your two ways to be top dog are to climb higher, or to lower everyone else. And he's like, we're gonna lower everyone else. Because I know, if I combine, it stops being me, is what his opinion is. I would no longer be the person I am. I would change into someone else. And then that person gets to rule, and I don't want that person to rule. I want to.

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[Eternal he/him]

4 minutes ago, Quantus said:

Not necessarily, that seems to be more Rayse interpretation.  He wants to be "top dog" but doesnt want to pollute his nature with more Shardic Intents.  I dont think that is a fundamental drive of the shard, just Rayse not wanting to be changed from what he currently is.  But a more open-minded Vessel of Odium could probably try to climb the pile using Sazed's method instead.  Im guessing it's why Odium is afraid of Harmony, he's the biggest challenger to that goal.

 

 

 

From what I know I think after holding a shard for enough time the vessel loses its free will as Hoid mention in his letter that ATI was a good enough guy but he went all ballastic after harbouring ruin for a while.

So I do not think Rayse himself has free will now as he is holding Odium since shattering. What he wants is all Odium not Rayse.

Just my thoughts.

[Embrisk he/him]

Yeah, at the start, Harmony messed around SO MUCH! (Giving Scadrial the rest they deserve,) before he stopped doing as much.

[Vargo Seldon he/him]

On 10/26/2018 at 6:40 AM, The Grumpy Elantrian said:

And I imagine the shardblade may occasionally come in handy. 

It'd also be nice to have a shard fork.  

Baring rosharan magic, allowmancy is one of the most powerful forms of magic there are.  Not only that, but it also requires finesse.  It would also be extremely useful in modern society.

[StormblessedSurvivor he/him]

If one were a Surgebinder here on Earth, where would they get Stormlight? Because depending on accessibility, it might be good or...not so good.

[Solant he/him]

I'd take Mistborn. Besides the reasons listed above, I think soothing/rioting would make life awfully interesting 

[kenod]

If allowed, I'd be a dragon, because of the immortality and shapeshifting, otherwise an elantrian because of the huge potential, and the fact that it'd be really useful on earth, as long as you have a how-to guide on aons.

[Quantus he/him]

Seriously though, I would go looking for the 11th Heightening...