Alleyverse Characters

[MacThorstenson he/him]

I can confirm that that is a wicked powerful character. 

I can still think of ways that solace could easily kill it, and Mac too, but it would be mountains ahead of the other characters in power level. 

I do agree with archer that the motivation may be misplaced. 

Mraize did design solace to be able to be beaten, he’s designed to be a villain that the hero’s have to team up with to beat. 

Hellbent has a whole lot of backstory showing how he got to this point. 

Mac is really powerful because of the amount of augmentations that he can give himself through hemalurgy, and his association with the DA, both of which have been well established. 

In addition, none of these people abuse their characters power. Mac doesn’t go on killing sprees and control other people’s characters, even though he probably could. Hellbent the same, when he RP’s fights and interactions he doesn’t instantly wreck everyone, even though he could, and mraize is supposed to be strong enough to have a team take him down. 

Edited November 16, 2018 by MacThorstenson

[Karnatheon he/him]

From a cosmere stand point this character could potentially hold it's own against a shard. Been a while since I've read WoT but that's what I seem to recall. Obviously difficult to compare cross magic system, but that power with that prime invincibility is, as said, OP.

[Darth Woodrack he/him]

Make a better weakness. Like, some really bad phobia, or something. All mine are either the fact that they have honor, or they don't have emotions. Look at how powerful my characters are. I really wanted Deras.

I will get my Halo guy in here in a bit.

[Karnatheon he/him]

Ok maybe my previous post was a bit of an overstatement. We don't really know the power of a shard in comparison to someone else, to my knowledge. This character could easily handle the Lord Ruler might be more accurate.

[Darth Woodrack he/him]

About an eighth of the characters in the Alleyverse could take the lord ruler, soooooooooooooooooooo.....

[Voidus]

Taim was close to as powerful as it is possible for a male channeler to be. Right next to the Dragon Reborn in strength, someone being naturally stronger than that to the degree of one of the worlds most powerful sa'angreal does not seem possible in Randland.

[Vargo Seldon he/him]

1 hour ago, MacThorstenson said:

I can confirm that that is a wicked powerful character. 

I can still think of ways that solace could easily kill it, and Mac too, but it would be mountains ahead of the other characters in power level. 

I do agree with archer that the motivation may be misplaced. 

Mraize did design solace to be able to be beaten, he’s designed to be a villain that the hero’s have to team up with to beat. 

Hellbent has a whole lot of backstory showing how he got to this point. 

Mac is really powerful because of the amount of augmentations that he can give himself through hemalurgy, and his association with the DA, both of which have been well established. 

In addition, none of these people abuse their characters power. Mac doesn’t go on killing sprees and control other people’s characters, even though he probably could. Hellbent the same, when he RP’s fights and interactions he doesn’t instantly wreck everyone, even though he could, and mraize is supposed to be strong enough to have a team take him down. 

His backstory is kinda hazy, but I was going to put something about him using atium spikes to take channeling ability from other asha'man, but I feel like that would've warped is mind

40 minutes ago, Darth Woodrack said:

Make a better weakness. Like, some really bad phobia, or something. All mine are either the fact that they have honor, or they don't have emotions. Look at how powerful my characters are. I really wanted Deras.

I will get my Halo guy in here in a bit.

Also, his strong sense of justice prevents him from going on random killing sprees.

28 minutes ago, Voidus said:

Taim was close to as powerful as it is possible for a male channeler to be. Right next to the Dragon Reborn in strength, someone being naturally stronger than that to the degree of one of the worlds most powerful sa'angreal does not seem possible in Randland.

True, I think I will scale down his power.  Maybe to right in between Rand and Taim.  Or maybe less than Taim.  

Maybe as an answer to all of your arguments, I'll lengthen the backstory to build his power, and scale it back a bit.  Also, his weakness is cheese, which is pretty common anywhere...  I appreciate all of the points you all are bringing up, and I'll take most of the advice to mind.

Edit: Edited.  Tell me what you think.

Edited November 16, 2018 by Kaladin78
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[Darth Woodrack he/him]

2 hours ago, Kaladin78 said:

Rand

Really? spoilers much? I'm on page 463 of book 1. Thanks for that.

[old man moomba he/him]

well, I'm on boook five. (of a reread)

[+Ark1002]

I can't say, because I'm reading four, but from what I can tell a powerful channeler might be a bit much.

[Archer he/him]

Perhaps a compromise? Either the Epic power or the channeling. That would be less OP. 

[+Ark1002]

I haven't read it, because I don't want the books spoiled, but yeah, both would probably be too much.

Also, @Archer, could you add Araha to my characters? Don't take it off Cyanic though, and make sure to give credit. But I want people to be able to know I have Araha now.

[Vargo Seldon he/him]

13 hours ago, Darth Woodrack said:

Really? spoilers much? I'm on page 463 of book 1. Thanks for that.

Sorry bout that...  I myself am only on book six.

11 hours ago, Archer said:

Perhaps a compromise? Either the Epic power or the channeling. That would be less OP. 

True, but.. but.. what about my cool backstory?  Maybe he can lose some of his power by ripping out some spikes.  So, weak epic powers and no prime invincibility?

Edit:  Edited.  

Edited November 17, 2018 by Kaladin78
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[Archer he/him]

Having a plethora of hemalurgic spikes do open you up to allomantic hijacking. The back story is cool (what parts I understood ) and I like his first skill, but couldn't you just interpret the justice weakness as a mandate to destroy evil characters, Nightblood style?

[Life&Death]

I am considering bring Soul back into the Alleyverse, but not how he was in Era 1, but how he is supposed to be in my book I’m writing. This isn’t official yet since I’m still deciding but would anyone be opposed to this? This way I could do more character development for Mr Amber instead of using him as my main character. (Ski is officially not being used anymore.)

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It would make the battle against Solace and Mac more exciting since Soul is incredibly powerful.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[+Ark1002]

*realized he has four characters, two dead, and Hellbent*

*realized he is going to make at least two more*

[Vargo Seldon he/him]

13 hours ago, Archer said:

Having a plethora of hemalurgic spikes do open you up to allomantic hijacking. The back story is cool (what parts I understood ) and I like his first skill, but couldn't you just interpret the justice weakness as a mandate to destroy evil characters, Nightblood style?

So... excepted?  Yes, but the justice system is based on deeds that can be proven, not intentions or deeds that can't.

[MacThorstenson he/him]

Life, I’m not planning on having Mac fight solace, that was more of a joke.

The thing is, I don’t think I can accurately RP a fight with Mac, because there is no way that he couldn’t go for an instant win right away. His spacial manipulation isn’t really limited by a whole lot of things. In fact, it has only 2 limitations. The first  wouldn’t really affect any fight he had in the alleyverse. The second wouldn’t affect any realistic fight he could have in the alleyverse. 

Also, I’m not good at RP fighting. 

[Vargo Seldon he/him]

9 hours ago, MacThorstenson said:

Life, I’m not planning on having Mac fight solace, that was more of a joke.

The thing is, I don’t think I can accurately RP a fight with Mac, because there is no way that he couldn’t go for an instant win right away. His spacial manipulation isn’t really limited by a whole lot of things. In fact, it has only 2 limitations. The first  wouldn’t really affect any fight he had in the alleyverse. The second wouldn’t affect any realistic fight he could have in the alleyverse. 

Also, I’m not good at RP fighting. 

But can't you take control of solace because of his spike?

[kenod]

A single spike would be difficult, even Harmony can't take control of someone with less than four spikes (Kandra are an exception, they are a lot more vulnerable). And even then, a normal allomancer would need either duralumin or be a nircrosil ferring to take control of a four spiker (remember the trouble Vin had with getting the Koloss).

[Vargo Seldon he/him]

Huh.  Mac is a pretty powerful rioter, but I suppose even he wouldn't be able to control Solace.

[MacThorstenson he/him]

33 minutes ago, Kaladin78 said:

Huh.  Mac is a pretty powerful rioter, but I suppose even he wouldn't be able to control Solace.

Hes not actually an exceptional rioter.

But even then, Complete control over someone is tricky. Humans are interestingly strong willed. Like, even Marsh, in era 1 resisted ruins control with a crap ton of spikes. And ruin is a full fledged shard.

[Archer he/him]

18 hours ago, Kaladin78 said:

So... excepted?  Yes, but the justice system is based on deeds that can be proven, not intentions or deeds that can't.

I still have serious reservations. That strength of channeling apparently introduces some possibilities involving energy and explosions that are in a different league than the other characters in this era. And I'm still not sold on the intent. If the purpose is just to make a powerful character so you can go after someone else's character, that's an unfortunate goal. There are better ways to compete, in my opinion. 

6 hours ago, MacThorstenson said:

But even then, Complete control over someone is tricky. Humans are interestingly strong willed. Like, even Marsh, in era 1 resisted ruins control with a crap ton of spikes. And ruin is a full fledged shard.

There was a two vs two duel a while back (it's probably on the second page by now) that illustrated this pretty well. An extremely powerful rioter character tried to hack a guy with an eye spike. It might be worth a read through.

[+Ark1002]

Ahem. Atticus was fairly easily able to break out, and Max had... special powers. Shown by Oasis.

[Life&Death]

@Voidus

What are Voidus Prime’s abilities. I want to  know if it is actually possible for Soul to defeat him. 

It usually gets easier for Soul to kill things the more powerful they are. Up to a point anyway.