The Chat Thread

[Turtle they/them]

@A Windrunner maybe try to join a guild. 

join the scholars guild. its great.

 

[Rushu42 she/her]

7 hours ago, turtle said:

join the scholars guild. its great.

Agreed - but it's also rather busy at the moment. When Sorana gets back from her vacation, you could try her boardinghouse, or you could just post in the General Alleycity thread and see if anyone wants a conversation.

@A Windrunner

[Wind he/him]

2 hours ago, Rushu42 said:

Agreed - but it's also rather busy at the moment. When Sorana gets back from her vacation, you could try her boardinghouse, or you could just post in the General Alleycity thread and see if anyone wants a conversation.

@A Windrunner

I already joined in a tavern of some sort. I can’t be in multiple places at once, right?

[Rushu42 she/her]

Just now, A Windrunner said:

I already joined in a tavern of some sort. I can’t be in multiple places at once, right?

No, you're right - one place at a time. I simply didn't see that you were in a tavern thread.

[Ashbringer he/him]

So, since Byron is currently running around in circles, I figure I should probably just spill the ideas I have for him interacting with the reality shift.

Spoiler

So, Byron isn't native to the Alleyverse, and therefore almost all of his history would be unaffected by the reality shift here. However, his mother was from the Alleyverse, and while she is long dead thanks to Byron's time skipping, the shift still affected her and somewhat affected Byron as well, changing his connection to various worlds and powers. And for Byron, this rewriting occurred while he was deep in the Alleys, which resulted in it changing him... improperly (?). 

In the current, altered timeline, his mother was a Willshaper. That's why the lightspren has been following him around - in one reality, it was bonded to his mother, and he has sufficient Connection to it and Roshar to bond to it.

However, in the original timeline, she was something else entirely.

She was a cytonic.

That's why Byron has such good reactions, since his mind is cytonically enhanced to react at insane speeds. (If he progresses here, he'd develop his Sense and possibly figure out FTL teleportation - from what I can tell, mindblades would be too overpowered in conjunction with his bubble).

However, Byron's currently split between these two powers. He should only have one, as only one version of his mother should have existed, but that's... not what happened. So right now he can't really use either of the powers, but gets shades from both. Eventually he'll have to hone one and not the other, but for now he's swapping rapidly between periods of attracting the lightspren but being unable to form a bond and periods of having cytonically-enhanced senses but being unable to truly process them, with some periods of both (like right now) wreaking havoc on his mental state and his control over his cadmium bubble.

The main problem is... I don't know if that works. At all. Fatebreaker hasn't been online in a month, so I don't know if I can ask him if that's a plausible result of the conditions Byron was subjected to. And I don't want to just do it and be the one that doesn't fit with what's happening to everything else. 

So... can that work? Would it invoke a reaction from Aylitha? Thoughts? Questions? Cookies?

[AonEne he/him]

*hands over a cookie*

Personally, I think that would work fine - we really don't have set-in-stone rules for how this works, it's been left open so people can pretty much do as they like in regards to their characters, so long as it's plausible in terms of history.

[Archer he/him]

BE CAREFUL 100% OF THE COOKIES I'VE EVER GOTTEN FROM A MODERATOR IN THIS SUBFORUM HAVE BEEN SPIIIIKED

You know how Athena acted in Riordan's Mark of Athena when she had to express herself as Minerva to the Romans and Athena to the Greeks at the same time? I'm getting those kind of vibes from your description. It's a kind of false consciousness situation which implies a lot about the specific workings of the time warp, so I'd suggest being vague where possible and not trying to explain it in any expository way. That way it can be easily retconned if need be. But yeah, might as well move on if Fate isn't around, seems like a good arc build. 

[AonEne he/him]

5 minutes ago, Archer said:

BE CAREFUL 100% OF THE COOKIES I'VE EVER GOTTEN FROM A MODERATOR IN THIS SUBFORUM HAVE BEEN SPIIIIKED

I would never!

[kenod]

9 hours ago, Ashbringer said:

So, since Byron is currently running around in circles, I figure I should probably just spill the ideas I have for him interacting with the reality shift.

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So, Byron isn't native to the Alleyverse, and therefore almost all of his history would be unaffected by the reality shift here. However, his mother was from the Alleyverse, and while she is long dead thanks to Byron's time skipping, the shift still affected her and somewhat affected Byron as well, changing his connection to various worlds and powers. And for Byron, this rewriting occurred while he was deep in the Alleys, which resulted in it changing him... improperly (?). 

In the current, altered timeline, his mother was a Willshaper. That's why the lightspren has been following him around - in one reality, it was bonded to his mother, and he has sufficient Connection to it and Roshar to bond to it.

However, in the original timeline, she was something else entirely.

She was a cytonic.

That's why Byron has such good reactions, since his mind is cytonically enhanced to react at insane speeds. (If he progresses here, he'd develop his Sense and possibly figure out FTL teleportation - from what I can tell, mindblades would be too overpowered in conjunction with his bubble).

However, Byron's currently split between these two powers. He should only have one, as only one version of his mother should have existed, but that's... not what happened. So right now he can't really use either of the powers, but gets shades from both. Eventually he'll have to hone one and not the other, but for now he's swapping rapidly between periods of attracting the lightspren but being unable to form a bond and periods of having cytonically-enhanced senses but being unable to truly process them, with some periods of both (like right now) wreaking havoc on his mental state and his control over his cadmium bubble.

The main problem is... I don't know if that works. At all. Fatebreaker hasn't been online in a month, so I don't know if I can ask him if that's a plausible result of the conditions Byron was subjected to. And I don't want to just do it and be the one that doesn't fit with what's happening to everything else. 

So... can that work? Would it invoke a reaction from Aylitha? Thoughts? Questions? Cookies?

I think it can work? And yeah, that would definitely provoke a reaction.

[Ashbringer he/him]

5 hours ago, kenod said:

I think it can work? And yeah, that would definitely provoke a reaction.

Cool!

But the follow-up question... what would happen if they win? If it’s not a memory that’s the problem, but a powerset. I guess they would try and stabilize him back to the Willshaper side, then wipe any memory of the stress caused by both powers?

[kenod]

Just now, Ashbringer said:

Cool!

But the follow-up question... what would happen if they win? If it’s not a memory that’s the problem, but a powerset. I guess they would try and stabilize him back to the Willshaper side, then wipe any memory of the stress caused by both powers?

That would be a rather problematic case for them. I suspect they'll probably try to instal mental blocks to prevent usage of those abilities, though that wouldn't be a perfect fix.

[Ashbringer he/him]

Hmm. Right now Byron just has significantly quicker reflexes some of the time, the lightspren around the othe times (and still very fast natural reflexes), so he’s just barely drawing on the powers. That should work to restabilize him, at least for a while, but depending on how much Byron connects the spren to things he may realize something’s missing. So long as he stabilizes towards the Willshaper side (the false-reality side).

Either way, that could lead to him being attacked soon. I’ve been toying with the mental pull trying to take him back to the Scholar’s Guild, but it might make more sense to just have him attacked on the streets.

 

[AonEne he/him]

Please check out the Announcements thread for context on this poll.

Old poll: 

[Goob he/him]

Looking at the poll why can't we do both the guild plot and the alternate universe plot? They could work quite well together.

[Ashbringer he/him]

6 minutes ago, AmazingGoob said:

Looking at the poll why can't we do both the guild plot and the alternate universe plot? They could work quite well together.

I think that’s the plan either way; it’s just a question of which is in the forefront.

Also, 3 people have voted so far, so take current results with a grain of salt 

[AonEne he/him]

Yeah, the alternate universe will always be part of it, it's just a matter of what else is happening.

[Rushu42 she/her]

Both of these options seem interesting to me, and I'd be generally open to whatever happens. I voted for Fatebreaker's plot mainly for selfish reasons - the first being that a guild-centered plot would reasonably involve the scholar's guild, and Aln's committed to a bunch of stuff this era. The second reason is much more vague: I had an idea for a plot to run that I'd be interested in, and I was looking forward to proposing it as an option next era - and the guild plan might take longer than just running with the main plot. Both of those reasons are mainly just related to me, though, so don't weight my vote too heavily.

[+Sorana she/her]

9 hours ago, Rushu42 said:

I had an idea for a plot to run that I'd be interested in, and I was looking forward to proposing it as an option next era - and the guild plan might take longer than just running with the main plot.

Can you elaborate a little on that? I personally would be completely fine to maybe to that one and the FB plot afterwards. I don't know about the others around here, but I'd be interested to hear what you have in mind.

[Rushu42 she/her]

5 hours ago, Sorana said:

Can you elaborate a little on that? I personally would be completely fine to maybe to that one and the FB plot afterwards. I don't know about the others around here, but I'd be interested to hear what you have in mind.

I don't think it would mesh super well with the current plot/era. The idea was to run a plot mainly for non-combative characters, such as the members of the SG. It would be a mystery, probably following the trail of either Aln (?) or some other character in an investigation. The information received would depend on the points put into scholarship and intelligence. 

[Wind he/him]

I have a person just sitting in the bleeding spike tavern, does anyone want to meet them?

[Turtle they/them]

@A Windrunner once the fight scene I'm in cools down I want to.

[Ashbringer he/him]

Speaking of the fight, when that settles down, could we have some of Alythia's creatures attack Byron? I can write a post about him in a general Alleycity thread (or perhaps back in A Masked Dance). I have a few ideas that could bounce off of that. 

@kenod

[+Sorana she/her]

@AmazingGoob okay, that might be a weird question, but I kind of lost Mike. Can you recall where I posted last for him?

[Lunamor she/her]

33 minutes ago, Sorana said:

@AmazingGoob okay, that might be a weird question, but I kind of lost Mike. Can you recall where I posted last for him?

I searched by date and this seems to be the most recent post for him:

 

[kenod]

5 hours ago, Ashbringer said:

Speaking of the fight, when that settles down, could we have some of Alythia's creatures attack Byron? I can write a post about him in a general Alleycity thread (or perhaps back in A Masked Dance). I have a few ideas that could bounce off of that. 

@kenod

Sure, can you ping me the next post he remembers stuff, and the one where you want me to attack?