STINK he/him Posted March 31, 2018 Posted March 31, 2018 Drought I may have forgot that Drake did something about that, good ol mobile experience. Honestly also not sure on who to vote for, but out of the player list, Trust Mad the most (had a fair few PMs and already knew her role beforehand) Basically everyone else is above 50% on villageness which is a problem. Except Drought, who is not acting Villagey. Gah, gotta go look after some cousins now but I'll be back.
Eternum he/him Posted March 31, 2018 Posted March 31, 2018 Seems like I won't be abke to deliver on that analysis, again. Busy with other stuff atm, sadly. However, I'll place a vote on Coop. They're really the only person I'm suspicious of. It's mainly a gut read, but that's better than nothing, and we need a lynch.
Herowannabe he/him Posted March 31, 2018 Posted March 31, 2018 (edited) Less than 90 minutes left in the cycle, and everybody is withdrawing their vote. This is supposed to be the point in the cycle where we add votes, not remove them. @Devotary of Spontaneity: thank you for the player list / role summary. That’s very helpful. Can I ask you to expound upon the Faux GM role- you can end any round early?? Wow! Is that a once per game ability or can you do it more than once? Is faux GM the name of the ability? Anyway, seeing everybody’s role up there... doesn’t help me find any suspicions. It seems likely that someone is lying about their role (because none of them seem to have any conversion powers), but I have no clue who. It could be one of the proclaimed-scholars. Steeldancer and Droughtbringer both have things recommending them from past voting patterns, and I know I’m villager (yes I realize that none of you have any reason to believe my word, but it’s true and I know it is, so I have to act on that knowledge), which leaves coop, who I have already been wary of. So I guess if I had to guess, I think it likely that one of either coop or stink are eliminators, or maybe Madagascar. Or maybe Devotary. Or maybe any player other than me. I don’t know. Coop . Edit: ninja’d by Eternum. Interesting that we both settled on Coop... Edited March 31, 2018 by Herowannabe
Devotary of Spontaneity Posted March 31, 2018 Posted March 31, 2018 I could go for a Coop lynch. @Coop772, you should probably respond because you have 3 votes on you. On 3/29/2018 at 6:36 PM, Coop772 said: If he has a role that changes his view for scanners, chances are he's evil or neutral, but probably not neutral b/c we already have one (jon) So, in this instance we should lynch him If he was a scholar, then got his alignment switched, it means that he is now evil or neutral, but why would neutral have a conversion ability? End result: he's evil, lynch him. This post seems off to me. I can kind of see the assumption that a scholar who had their alignment changed is now evil or neutral, as scholar by itself doesn't seem like a neutral role and it's unlikely that an evil player changed alignment. I don't see why someone couldn't have their alignment changed to neutral. I've already explained why I found it odd that Coop voted for Hero, so I won't quote that again. I do find it odd that Coop would make the assumption that the removal of Hero's vote meant he was evil. In Coop's first, and so far only, game (QF 29), he was lynched precisely because a village vote manipulator removed his vote two cycles in a row. 3 minutes ago, Herowannabe said: Can I ask you to expound upon the Faux GM role- you can end any round early?? Wow! Is that a once per game ability or can you do it more than once? Is faux GM the name of the ability? That isn't actually my role. Elenion won't be on for rollover, and wants someone to announce the end of the cycle when the countdown clock hits zero. As the first person to post after Elenion requested this, I volunteered. That would be an interesting role to have, though.
Coop772 Posted March 31, 2018 Posted March 31, 2018 I'm going to vote Madagascar, primarily in order to survive. We still don't have any idea what their role is, and the three votes on me are 3 votes on a villager. plz don't kill me
Herowannabe he/him Posted March 31, 2018 Posted March 31, 2018 23 minutes ago, Devotary of Spontaneity said: That isn't actually my role. Elenion won't be on for rollover, and wants someone to announce the end of the cycle when the countdown clock hits zero. As the first person to post after Elenion requested this, I volunteered. That would be an interesting role to have, though. Care to share your role with us now? You’re the only one who hasn’t claimed a role (or had their role revealed by someone else). It’s highly likely that @Eternum is going to scan you anyway, so might as well reveal it now.
Devotary of Spontaneity Posted March 31, 2018 Posted March 31, 2018 Coop(3): Eternum, Herowannabe, Devotary Madagascar(2): Steeldancer, Coop We have 25 minutes left if @STINK, @Jondesu, @Madagascar, or @Droughtbringer, would care to vote. 7 minutes ago, Herowannabe said: Care to share your role with us now? I don't like to roleclaim, but at this point I don't think it does any harm to declare that I am also a scholar. This can be confirmed by either Eternum or Stink.
Madagascar Posted March 31, 2018 Posted March 31, 2018 11 minutes ago, Coop772 said: I'm going to vote Madagascar, primarily in order to survive. We still don't have any idea what their role is, and the three votes on me are 3 votes on a villager. plz don't kill me *Mapadonet rises from a hail of pigs* Plenty of people know what mah piggy wiggy's role is. I'm a brilliant scientist. I told Stink a few days ago, and Eternum told everyone else. I can't fault you fer voting fer me to survive, but at least get yer facts straight.
Eternum he/him Posted March 31, 2018 Posted March 31, 2018 Yeah, at this point I'm pretty certain at least one person is lying about being a Scholar...
Madagascar Posted March 31, 2018 Posted March 31, 2018 I also suppose someone could be a Scholar and still be evil. I seem to recall Chaos an' Kynedath havin' the same role but bein' on different sides. I could look it up, but I'd rather play in the mud with my pigs for the rest of the day. For, errrrrr, science, of course.
Devotary of Spontaneity Posted March 31, 2018 Posted March 31, 2018 2 minutes ago, Eternum said: Yeah, at this point I'm pretty certain at least one person is lying about being a Scholar... If so, it's probably one of Droughtbringer, Coop, or me. Hero is confirmed, and Steeldancer was the first one to claim. Droughbringer could only be lying if he was an escaped inmate since C2, which I don't think he is. And of course, I know I'm not lying about my role. That leaves Coop. 1
Devotary of Spontaneity Posted March 31, 2018 Posted March 31, 2018 The timer has run out, so: Cycle is closed! 1
Elenion he/him Posted March 31, 2018 Author Posted March 31, 2018 (edited) The stormwall hit Kharbranth, sending trash whizzing down alleyways and temporarily cleaning out the stench of death and disease that had begun to hang over Kharbranth. Most of the people were inside; the only ones who weren’t were those too weak to walk. In the large shelter by the town square, Eternum’s absence had been noticed. “Hopefully he’s in another shelter,” someone said, “I’d hate to think what shape he’d be in if he was out in the storm.” The door to the shelter banged open and a wretchedly-dressed boy rushed in, soaked to the skin. “Message from Captain Greer, sirs. Eternum’s body was found just before the Highstorm hit.” It was amazing what the street urchins would do for a couple spheres. This one had apparently run through the city, in a highstorm, dodging from shelter to shelter, just to bring a single sentence. And yet the message had such a great effect on those in the shelter that nobody thought to pay him. “It’s Coop! He lied about the hiccups and now this!” “It’s the crazy pig lady! It’s always the crazy pig lady!” “It’s Droughtbringer! He’s been so quiet lately--it could have been the guilt, right?” More voices joined the shouting match, and soon enough punches were being thrown. A pair of city guardsmen attempted to break up the fight, but it took them 15 minutes to finally round up the instigators and send them to the far corners of the shelter. When the tussle finally cleared, a body could be seen, laying facedown in the center of the shelter. It was Coop, trampled in the melee. Coop was lynched! They were a Scholar allied with the Kharbranth Citizens! Eternum was killed! They were a Private Detective allied with the Kharbranth Citizens! Scholar: Strong Opinions: Your votes cannot be tampered with. Vote count: Coop (3): Eternum, Hero, Devotary Madagascar (2): Steeldancer, Coop Player list: Spoiler 1. Walin: Nalter, a tastespren scholar Kharbranth Citizens Politician2. Jondesu: Div3. Devotary of Spontaneity: Akhanaka, a fearless ardent4. Eternum: Aiden Kharbranth Citizens Private Detective5. Kynedath: Lo-Kag, third Horneater son Escaped Inmates Proto-Bondsmith6. LivingLegend: Lej'elin, a teen disgusted with the Alethi for good reason Kharbranth Citizens Private Detective7. Droughtbringer8. Orlok: Highlord Locke Tekiel Skybreakers Nale, Herald of Justice9. STINK: Trumpet Guy, BWOOT10. Madagascar: "Mad" Mapadonet, a famous pig researcher.11. Stick: Stick, a sticky stick Skybreakers Skybreaker Apprentice12. Amanuensis: Ana Lyst Skybreakers Skybreaker Apprentice13. Drake Marshall: Ev Escaped Inmates Proto-Lightweaver14. Fifth Scholar: Nolan Kharbranth Citizens Lift 15. Herowannabe: Nabbers, a Herdazian chouta street vendor16. Coop772 Kharbranth Citizens Scholar17. Ecthelion III Kharbranth Citizens The Undertaker18. Steeldancer19. Lady of Chaos Kharbranth Citizens Proto-Windrunner Edited April 2, 2018 by Elenion 3
Steeldancer he/him Posted April 1, 2018 Posted April 1, 2018 And my suspicion remains upon Madagascar . Stink, why do you even trust him so much?
STINK he/him Posted April 1, 2018 Posted April 1, 2018 9 hours ago, Steeldancer said: And my suspicion remains upon Madagascar . Stink, why do you even trust him so much? Honestly ignoring this post when there's no evidence or anything like that, just looks like you're trying to bait people. Actual suspicion wise: I do agree with the sentiment that there's gotta be something going on with all these scholar claims, but don't have the time to actually go through any of that cause it's Easter Sunday I kinda trust Devotary the most out of y'all Scholars, cause as well as doing vote tally's (NAI but I still love them for it) they have also been throwing in some good thoughts with their posts. Steel and Drought though, hm. Hero also does cool RP.
Madagascar Posted April 1, 2018 Posted April 1, 2018 And that's about all Mapadonet's got to say right now. Right now she's gotta chase a lot of pigs. They heard a rumor that there were free eggs lyin' around downtown Kharbranth and they're kinda out of control. Need to catch them before they get hurt. Poor things didn't realize it was fool's day, because no one ever gives me and mah piggies free anything, really It's just a trick of the shopkeepers to lure them in and try to turn them into chouta. So, uh, yeah, this is important, obviously, but I kind of have priorities. And did we ever hear what Jondesu's role was called again?
Herowannabe he/him Posted April 1, 2018 Posted April 1, 2018 (edited) 9 hours ago, STINK said: I kinda trust Devotary the most out of y'all Scholars, cause as well as doing vote tally's (NAI but I still love them for it) they have also been throwing in some good thoughts with their posts. Steel and Drought though, hm. Hero also does cool RP. Which is kind of funny because Devotary is the one I trust the least out of the self-proclaimed scholars. I was about to vote for Devotary, but it occurs to me that there is another way to test scholar claims. @STINK you should use your politician power on Devotary (or one of the other scholars you suspect). If the vote manipulation works then we know that they’re lying about their role. If it doesn’t then we know that they’re a scholar, though that doesn’t necessarily say anything about their alignment. Speaking of which, it occurs to me that someone was converted. And if I was going to convert someone then I would convert someone that everybody trusted. So in other words, Drought or Steel. Seeing as how Drought has barely been active this game, Steeldancer. Edited April 1, 2018 by Herowannabe Fixed Steeldancer’s name
Steeldancer he/him Posted April 1, 2018 Posted April 1, 2018 2 hours ago, Herowannabe said: Which is kind of funny because Devotary is the one I trust the least out of the self-proclaimed scholars. I was about to vote for Devotary, but it occurs to me that there is another way to test scholar claims. @STINK you should use your politician power on Devotary (or one of the other scholars you suspect). If the vote manipulation works then we know that they’re lying about their role. If it doesn’t then we know that they’re a scholar, though that doesn’t necessarily say anything about their alignment. Speaking of which, it occurs to me that someone was converted. And if I was going to convert someone then I would convert someone that everybody trusted. So in other words, Drought or Steel. Seeing as how Drought has barely been active this game, Steelrunner. First off, It's STEELDANCER, not Steelrunner. Second, what the heck? Why do you trust Madagascar?! Nobody has given me any explanation, and seriously, Stink, it would be helpful if you could actually be helpful for once. And if they were going to convert someone who everbody trusts, what says Stink didn't get converted? What evidence do you have that I have been converted, other than pure possibility? Have my opinions and strategies changed much during the game? Other than from the first cycle to the second cycle, no they have not. Please provide evidence for your vote.
Herowannabe he/him Posted April 1, 2018 Posted April 1, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, Steeldancer said: First off, It's STEELDANCER, not Steelrunner. Second, what the heck? Why do you trust Madagascar?! Nobody has given me any explanation, and seriously, Stink, it would be helpful if you could actually be helpful for once. And if they were going to convert someone who everbody trusts, what says Stink didn't get converted? What evidence do you have that I have been converted, other than pure possibility? Have my opinions and strategies changed much during the game? Other than from the first cycle to the second cycle, no they have not. Please provide evidence for your vote. I don’t trust Madagascar. I don’t really trust anyone other than myself. But there’s nobody I strongly suspect, either, so I have to rely on my logic to try as best as I can to deduce how roles work and how people would be inclined to use them. Hence why I’m voting for you, as I stated above. EDIT: Also, Madagascar is female, not male. Edited April 1, 2018 by Herowannabe
Steeldancer he/him Posted April 2, 2018 Posted April 2, 2018 2 hours ago, Herowannabe said: I don’t trust Madagascar. I don’t really trust anyone other than myself. But there’s nobody I strongly suspect, either, so I have to rely on my logic to try as best as I can to deduce how roles work and how people would be inclined to use them. Hence why I’m voting for you, as I stated above. EDIT: Also, Madagascar is female, not male. Ok. Your logic is faulty, and so I'm going to take it apart. First off, you assume that the alignment change is from village to elim. We have no idea if that is the case, and that alone- you assuming that that is the situation we are dealing with- makes me suspicious. I mean seriously, it could be any number of types of alignment changes. It could be elim to SK, it could be neutral to SK, village to neutral, neutral to elim, elim to neutral- we have no idea. Second, on the tenuous assumption that it was a village to elim alignment change, you then presume that they would want me on their team. Converting trusted villagers leads to a massive IKYK. So, instead of assuming this based on strategy, how about you consider the scenario and see if there is any evidence to fit the situation? Meanwhile, I am still suspicious of Madagascar, and have seen literally no reason to trust her, or any reason not to vote on her. Stink refuses to explain why he doesn't want to vote on her, which makes me suspicious that perhaps he got converted? However, it does seem a little oblique to make sense, but I do think lynching Madagascar would give some more information on the situation, especially as we have so few players left. I'm not saying to trust me, but rather to actually make a vote without so many assumptions behind it. Because right now, your assumptions are making me suspicious of you too.
Elenion he/him Posted April 2, 2018 Author Posted April 2, 2018 Write-up and player list have been edited in. Cycle will end as normal in approximately 18 hours.
Steeldancer he/him Posted April 2, 2018 Posted April 2, 2018 (edited) Um, it would be nice if some more people could show up? @Droughtbringer @Devotary of Spontaneity @Jondesu could you please vote? (Jondesu, i know you're neutral, but it would still be nice for you to help the village out). Also, i don't think there are many more elims left. We could end this in a turn or two, potentially. Edited April 2, 2018 by Steeldancer
Herowannabe he/him Posted April 2, 2018 Posted April 2, 2018 1 hour ago, Steeldancer said: Um, it would be nice if some more people could show up? @Droughtbringer @Devotary of Spontaneity @Jondesu could you please vote? (Jondesu, i know you're neutral, but it would still be nice for you to help the village out). Also, i don't think there are many more elims left. We could end this in a turn or two, potentially. I agree. And I would still add @STINK and @Madagascar to that list. Both of you have posted but haven’t voted or really discussed anyone. Come on everyone, this is the part of the game where it’s easiest to stay active, because you don’t have pages and pages of posts to catch up on every time you check the thread and there are only a half dozen people you have to analyze. Win or lose, let’s finish this game swinging, yeah? 14 hours ago, Steeldancer said: Ok. Your logic is faulty, and so I'm going to take it apart. First off, you assume that the alignment change is from village to elim. We have no idea if that is the case, and that alone- you assuming that that is the situation we are dealing with- makes me suspicious. I mean seriously, it could be any number of types of alignment changes. It could be elim to SK, it could be neutral to SK, village to neutral, neutral to elim, elim to neutral- we have no idea. Second, on the tenuous assumption that it was a village to elim alignment change, you then presume that they would want me on their team. Converting trusted villagers leads to a massive IKYK. So, instead of assuming this based on strategy, how about you consider the scenario and see if there is any evidence to fit the situation? Meanwhile, I am still suspicious of Madagascar, and have seen literally no reason to trust her, or any reason not to vote on her. Stink refuses to explain why he doesn't want to vote on her, which makes me suspicious that perhaps he got converted? However, it does seem a little oblique to make sense, but I do think lynching Madagascar would give some more information on the situation, especially as we have so few players left. I'm not saying to trust me, but rather to actually make a vote without so many assumptions behind it. Because right now, your assumptions are making me suspicious of you too. I realize my logic is faulty. If I had perfect logic backing up my suspicion for someone then I would be voting for that person. But I don’t, so I’m doing the best with what I’ve got. *shrug* For the sake of discussion, can I ask why exactly you’re so suspicious of Madagascar? You say you don’t have any reasons NOT to vote for her, but what reasons do you have TO vote for her?
STINK he/him Posted April 2, 2018 Posted April 2, 2018 22 hours ago, Herowannabe said: Which is kind of funny because Devotary is the one I trust the least out of the self-proclaimed scholars. I was about to vote for Devotary, but it occurs to me that there is another way to test scholar claims. @STINK you should use your politician power on Devotary (or one of the other scholars you suspect). If the vote manipulation works then we know that they’re lying about their role. If it doesn’t then we know that they’re a scholar, though that doesn’t necessarily say anything about their alignment. Aye, sounds like a good plan to me. Also kinda need Devotary to vote on someone for that to work too 19 hours ago, Steeldancer said: seriously, Stink, it would be helpful if you could actually be helpful for once. I thought I was being helpful for this game, no? And generally to Steel, you keep asking others to do what you yourself are not willing to do, which seems slightly hypocritical. Last cycle, I asked your reasons for voting Madagascar. This cycle, I ask your reasons for voting Madagascar. Still haven't seen em, but instead you're telling others to fess up about this and that, which is actually quite annoying. So Steel , it would be helpful if you could actually be helpful for once. (Also sorry about inactivity this cycle guys Easter festivities had some lasting effects)
Madagascar Posted April 2, 2018 Posted April 2, 2018 So when people vote for you, they owe you a logical explanation, but when they vote for Mad Mapadonet and her pigs, nothing more than a vague comment that I'm "suspicious" and "no reason" is required, apparently. I see where I stand in this city's pecking order, as envisioned by Steel. So as far as the pigs see it, Nabbers and Devotary have both claimed to be scholars and so far their voting records contain people who were not insane. They've both made some noise about suspecting each other, though haven't voted for each other yet. Nabbers was scanned by Eternum, so seems likely to be a confirmed scholar, while Devotary is not. Steel's response to the suggestion he might have been converted seems kinda touchy. I actually think it's a fair point that obviously someone was converted, and that Steel could have been a good one, even if I do not know whether or not I should trust Nabbers himself. Sorry I haven't posted much today, I have been kind of busy and exhausted so I've been mostly averaging one post a day.
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