UpperNotch Posted November 3, 2017 Report Share Posted November 3, 2017 Based on what we have learned about Re-Shephir in the latest chapter I've come up with a theory, could the Unmade all be modeled after the spren of the Night Radiants? To me it would make sense because there are 9 Unmade and with the Bondsmiths only bonding to the Stormfather there would be 9 "naturally occurring" spren. With Re-Shephir being discribed as a messed up kind of creationspren, I think that the other Unmade will be much like the other Orders' spren, only made by Odium. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catladyman Posted November 3, 2017 Report Share Posted November 3, 2017 I really like this idea. Just like Re-Shephir seemed to be able to produce/splinter smaller voidspren (like the one Shallan found in the wall), I wonder if the yellow spren with the Parshendi is the product of the Unmade version of honorspren. Just like Re-Shephir reminded Shallan of a corrupted creationspren, the yellow Spren seems to be leading/protecting the Parshendi without the sort of compassion and empathy we see from true honorspren. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crucible of Shards Posted November 3, 2017 Report Share Posted November 3, 2017 Not a bad idea, but it is cannon that there are three Bondsmith spren. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UpperNotch Posted November 4, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 4, 2017 4 hours ago, Crucible of Shards said: Not a bad idea, but it is cannon that there are three Bondsmith spren. Wait really? I don't know why, but I was under the impression that all the Bondsmiths had to bond with the Stormfather which was one of the reasons that Dalinar wouldn't have a blade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blacksmithki Posted November 4, 2017 Report Share Posted November 4, 2017 44 minutes ago, UpperNotch said: Wait really? I don't know why, but I was under the impression that all the Bondsmiths had to bond with the Stormfather which was one of the reasons that Dalinar wouldn't have a blade. I honestly was as well, besides isn't bondsmith the order closest to Honor? Why would it be the only one to bond only 1/3 Honor side Spren? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farnsworth Posted November 4, 2017 Report Share Posted November 4, 2017 Maybe the three spren of the bob smith are all of similar varieties? Not exactly like the stormfather (there was only one Honor) but similar? Then the unmade that is reverse of the Bondsmith spren is just the reverse of those three. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calderis Posted November 4, 2017 Report Share Posted November 4, 2017 @UpperNotch I think I've already forced this on @Blacksmithki, but have some WoBs. http://www.17thshard.com/forum/topic/58305-2017-03-2425-germany-leipzig-book-fair-minor-cosmere-spoilers/?do=findComment&comment=541560 Quote Questioner And there's one last question if I may: I'm really into swords and such. I couldn't help but notice king Elhokar's Blade. It's just... All the others are ornamented, and they may have some glyphs, but it is the only one where it is explicitly it is told that there are ten fundamental glyphs on it which are the glyphs of the orders. I read some of the chapters from Dalinar from Unfettered II, and I know how he got it for Elhokar. Is there also some more backstory to this Blade? Brandon Sanderson There's a backstory to every Blade and every one of them is special, that's the problem. But I will be exploring the origins of some of the Blades. Eventually. Not a ton, but a little bit. Questioner As it is ornamented in such a way... Could it be related to a Bondsmith? Brandon Sanderson Bondsmith's didn't have Blades. Questioner All of them? It's just... Maybe it was just the Stormfather... Brandon Sanderson No. That's a really good guess. Really good guess. I'm gonna RAFO Bondsmiths because you gonna learn a lot about them in the next book because it's the Bondsmith's book. That's a really good theory, but it's not true. Questioner But maybe there is at least something to it. Brandon Sanderson But there's a reason to it, why it has all the 10 orders. Quote Ghodicu The pocket companion states that there are three spren that can bond a person to make them into a bondsmith, the Stormfather being one of them. As far as I recall the books implied that the number was low, and implied heavily that it was around that number in an epigraph, but didn't actually have a straight confirmation. So, should I take that as canon? Brandon Sanderson Yes, you can take that as canon. They came to me for that information. yahasgaruna Sweet. I guess it hasn't been canonized which three spren these are? I seem to recall that the prevailing theory on 17th Shard was that Nightwatcher was one of them, and the third was that weird spren with too many faces that Axies the Collector looked at in the tWoK interlude. Brandon Sanderson RAFO. I too was a Bondsmith all bond the Stormfather believer. Mainly because the idea of three unique spren all granting the same surges bothers me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UpperNotch Posted November 4, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 4, 2017 Oh wow, thanks for that @Calderis, that's new info for me. Still, I'm pretty sure that it wouldn't mess too much with my theory. I'm kind of assuming that for the 9 unmade there isn't a Bondsmith foil anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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