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1 hour ago, Through The Living Glass said:

She glared at them and asked someone else.

She was met with the same reaction. 

Bat rested his hands on the wall and Pushed as hard as he could. 

Nothing happened. 

Posted
2 minutes ago, Bird Furious said:

She was met with the same reaction. 

Bat rested his hands on the wall and Pushed as hard as he could. 

Nothing happened. 

Tam sighed.

"Well I don't want to, like . . . well, y'know. But I'm wondering if that's the only way in."

Posted
7 minutes ago, Through The Living Glass said:

Tam sighed.

"Well I don't want to, like . . . well, y'know. But I'm wondering if that's the only way in."

"Do it. Please." 

Posted
2 hours ago, epl2 said:

Thousands of thoughts buzz around in Taeidin's mind as he considers the implications of what has just been revealed.

"Wait, then - what am I doing? Why am I - there's no direction, you know. What's the motivation? It would have to be at least 4+2... Oh! That explains a lot of things. Altered spacetime, maybe? But I could tell. But! I mean... Narration already destroys the equilibrium. Unless... a fifth type? Upstream, downstream... I think I could do it," he says to himself. 

Turning back to Rebus, he continues. 

"So, they're like gods, but only of certain people? How do they control us? What are they made out of?" 

Rebus, being a metaphysicist, followed the rambling - but unfortunately his Author understand the context enough to comment. “The Authors are physical people in what is - as far as I know - the real world. They live on a planet called Earth, which would seem very ordinary to us - magic is not real there, and they have a moderate tech level. As for how they control us, I’ll give an example: one sunny day, a tree named Harold decided to take a walk. If you proceed to say what Harold sees on his walk, and maybe invent someone to encounter and talk to him, it would be a pretty good demonstration of what the Authors do.” 

2 hours ago, Immortal Platypus said:

It continued to spin in circles, occasionally punctuated by a period where it pointed directly away from Eof's house.

Rebus checked to make sure the period was statistically significant, then walked to a nearby rock and lifted it. Eof could see the future, after all… If he was on their side, underneath there should have been a key. Was that Eof? It might have been someone different… 

1 hour ago, Bird Furious said:

"Heh," Xanther chuckled. "All right. I suppose you don't know either, then? Quite all right, quite all right." He paused. 

Symbol reached up to fix a small clip in her hair and quickly wiped her eyes as well. She wasn't certain she wanted to know what was written anymore. Every line was punctuated by the question of how contrived it had been. How fake. "It wasn't so green," she continued, just to focus on something else. "I used to dream about places like this." 

Rebus decided to void the contract he had made, since it was getting in the way without actually doing anything. He’d still honor the agreement, though - the actual agreement, not the word-twisted version. “Well, my goal is to prevent my destruction, and by extension the destruction of the Thread. By extension, my main focus at the moment is on the Plotblades of Antagonist and Protagonist. You, too, are helping Bat to grow into the latter role - if he acquires it, I acquire Antagonist. If I acquire Antagonist, since I’m not an omnicidal monster, the Thread becomes a safer place.” 

Rebus understood the feeling. Maybe…  but no, that was ridiculous. Or perhaps it might not be… he would consider the idea - perhaps it might solve all their problems. But he wanted Symbol to know that he didn’t fake things, even if he was doing them for more than one reason. “I don’t dream. Thinking about it, I wish I could.” 

Posted
1 hour ago, Dragonheir said:

Rebus checked to make sure the period was statistically significant, then walked to a nearby rock and lifted it. Eof could see the future, after all… If he was on their side, underneath there should have been a key. Was that Eof? It might have been someone different… 

Unfortunately for Rebus, Eof had been able to see the future, with a special emphasis on "had." He had given up those capabilities long ago. 

Posted
7 hours ago, Immortal Platypus said:

that's... not what emulsifiers are. there needs to be something that holds the alloy together, or else they won't mix.

I know. I think. things have been out of wack for me recently. But couldn't shaping be an emulsifier? It could hold the alloys together. The Shaping power (Generated from the mordite-luxite reaction) holds itself together, albiet barely. That is why it cant be stable for long without something keeping the shaping power going.

4 hours ago, Dragonheir said:

Rebus refilled the drink and waited to see if the relevant Author would write in a body. 

Rebus chuckled a little, thinking of his outfit - and what he had just done. He didn’t say anything, though. 

Rebus was a little sad about all those thoughts. She may have been right - certainly at the beginning of their relationship he had been simply trying to benefit himself - but that didn’t mean that causing her emotional pain and watching Lady Bug do the same made him feel good. In fact, it made him feel guilty for the first time in quite a while. 

“Not that I know. I cannot lie, actually - it would literally break my word.” 

Rebus probably should have expected that. He put the compass on a little drone and moved it away from the Narrator interference. 

The young man who had been thinking at Bacon came over to speak to him. “He does make sense, in a way. You simply have to jump to several conclusions, follow an addled chain of free association, determine what is legitimate figgldygrak, and then put together the resulting rebus in a way that makes sense. Earlier, for instance, he was saying that rather than a directive, he was inverted and rooted - in other words, especially imaginary.” 
Meat stabbed him with Nonsense, and went hurdling off into the distance. “Telekinetic parkour typos? It’s him in a way.” 

Alright. Let’s get you an idea, then! Perhaps we can make a list of properties that fluctuate continuously, and then ones that do not. 

All I know is that I want 3 things for smokite/shaping in general:

1. Somewhat outside of the system, and very strange and unstable

2. Involve shapeshifting and shaping in the object itself

3. Mordite-Luxite alloy (possibly solves first 2 problems)

but, as Platapus said before, I am not sure if shaping would properly work as an emulsifier.

Posted
1 hour ago, Through The Living Glass said:

". . . Uh, okay . . ."

She Narrated the doorway open.

The stone swung open seamlessly to reveal a corridor. Bat grabbed her hand and ran along it, back to the empty room. 

1 hour ago, Dragonheir said:

Rebus, being a metaphysicist, followed the rambling - but unfortunately his Author understand the context enough to comment. “The Authors are physical people in what is - as far as I know - the real world. They live on a planet called Earth, which would seem very ordinary to us - magic is not real there, and they have a moderate tech level. As for how they control us, I’ll give an example: one sunny day, a tree named Harold decided to take a walk. If you proceed to say what Harold sees on his walk, and maybe invent someone to encounter and talk to him, it would be a pretty good demonstration of what the Authors do.” 

Rebus checked to make sure the period was statistically significant, then walked to a nearby rock and lifted it. Eof could see the future, after all… If he was on their side, underneath there should have been a key. Was that Eof? It might have been someone different… 

Rebus decided to void the contract he had made, since it was getting in the way without actually doing anything. He’d still honor the agreement, though - the actual agreement, not the word-twisted version. “Well, my goal is to prevent my destruction, and by extension the destruction of the Thread. By extension, my main focus at the moment is on the Plotblades of Antagonist and Protagonist. You, too, are helping Bat to grow into the latter role - if he acquires it, I acquire Antagonist. If I acquire Antagonist, since I’m not an omnicidal monster, the Thread becomes a safer place.” 

Rebus understood the feeling. Maybe…  but no, that was ridiculous. Or perhaps it might not be… he would consider the idea - perhaps it might solve all their problems. But he wanted Symbol to know that he didn’t fake things, even if he was doing them for more than one reason. “I don’t dream. Thinking about it, I wish I could.” 

Symbol, who happened to be nearby with some pineapple wine( which was definitely a real thing shush), approved of his explanation. 

Symbol Narrated the rock into the shape of a dragon, just for fun. @Immortal Platypus lemme know if that works 

Xanther stared at him for a moment, then barked a laugh. "My boy, you must be joking! You, an Antagonist. Hah!" He wiped his eyes, which had filled with tears from his mirth. "Don't you know you have to be a villain for that? Or slightly sinister? Or the proponent of morbid curiosity, like myself? Don't you know you have to actually oppose the hero? Great gats, man, even I'd be better, and I have nothing to hide!" 

She tilted her head at him thoughtfully. "I don't think you need to." 

Posted
5 hours ago, Dragonheir said:

Rebus refilled the drink and waited to see if the relevant Author would write in a body. 

Rebus chuckled a little, thinking of his outfit - and what he had just done. He didn’t say anything, though. 

Rebus was a little sad about all those thoughts. She may have been right - certainly at the beginning of their relationship he had been simply trying to benefit himself - but that didn’t mean that causing her emotional pain and watching Lady Bug do the same made him feel good. In fact, it made him feel guilty for the first time in quite a while. 

“Not that I know. I cannot lie, actually - it would literally break my word.” 

Rebus probably should have expected that. He put the compass on a little drone and moved it away from the Narrator interference. 

The young man who had been thinking at Bacon came over to speak to him. “He does make sense, in a way. You simply have to jump to several conclusions, follow an addled chain of free association, determine what is legitimate figgldygrak, and then put together the resulting rebus in a way that makes sense. Earlier, for instance, he was saying that rather than a directive, he was inverted and rooted - in other words, especially imaginary.” 
Meat stabbed him with Nonsense, and went hurdling off into the distance. “Telekinetic parkour typos? It’s him in a way.” 

Alright. Let’s get you an idea, then! Perhaps we can make a list of properties that fluctuate continuously, and then ones that do not. 

Relevant Author asks what you mean. I don't understand those words in that order

Posted
18 minutes ago, Immortal Platypus said:

Unfortunately for Rebus, Eof had been able to see the future, with a special emphasis on "had." He had given up those capabilities long ago. 

That was unfortunate. Rebus considered breaking and entering, but that would be awkward on the off chance it wasn’t Platypus. 

3 minutes ago, CoderDrag0n8 said:

All I know is that I want 3 things for smokite/shaping in general:

1. Somewhat outside of the system, and very strange and unstable

2. Involve shapeshifting and shaping in the object itself

3. Mordite-Luxite alloy (possibly solves first 2 problems)

but, as Platapus said before, I am not sure if shaping would properly work as an emulsifier.

I think Mordite-Prismite could also be possible, yielding what is effectively pure Chaos and should poof instantly. Platypus knows more about this part of the lore, honestly. 

4 minutes ago, Bird Furious said:

Symbol, who happened to be nearby with some pineapple wine( which was definitely a real thing shush), approved of his explanation. 

Symbol Narrated the rock into the shape of a dragon, just for fun. @Immortal Platypus lemme know if that works 

Xanther stared at him for a moment, then barked a laugh. "My boy, you must be joking! You, an Antagonist. Hah!" He wiped his eyes, which had filled with tears from his mirth. "Don't you know you have to be a villain for that? Or slightly sinister? Or the proponent of morbid curiosity, like myself? Don't you know you have to actually oppose the hero? Great gats, man, even I'd be better, and I have nothing to hide!" 

She tilted her head at him thoughtfully. "I don't think you need to." 

I think you can probably ferment pineapple… 

Rebus was interested in the result. 
“I’m biding my time and watching them go around in circles, occasionally making cryptic threats. I’ve already set the seeds of their destruction, physically or emotionally. I destroyed much of Bat’s home, and am holding some of his people hostage of their own free will. I am willing to let the whole world burn as long as the few people I actually care about make it out alive. If it lets the people I care about make it out alive, I will burn it myself. But until it becomes necessary, I will not, because I am not fond of doing things meaninglessly.” Rebus said all of this impassively, with a friendly smile. 
Rebus briefly thought Symbol was talking about his idea, but then realized it was likely dreams. “No, I don’t need to. But to be able to actually let my mind wander and truly create…” 

1 minute ago, Kaladin Stormcursed said:

Relevant Author asks what you mean. I don't understand those words in that order

A cameo, of yourself. You’re not actually there, but you can write yourself in, making a body for other characters to interact with. 

Posted
2 minutes ago, Dragonheir said:

That was unfortunate. Rebus considered breaking and entering, but that would be awkward on the off chance it wasn’t Platypus. 

I think Mordite-Prismite could also be possible, yielding what is effectively pure Chaos and should poof instantly. Platypus knows more about this part of the lore, honestly. 

I think you can probably ferment pineapple… 

Rebus was interested in the result. 
“I’m biding my time and watching them go around in circles, occasionally making cryptic threats. I’ve already set the seeds of their destruction, physically or emotionally. I destroyed much of Bat’s home, and am holding some of his people hostage of their own free will. I am willing to let the whole world burn as long as the few people I actually care about make it out alive. If it lets the people I care about make it out alive, I will burn it myself. But until it becomes necessary, I will not, because I am not fond of doing things meaninglessly.” Rebus said all of this impassively, with a friendly smile. 
Rebus briefly thought Symbol was talking about his idea, but then realized it was likely dreams. “No, I don’t need to. But to be able to actually let my mind wander and truly create…” 

A cameo, of yourself. You’re not actually there, but you can write yourself in, making a body for other characters to interact with. 

A tall figure appears nearby. "Wassup Cep."

Cep stares. "Whoa. Tha's freaky. But also soo cool!!" He starts pacing around and muttering to himself.

The figure snorts. "Well, that didn't take him long. Guess I'll just let him process." He then turns to Rebus and waves. "Hullo."

 @epl2 I assume you're still here to see this?

 

Posted
21 minutes ago, Dragonheir said:

That was unfortunate. Rebus considered breaking and entering, but that would be awkward on the off chance it wasn’t Platypus. 

 

I think you can probably ferment pineapple… 

Rebus was interested in the result. 
“I’m biding my time and watching them go around in circles, occasionally making cryptic threats. I’ve already set the seeds of their destruction, physically or emotionally. I destroyed much of Bat’s home, and am holding some of his people hostage of their own free will. I am willing to let the whole world burn as long as the few people I actually care about make it out alive. If it lets the people I care about make it out alive, I will burn it myself. But until it becomes necessary, I will not, because I am not fond of doing things meaninglessly.” Rebus said all of this impassively, with a friendly smile. 
Rebus briefly thought Symbol was talking about his idea, but then realized it was likely dreams. “No, I don’t need to. But to be able to actually let my mind wander and truly create…” 

A cameo, of yourself. You’re not actually there, but you can write yourself in, making a body for other characters to interact with. 

"I tried burning the door down already," she said. 

Xanther shrugged. "You need to be scarier. I'm sorry to say it, my dear boy, but you truly do not seem menacing. You're a pigeon on a rooftop yelling about how you're going to sink your fangs into everyone in the city. Be more archetypal. Be more menacing, at least to your Protagonist!" He folded his arms. "Or at least a version of yourself. You're falling into the same trap Platypus fell into recently, and the same one my Author constantly finds herself in." 

"Truly create," she repeated, then chuckled. She picked a leaf off a bush and rubbed it between her fingers. "In a dream." 

Posted
28 minutes ago, Dragonheir said:

That was unfortunate. Rebus considered breaking and entering, but that would be awkward on the off chance it wasn’t Platypus. 

I think Mordite-Prismite could also be possible, yielding what is effectively pure Chaos and should poof instantly. Platypus knows more about this part of the lore, honestly. 

I think you can probably ferment pineapple… 

Rebus was interested in the result. 
“I’m biding my time and watching them go around in circles, occasionally making cryptic threats. I’ve already set the seeds of their destruction, physically or emotionally. I destroyed much of Bat’s home, and am holding some of his people hostage of their own free will. I am willing to let the whole world burn as long as the few people I actually care about make it out alive. If it lets the people I care about make it out alive, I will burn it myself. But until it becomes necessary, I will not, because I am not fond of doing things meaninglessly.” Rebus said all of this impassively, with a friendly smile. 
Rebus briefly thought Symbol was talking about his idea, but then realized it was likely dreams. “No, I don’t need to. But to be able to actually let my mind wander and truly create…” 

A cameo, of yourself. You’re not actually there, but you can write yourself in, making a body for other characters to interact with. 

Yeah. That is kind of the point of Mordite-Prismite. To have VERY similar properties to smokite. Because it is smokite.

Posted
8 minutes ago, Through The Living Glass said:

She closed it behind them and ran with him.

Well . . . that works.

"Open that one too," he demanded, pointing at the wall he thought the girl had come from. 

Posted
1 minute ago, Through The Living Glass said:

She put a hand on his arm.

"Whoa, Bat, slow down . . . calm . . ." she said gently before opening the door.

The door did not open. 

Bat ignored her and stepped forward, Pushing at the door. He growled, then pulled out a bottle of tattoo ink. "There's something there." 

Posted
2 minutes ago, Bird Furious said:

The door did not open. 

Bat ignored her and stepped forward, Pushing at the door. He growled, then pulled out a bottle of tattoo ink. "There's something there." 

She stepped up beside him, eyeing the ink.

"Bat, look at me."

Posted
1 minute ago, Through The Living Glass said:

She stepped up beside him, eyeing the ink.

"Bat, look at me."

He took a deep breath and looked over at her, then popped open the bottle and guzzled it. He put his hands back on where he thought the door was, closed his eyes, and Shoved it again.

And fell backwards. 

Posted
8 minutes ago, Bird Furious said:

He took a deep breath and looked over at her, then popped open the bottle and guzzled it. He put his hands back on where he thought the door was, closed his eyes, and Shoved it again.

And fell backwards. 

Only slightly horrified, she rushed to help him up.

"What was that!?" she cried, offering him a hand.

Posted
1 hour ago, CoderDrag0n8 said:

I know. I think. things have been out of wack for me recently. But couldn't shaping be an emulsifier? It could hold the alloys together. The Shaping power (Generated from the mordite-luxite reaction) holds itself together, albiet barely. That is why it cant be stable for long without something keeping the shaping power going.

All I know is that I want 3 things for smokite/shaping in general:

1. Somewhat outside of the system, and very strange and unstable

2. Involve shapeshifting and shaping in the object itself

3. Mordite-Luxite alloy (possibly solves first 2 problems)

but, as Platapus said before, I am not sure if shaping would properly work as an emulsifier.

if my understanding of emulsifiers is correct (and I think it is), shaping could not be an emulsifier. An emulsifier is needed to cause the reaction, but once it's done, it's relatively stable (this wouldn't necessarily be the case here, it just is generally). The shaping power could not be generated from the reaction, as the reaction couldn't occur without the emulsifier. 

The closest thing we have to a Mordite-Luxite alloy is probably the Plotblades, as they consist of all four Essences. Personally, I don't see how it would be mechanically possible to alloy Mordite and Luxite (or Prismite and Nullite for that matter). They just don't share anything that could unite them. The other two qualities should be relatively easy to satisfy, however. See below.

1 hour ago, Bird Furious said:

The stone swung open seamlessly to reveal a corridor. Bat grabbed her hand and ran along it, back to the empty room. 

Symbol, who happened to be nearby with some pineapple wine( which was definitely a real thing shush), approved of his explanation. 

Symbol Narrated the rock into the shape of a dragon, just for fun. @Immortal Platypus lemme know if that works 

Xanther stared at him for a moment, then barked a laugh. "My boy, you must be joking! You, an Antagonist. Hah!" He wiped his eyes, which had filled with tears from his mirth. "Don't you know you have to be a villain for that? Or slightly sinister? Or the proponent of morbid curiosity, like myself? Don't you know you have to actually oppose the hero? Great gats, man, even I'd be better, and I have nothing to hide!" 

She tilted her head at him thoughtfully. "I don't think you need to." 

It was just a normal rock, so it was the shape of a dragon now.

1 hour ago, Dragonheir said:

That was unfortunate. Rebus considered breaking and entering, but that would be awkward on the off chance it wasn’t Platypus. 

I think Mordite-Prismite could also be possible, yielding what is effectively pure Chaos and should poof instantly. Platypus knows more about this part of the lore, honestly. 

Breaking and entering would be quite difficult. It was Eof's house, after all. perhaps try your triangulation.

honestly, this probably works the best of the proposals I've heard. There would need to be some sort of emulsifier, and it wouldn't be quite pure Chaos, but that would explain how it stays in existence at least temporarily. It would be kind of like how the Darkalloy is basically very watered-down Nullite (with much more Dark compared to Order), Smokite would be basically watered-down Prismite (much more Chaos compared to Light). This would satisfy requirements 1 and 2, and I don't think satisfying requirement 3 is canonically possible. 

Posted
1 minute ago, Through The Living Glass said:

Only slightly horrified, she rushed to help him up.

"What was that!?" she cried, offering him a hand.

He grabbed her hand and stood up. "Forgot," he muttered, and moved over to the opposite side of the room, bracing himself against the wall. Then he Shoved again. 

The door squealed, but it didn't move. Bat gritted his teeth and Shoved harder. 

Posted
Just now, Bird Furious said:

He grabbed her hand and stood up. "Forgot," he muttered, and moved over to the opposite side of the room, bracing himself against the wall. Then he Shoved again. 

The door squealed, but it didn't move. Bat gritted his teeth and Shoved harder. 

Her eyes narrowed.

"Bat, stop it. You're going to hurt yourself."

Posted
Just now, Immortal Platypus said:

if my understanding of emulsifiers is correct (and I think it is), shaping could not be an emulsifier. An emulsifier is needed to cause the reaction, but once it's done, it's relatively stable (this wouldn't necessarily be the case here, it just is generally). The shaping power could not be generated from the reaction, as the reaction couldn't occur without the emulsifier. 

The closest thing we have to a Mordite-Luxite alloy is probably the Plotblades, as they consist of all four Essences. Personally, I don't see how it would be mechanically possible to alloy Mordite and Luxite (or Prismite and Nullite for that matter). They just don't share anything that could unite them. The other two qualities should be relatively easy to satisfy, however. See below.

It was just a normal rock, so it was the shape of a dragon now.

Breaking and entering would be quite difficult. It was Eof's house, after all. perhaps try your triangulation.

honestly, this probably works the best of the proposals I've heard. There would need to be some sort of emulsifier, and it wouldn't be quite pure Chaos, but that would explain how it stays in existence at least temporarily. It would be kind of like how the Darkalloy is basically very watered-down Nullite (with much more Dark compared to Order), Smokite would be basically watered-down Prismite (much more Chaos compared to Light). This would satisfy requirements 1 and 2, and I don't think satisfying requirement 3 is canonically possible. 

Symbol grinned and grabbed a chunk of the rock, moving to the doorway. She shoved it into the keyhole of the doorknob or whatever was there, Narrating it to fit the shape of the lock around it until she was able to turn it. 

Again, lemme know if this works 

1 minute ago, Through The Living Glass said:

Her eyes narrowed.

"Bat, stop it. You're going to hurt yourself."

He shoved one more time, then growled in frustration. 

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