Argent he/him Posted March 17, 2014 Posted March 17, 2014 Hmm. It really looks like those glyphs in the outside border denote distance somehow. We can't see anything interesting on the y-axis, but the x, both top and bottom, follows a distinct pattern (see annotated map): a "double glyph" (blue) in the middle, followed by three "regular glyphs," (not colored) followed by a single "sharp glyph," (green) followed by an unknown number of "regular glyphs." For the most part we only see what I imagine is the lower half of each glyph, so it might actually be impossible to figure out what they say, but maybe the ones right in the corners will reveal enough for us to figure out (some part of) their meaning.
PunSpren he/him Posted March 17, 2014 Posted March 17, 2014 (edited) Ok I tried to pull the glyph from the Roshar Circle and I got these two images, I also tried to recreate it with some higher fidelity on my sketch pad, I believe if you look at the negative space there is a message/ word in the glyphs, and there may be another in the positive space. Ill try to shoot this over to the translating thread. Who knows if it will come to anything ? Argent, That may be the case, but I believe the ones in the corner are the one that go down the y Axis. So I hope your right. As for the radial glyph behind Roshar Let me know if anyone can make out anything else from what pulled from it. Edit: Having trouble uploading picture will fix soon Edited March 17, 2014 by PunSpren
PunSpren he/him Posted March 17, 2014 Posted March 17, 2014 Well I wasn't able to upload the photo, but this made me realize when looking at something else that the radial glyph behind Roshar is also the same as the compass rose glyphs. just patterned around a circle in a set of 3 instead of 8 any significance there ?
AerionBFII he/him Posted March 17, 2014 Posted March 17, 2014 http://coppermind.net/wiki/File:Shadesmar_(TWoK).jpg Shadesmar has mountain in the sea? 1
Sirscott13 he/him Posted March 17, 2014 Posted March 17, 2014 I always thought it looked like the collision of two storm cells.... everstorm from the west and a high storm from the east... but maybe there is more to it than that. I played around with the three main maps (silver kingdoms, shardsmar, and the main WoR map) and something I found is that the shape is the exact same. It struck me odd that it stayed the same in all three maps. I was expecting the new map to be different from the silver kingdoms, any plate tectonics, volcanic creation, or island erosion anywhere? It was just to clean to me. Then there was shards mar which looked interesting because the seas are where the land should be (sea of lost lights, sea of souls, sea of regret). Also, there are several cities that the compass rose rays intersect... could be of note. The last thing that I noticed is that in the shadsmar map, the expanses and nexuses that correspond with roshar oceans, had some interesting names. combined with the seas, that makes a total of nine different named areas of shardsmar. could these be the homes of nine different races or kingdoms of spren. If that is the case, why only nine?
WeiryWriter he/him Posted March 17, 2014 Posted March 17, 2014 I played around with the three main maps (silver kingdoms, shardsmar, and the main WoR map) and something I found is that the shape is the exact same. It struck me odd that it stayed the same in all three maps. I was expecting the new map to be different from the silver kingdoms, any plate tectonics, volcanic creation, or island erosion anywhere? It was just to clean to me. Then there was shardsmar which looked interesting because the seas are where the land should be (sea of lost lights, sea of souls, sea of regret). Brandon has said that plate tectonics are not a factor on the Rosharan supercontinent.
Sirscott13 he/him Posted March 17, 2014 Posted March 17, 2014 If plate tectonics are not a factor, then how does the landmass form?
PunSpren he/him Posted March 17, 2014 Posted March 17, 2014 In the Shadesmar map there is a marking that looks like a cymatic pattern to the right of where Karbranth would be in the frostlands.
Sirscott13 he/him Posted March 17, 2014 Posted March 17, 2014 In the Shadesmar map there is a marking that looks like a cymatic pattern to the right of where Karbranth would be in the frostlands. nice catch. also, is that jasnah on the shardsmar map?
RShara she/her Posted March 17, 2014 Author Posted March 17, 2014 (edited) I sharpened, upped the contrast, and enlarged the pattern/stamp/cymatic? on the Shadesmar map. I have no idea what it is Also...is there script very very faintly on the physical realm landmasses? It's most "clear" on the plains near the Valley on the map. Edited March 17, 2014 by RShara
Karou she/her Posted March 17, 2014 Posted March 17, 2014 It looks kind of like the symbol at the center of the compass rose on the greyscale map.
PunSpren he/him Posted March 17, 2014 Posted March 17, 2014 Look at that guys we found something new and interesting! Now lets quickly figure it out so that our wait for book three is that much more difficult ! 4
Pinpoint he/him Posted March 17, 2014 Posted March 17, 2014 Remember, the shape is important. Sanderson was very specific with what shape he wanted it to be. First of all did anyone notice that the Sea of lost souls in the Shadesmar is Alethkar inn Roshar? Isn't Roshar where the Recreance occured? I think that belief has A LOT to do with it. We have seen belief throughout this series time and time again. I also think that the Purelake being mountains in the Shadesmar is important. Not all water gets to be mountains. 1
RShara she/her Posted March 17, 2014 Author Posted March 17, 2014 I still think the shape of the continent looks either like a dragon, or like an Aes Sedai symbol I also think that the Purelake being mountains in the Shadesmar is important. Not all water gets to be mountains. I wonder if the more shallow the water in the Physical, the higher the mountains in the Cognitive? 1
Swimmingly he/him Posted March 17, 2014 Posted March 17, 2014 Then every puddle would be a pillar to the sky
PunSpren he/him Posted March 17, 2014 Posted March 17, 2014 (edited) I found a similar glyph/ stamp/ cymatic to the one on the shadesmar map,on the map of Althekar in TWOK on the shattered plains ? Not sure if this relates, because this was a map done in world, where Shadesmar is........ well we dont know who did the shadesmar map do we ? Edit: spelling Edited March 17, 2014 by PunSpren 1
Pinpoint he/him Posted March 17, 2014 Posted March 17, 2014 (edited) I still think the shape of the continent looks either like a dragon, or like an Aes Sedai symbol I wonder if the more shallow the water in the Physical, the higher the mountains in the Cognitive? I thought of that but then I noticed that the Southern depths on Roshar were Mountains in the Shadesmar Anybody else seeing the beasty face? http://screencast.com/t/Az9B0fGeD3vN look for a face like this http://screencast.com/t/YMFHfiTr http://screencast.com/t/zejVE7M4nLHe this one looks like a city. you can almost see the spires and the stair case Look for a city like this, http://screencast.com/t/Cgb89ZDJ01 Here something interesting and probably totally irrelevant. You know the painting called The Creation of Adam on the ceiling of the Sistine Chapel? The shape of the sea in The Shadesmar looks quite a bit like the shape and arrangement of the people in the painting. Put the hand right about here and I can kind of see the two matching up. http://screencast.com/t/mGQcM4vz9yyK Or maybe I'm just going crazy Brandon's books have a tendency to do that to me Edited March 17, 2014 by Pinpoint 2
Ryshadium she/her Posted March 17, 2014 Posted March 17, 2014 Roshar has always looked like a hurricane to me. Irrelevant, I know, but I can't ever see it as anything else. 4
Shardbearer he/him Posted March 17, 2014 Posted March 17, 2014 (edited) The pattern on the Shadesmar map near Khabranth was found ages ago, and it sparked a hunt on the other WoK maps which revealed other things, like the same symbol on the Shattered planes. I'll see if I can find the thread... Here it is: http://www.17thshard.com/forum/topic/1640-isasik-shulin Edited March 17, 2014 by Shardbearer 3
PunSpren he/him Posted March 17, 2014 Posted March 17, 2014 Well darn I got excited thinking we found something new thanks for point us to the thread shardbearer
Shardlet he/him Posted March 17, 2014 Posted March 17, 2014 Well darn I got excited thinking we found something new thanks for point us to the thread shardbearer That same symbol is on at least almost all of the maps in WoK and WoR (probably not on Nazh's Shattered Plains map). It is the focus for all of the lay lines in the southern Frostplanes map which shows Shallan's landfall location.
PunSpren he/him Posted March 17, 2014 Posted March 17, 2014 That same symbol is on at least almost all of the maps in WoK and WoR (probably not on Nazh's Shattered Plains map). It is the focus for all of the lay lines in the southern Frostplanes map which shows Shallan's landfall location.Oh no, I know that, I was just saying that I thought finding it on the Shadesmar map in the Frostlands was new, I just didn't realize it was talked about over a year ago on that thread Shardbearer posted the link of
Pinpoint he/him Posted March 17, 2014 Posted March 17, 2014 http://screencast.com/t/bskIGAznKA Oops, theres the link to a trace of the face on the map. Had this already been found before?
Harakeke Posted March 17, 2014 Posted March 17, 2014 (edited) The map of Roshar is symmetrical at the diagonal axis. References to Odium rebranding the world as his? /tinfoil hat on Interesting. I believe that's the same axis of symmetry as the "Voidbinding" Glyphs. I zoomed in on the signature. There is a symbol next to it... Looks like it could be the same glyph that's stamped in red on the stance scroll illustration. If you look at the Black and white map by Isasik there seem to be 4 glyphs I haven't seen translated, there are three in the upper border. ( they are patterned around the whole map but you can seem them clearest at the top) And the glyph behind the " MAP of ROSHAR" from what I can tell both circles are glyphs that are instead of being patterned into quadrants but into thirds..... I for one would love to see that particular set of glyphs translated. Im working on messing with the circular glyph and seeing if I can pull out the glyph shape from the image. Ill upload that in a bit Yep. Tones of glyphs written all over that map. Also, there are several cities that the compass rose rays intersect... could be of note. I sharpened, upped the contrast, and enlarged the pattern/stamp/cymatic? on the Shadesmar map. I have no idea what it is Also...is there script very very faintly on the physical realm landmasses? It's most "clear" on the plains near the Valley on the map. I suspect that the Compass Rose glyph has something to do with the Oathgates and/or Urithiru Edited March 17, 2014 by Harakeke
tareth Posted March 17, 2014 Posted March 17, 2014 (edited) Not really important at all, but "The Misted Mountains" over on the eastern side of Shinovar made me smile. EDIT: Also, has anyone ever noticed that Roshar looks like a sort of stretched and twisted version of Antarctica? I don't think it would take a whole lot of morphing to make this look like Roshar. Edited March 17, 2014 by tareth
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