The Chat Thread

[Rushu42 she/her]

17 minutes ago, kenod said:

To some degree, though I suggest pinging them. If you need Aylitha (people remembering stuff from the old world), ping me. Otherwise, Voidus and maybe Zinc and Ene. Fatebreaker is the one who is actually in charge of the plot (or the one who originally designed it at least), but he hasn't been online since October.

I don't really know much about the actual plot though, so I won't be useful for that.

Alright, thank you. Aylitha might need to get involved once we start poking around the hospital, since we'd be looking for other people with memories coming back. And do you happen to know anything about this era's Worldspike?

[Ashbringer he/him]

Also, speaking of the hospital... I think I’ll put Byron there after a timeskipped (successful) Aylitha attack. I want him back in the plot, and it... adds a little mystery for certain individuals to solve 

[kenod]

29 minutes ago, Rushu42 said:

Alright, thank you. Aylitha might need to get involved once we start poking around the hospital, since we'd be looking for other people with memories coming back. And do you happen to know anything about this era's Worldspike?

Sorry, I don't. You should probably ping Voidus for that. My personal guess is that it would either be hidden somewhere else where people can't reach it, or is still there but covered in barriers, as the only left-over of the original DA.

[Rushu42 she/her]

On 1/22/2021 at 4:29 PM, Rushu42 said:

Alright, thank you. Aylitha might need to get involved once we start poking around the hospital, since we'd be looking for other people with memories coming back. And do you happen to know anything about this era's Worldspike?

@Voidus Would you be willing to tell me about the Worldspike? Thank you.

[Voidus]

On 26/01/2021 at 4:26 AM, Rushu42 said:

@Voidus Would you be willing to tell me about the Worldspike? Thank you.

We hadn't actually discussed what happened to it this era. I mean for the purposes of plot I'm happy to change it around if needed so that it's hidden in a different way, the Stranger is the one who came up with the original idea for it so he'd definitely be capable of shifting it with his Forgery.

[Ashbringer he/him]

So Alanis (Rushu42), Folorian (mathiau), and Poller (me) are heading to the Einladung Hospital in an attempt to find out more about the mental alterations to people. I'm planning for them to meet Byron, another of my characters, there, but he doesn't know anything about memory changing because I'm doing something without asking permission wildly affected by Byron's unnatural spiritweb.

So, does anyone want to have a character (NPC or actual character) there for realityshift-affected-memory? All I really know is that 18th Shard has Sanax there, and not much else. I'm also not really sure what the endgame/midgame/wherever-we-are-game is here.

[mathiau he/him]

On 01/02/2021 at 0:32 AM, Voidus said:

We hadn't actually discussed what happened to it this era. I mean for the purposes of plot I'm happy to change it around if needed so that it's hidden in a different way, the Stranger is the one who came up with the original idea for it so he'd definitely be capable of shifting it with his Forgery.

Actually it was the opposite, we needed the Worldspike to be easy enough to find that members of the Scholar Guild would know it exist and that it cause the Connection effect that makes everyone speak Alleycommon

5 hours ago, Ashbringer said:

So, does anyone want to have a character (NPC or actual character) there for realityshift-affected-memory? All I really know is that 18th Shard has Sanax there, and not much else. I'm also not really sure what the endgame/midgame/wherever-we-are-game is here.

I think fixing memory is @kenod's characters' job

At the Hospital there's also Zinc's Vivica, 18th's Emily Azizi and sometime Voidus's Professor coming to visit Vivica

[kenod]

10 hours ago, mathiau said:

I think fixing memory is @kenod's characters' job

Yeah, Aylitha is the one who generally erases memories. If you want her folks to come by you'll need to ping me though, I don't really read all that's happening currently.

Edited February 16, 2021 by kenod
Missing the don't

[mathiau he/him]

1 minute ago, kenod said:

I really read all that's happening currently.

I feel like a word is missing there

Edited February 16, 2021 by mathiau

[kenod]

Just now, mathiau said:

I feel like a word is missing there

Woops, yeah, missed the don't.

[18th Shard he/him]

On 2/14/2021 at 11:52 PM, Ashbringer said:

So Alanis (Rushu42), Folorian (mathiau), and Poller (me) are heading to the Einladung Hospital in an attempt to find out more about the mental alterations to people. I'm planning for them to meet Byron, another of my characters, there, but he doesn't know anything about memory changing because I'm doing something without asking permission wildly affected by Byron's unnatural spiritweb.

So, does anyone want to have a character (NPC or actual character) there for realityshift-affected-memory? All I really know is that 18th Shard has Sanax there, and not much else. I'm also not really sure what the endgame/midgame/wherever-we-are-game is here.

16 hours ago, mathiau said:

I think fixing memory is @kenod's characters' job

At the Hospital there's also Zinc's Vivica, 18th's Emily Azizi and sometime Voidus's Professor coming to visit Vivica

So as far as the two listed above: Sanax is aware (somewhat) of the memory-thing going on - his personal memory was unaffected but the divergence between his actual memories and the memories of the new world have essentially driven him insane. So he might be helpful tangentially but not intentionally. Aln would probably find him intriguing, partially because underneath the insanity is a genius level intellect. 

Emily on the other hand, is coherent, but unaware of memory changes at large. She has some faint phantom memories of a daughter from the other timeline that have been . She is essentially just a good person in a world much bigger than she is.

As far as plans - I also don't know the overall endgame, but character-wise - Emily is mostly open, while Sanax eventually will regain sanity and have an interesting relationship with Xanas, but that's farther off.

[Rushu42 she/her]

For anyone who'd planned to be involved in the hospital plotline, I think that's just beginning in the relevant thread.

(Tagging @18th Shard because you seemed interested - Emily's an employee, right? She could easily be involved pretty quickly.)

[18th Shard he/him]

Emily's an employee in the mental ward, yes. Sanax also is one of the patients she would know who seems more sane at some points that he should be. I've also been playing with Sanax dampening the Forgery slightly due to the fact his powers negate Investiture - hence why Emily had any minor memory return at one point. That might be an interesting mechanic, with your group's powers failing at the same time as memories strengthening.

Sanax was also a member of the Dark Alley, but he was gone since before most anyone Aln might have met existed, so she probably wouldn't recognize him. However, he has an understanding of pretty much any investiture/magic system hidden inside his psyche at the moment, so Aln might find it interesting to talk to him, though he might be tougher to talk with coherently than even Folorian.

[Rushu42 she/her]

3 hours ago, 18th Shard said:

Sanax was also a member of the Dark Alley, but he was gone since before most anyone Aln might have met existed, so she probably wouldn't recognize him. However, he has an understanding of pretty much any investiture/magic system hidden inside his psyche at the moment, so Aln might find it interesting to talk to him, though he might be tougher to talk with coherently than even Folorian.

Sounds like a very fun conversation! Aln actually avoided the Dark Alley, generally so she wouldn't know much about that anyway. (A handy coverup for my own ignorance of the specifics...). I'll let you decide when you want to put them in - presumably once we're inside.

[mathiau he/him]

1 minute ago, Rushu42 said:

Sounds like a very fun conversation! Aln actually avoided the Dark Alley, generally so she wouldn't know much about that anyway. (A handy coverup for my own ignorance of the specifics...). I'll let you decide when you want to put them in - presumably once we're inside.

Wouldn't Sanax's passive investiture nullification suppress Aln's boon?

[Ashbringer he/him]

I wonder if Sanax would (indirectly) just knock Poller out. That would be interesting.

Byron... more complicated 

[Rushu42 she/her]

1 hour ago, mathiau said:

Wouldn't Sanax's passive investiture nullification suppress Aln's boon?

Probably, yeah. Looks like we've got a lot of people who heavily rely on Investiture, here ... this should be fun.

[Ashbringer he/him]

Lets see:

• Poller: Fine until narcolepsy makes him go to sleep
• Aln: Deaf and unused to being so
• Folorian: ... Complete sensory deprivation?
• Zaria: Fine but powerless, no Stormlight to counter seizures
• Byron: Either undergoing constant muscle spasms or dying from cadmium poisoning
• Sanax: "This is fine."

Yeah not the best... @18th Shard, what would Sanax do to an Allomancer? Would it remove the actual metal like a Leecher would or just suppress their ability to burn the metal? Because if Byron can't burn the cadmium in his stomach he poisons himself...

[Rushu42 she/her]

1 minute ago, Ashbringer said:

... Complete sensory deprivation?

Actually, I wonder if the opposite would happen. Unlike Aln, his inhibition was given to him by the Nightwatcher - perhaps being in an anti-Investiture field would dampen the bane.

[mathiau he/him]

2 hours ago, Rushu42 said:

Actually, I wonder if the opposite would happen. Unlike Aln, his inhibition was given to him by the Nightwatcher - perhaps being in an anti-Investiture field would dampen the bane.

There's actually more to Folorian's bane than just a sensory inhibition, in fact his senses are working perfectly fine they're just taken care by the subconscious part of his brain. What the Nightwatcher did was a magical brain-surgery (that affected the Soul and Spirit so it cannot be healed by becoming a Radiant) that wouldn't be removed by an anti-magic field just as if someone that had their limbs regrown by Progression entered the field their limbs wouldn't disappear

2 hours ago, Ashbringer said:

• Zaria: Fine but powerless, no Stormlight to counter seizures

Aren't he seizures magical too and therefore wouldn't happen?

 

On another subject, I've seen Sanax used to be an Elscaller, does he still follow his Oaths?

[AonEne he/him]

18th, is there some way for Deteca to get in here? It's been a hot minute and I'm hazy on what we were doing together. Does Xanas know about Sanax yet? 

[18th Shard he/him]

18 hours ago, Rushu42 said:

Sounds like a very fun conversation! Aln actually avoided the Dark Alley, generally so she wouldn't know much about that anyway. (A handy coverup for my own ignorance of the specifics...). I'll let you decide when you want to put them in - presumably once we're inside.

Sounds good. What's the end result we are going for with these interactions?

18 hours ago, mathiau said:

Wouldn't Sanax's passive investiture nullification suppress Aln's boon?

18 hours ago, Ashbringer said:

I wonder if Sanax would (indirectly) just knock Poller out. That would be interesting.

Byron... more complicated 

17 hours ago, Rushu42 said:

Probably, yeah. Looks like we've got a lot of people who heavily rely on Investiture, here ... this should be fun.

16 hours ago, Ashbringer said:

Lets see:

• Poller: Fine until narcolepsy makes him go to sleep
• Aln: Deaf and unused to being so
• Folorian: ... Complete sensory deprivation?
• Zaria: Fine but powerless, no Stormlight to counter seizures
• Byron: Either undergoing constant muscle spasms or dying from cadmium poisoning
• Sanax: "This is fine."

Yeah not the best... @18th Shard, what would Sanax do to an Allomancer? Would it remove the actual metal like a Leecher would or just suppress their ability to burn the metal? Because if Byron can't burn the cadmium in his stomach he poisons himself...

16 hours ago, Rushu42 said:

Actually, I wonder if the opposite would happen. Unlike Aln, his inhibition was given to him by the Nightwatcher - perhaps being in an anti-Investiture field would dampen the bane.

13 hours ago, mathiau said:

There's actually more to Folorian's bane than just a sensory inhibition, in fact his senses are working perfectly fine they're just taken care by the subconscious part of his brain. What the Nightwatcher did was a magical brain-surgery (that affected the Soul and Spirit so it cannot be healed by becoming a Radiant) that wouldn't be removed by an anti-magic field just as if someone that had their limbs regrown by Progression entered the field their limbs wouldn't disappear

Aren't he seizures magical too and therefore wouldn't happen?

 

On another subject, I've seen Sanax used to be an Elscaller, does he still follow his Oaths?

So Sanax's powers are ... complicated. He is technically Voidmaking. This means he is an Investiture sink. Actively using investiture on him is going to open oneself up to having all of their Stormlight/actively burning metals vanish. Using it near him is probably fine unless he removes the aluminum lined gloves he is using. His abilities don't affect the Spiritweb until much more exposure occurs, so boons/banes might kind of flicker but would probably still work (if I understand how these work - I need to read through a little more of both of your posts to make sure). If Sanax removes the gloves and starts actively Voidmaking, his eyes would go black, and the Void he summons would start destroying most investiture far more potently - Breaths, invested metals, etc, - but Spiritwebs would probably remain intact.

In terms of non-burning metals, they are totally unaffected. Burning metals would probably dampen some of the effects around him, but wouldn't Leech the metal unless he touched them gloveless.

As far as the WorldForgery goes, Sanax isn't destroying anything - he merely has a slight dampening of its affects around him that allows an individual's other memories to be slightly more accessible, but anyone who isn't already aware of it would be unaffected without long-term exposure.

ROW Spoilers

Spoiler

Assume Sanax works like anti-investiture to every type of Investiture simultaneously - even anti-Investiture. This means his Voidmaking, when unleashed, would destroy a spren, though that should not happen in the interaction.

Sanax does follow his Oaths - kind of. He is still the same person who swore them and they are an integral part of who he is. However, Sanax was essentially unbonded to his spren Tsarik, resulting in Tsarik's deadeye status, when he returned from the Void. Sanax's soul is no longer capable of being bonded to the spren, as that is a bit of investiture. Sanax still has (had) Tsarik's blade - it is currently in storage at the hospital since no one trusts a mental patient with it - but he has to wear gloves to touch it if he doesn't want to destroy it.

Xanas - the alternate timeline Sanax who still is in the Dark Alley - is actively an Elsecaller bonded to a different Tsarik.

Sanax's Oaths: 

Spoiler

o   1st – Life before death, strength before weakness, journey before destination

o   2nd – I will be guided by logic, not by emotion.

o   3rd – I will consider all viewpoints, even those I do not agree with.

o   4th – I will seek out the correct questions before seeking their answers.

4 minutes ago, AonEne said:

18th, is there some way for Deteca to get in here? It's been a hot minute and I'm hazy on what we were doing together. Does Xanas know about Sanax yet? 

Xanas has not progressed at all for a while - everyone (me included) in that plan went on somewhat of a hiatus, so that plotline is still hanging.

[AonEne he/him]

14 minutes ago, 18th Shard said:

Xanas has not progressed at all for a while - everyone (me included) in that plan went on somewhat of a hiatus, so that plotline is still hanging.

Would he have suspected Mike would be at the hospital? 

[Rushu42 she/her]

21 minutes ago, 18th Shard said:

Sounds good. What's the end result we are going for with these interactions?

Aln's goal is to figure out a way to reverse the Forgery, but for myself, I'm flexible. 

[18th Shard he/him]

40 minutes ago, AonEne said:

Would he have suspected Mike would be at the hospital? 

Not really. I haven't had any posts on his end since Cam visited.

34 minutes ago, Rushu42 said:

Aln's goal is to figure out a way to reverse the Forgery, but for myself, I'm flexible. 

Sanax could be helpful-ish. Everything will come heavily filtered through his insanity, but somewhere in there he understands what's happening. He doesn't know the Stranger did it, but Sanax was there when the Worldspike was placed, so he would understand its workings.