Feruchemist

Fair enough. I actually understand your perspective, but I was interested to see what your exact reasoning was.

Yes, I do, in fact, know this. And, I have done much research on the Holocaust myself. My point was that it is best to not characterize groups by group identity when you are literally talking about killing them. Does saying that all Germans, civilians or otherwise, should have been slaughtered in WWII, or that you would have done so, not turn you into your worst enemy? Is it not dangerous in war to characterize civilians as nothing more than "the enemy"? After all, hate begets hate. Would you be equally as likely to suggest that it's alright to discriminate against others for the sins of their forbears or their representatives? I am not trying to be confrontational, or, not overly so, but I am trying to fathom how it is rational to hate an entire nation for the sins of some quarters of the populace, majority or not. I must ask for a clarification, however. Did you mean that all civilians involved in the war effort should be eliminated, or that you would have done so, or all civilians who were the enemy? That being said, I do understand Kelsier's motives, which is why he's such an interesting character to me, as all of Sanderson's characters are, really.

Western middle-class standards? Where in Hoid's underwear did you get that deduction from? In any case, I agree, but only if we take a moral stance relative to time and the era in which Kelsier lives. TL;DR: You're right. I wrote that particular post without care as to what the intended information to be conveyed would actually be.

Hrathen.

Not his hate for nobles, in particular, but his nigh-murderous hate for anyone who wrongs him. Kelsier himself is a noble of sorts, lest we forget, so his hatred is less justified.

In my opinion, that's a rather concerning character flaw. A willingness to kill civilians and those unrelated to any cause which has harmed you or your family, merely because they're playing a role in the war effort. It is always my prerogative that people be considered on an individual basis. Can we punch Nazis? Of course, Nazis and Nazi ideology should burn forever in the lowest pits of Hell. But, can we kill German civilians for no reason other than the ideology of the national leader? I would argue no, we cannot.

I would argue that Kelsier's actions are archetypal of a heroic Chaotic Evil personality. He is murderous, has irrational hate for many, only cares for his aims, and is willing to exploit others, plot their deaths, and glorify himself unnecessarily. Yet, we sympathize with him, because he truly is a hero. His methods are undeniably selfish and evil in most contexts, until, perhaps, his end. Even after his death he is less neutral than evil. However, the tone of Kelsier's character does shift, between CE, CN, and CG, but I am willing to argue that it is CE for the majority of time, despite his obvious heroism. Really, though, Kelsier is too complex a character to be reduced to an alignment.

Straff Venture?

The Human who happens to be not fully human? Guess: Iadon?

You're kidding right? Harmony? Not invested? Hmm... I suppose his investiture cancels itself out but...

Sarene?

Hrathen?

Dilaf?

Hnanan?

Well that's helpful!

@Ookla the boombox, this is pretty pitiful, but I think we need another clue.

Rlain?

Zuln?

Do you mean Venli?

Pattern?

Thank you @Ookla the ingenious. Does she mention this in OB (Which I haven't read yet?)

Um... I suppose. Erm... *coughs* Wyndle? (Do Spren have real genders?)

Adonalsium?

Heh. Isn't he male?

Adonalsium?