What would happen if you burned malatium at Hoid?

[Steeldancer he/him]

What deep secrets of hoid would be revealed? What would he have been? I know nobody is going to have true answers, but I wonder if maybe his funky spiritual aspect would mess things up. 

[Scriptorian he/him]

Perhaps you'd get a malatium-shadow explosion, cosmetically similar to when two people use atium at each other? I figure he's so old and has had so many chances to remake himself, the normal two shadows would be insufficient. 

Follow up question, what happens if you burn malatium at a shardvessel?

[Chinsukolo]

Possibly same answer for both of them... you witness the Shattering and then possible alternate outcomes of who picked up what or how the Shards shattered (different intents).

 

[Steeldancer he/him]

But what if you burned malatium at the shard itself? Not the shardholder. Adonalsium revealed? 

[Calderis he/him]

1 hour ago, The Flash said:

But what if you burned malatium at the shard itself? Not the shardholder. Adonalsium revealed? 

I think you'd see an alternative possible intent from if Adonalsium had shattered along different lines. 

[Steeldancer he/him]

3 minutes ago, Calderis said:

I think you'd see an alternative possible intent from if Adonalsium had shattered along different lines. 

Whoa. That would be worth asking Brandon about. 

[happyman he/him]

13 hours ago, The Flash said:

What deep secrets of hoid would be revealed? What would he have been? I know nobody is going to have true answers, but I wonder if maybe his funky spiritual aspect would mess things up. 

I wonder if you wouldn't see him as one of the Vessels?  In Secret History, Leras implies that Hoid turned against them for some reason.  If he hadn't, that seems like one plausible outcome.

[Steeldancer he/him]

6 hours ago, happyman said:

I wonder if you wouldn't see him as one of the Vessels?  In Secret History, Leras implies that Hoid turned against them for some reason.  If he hadn't, that seems like one plausible outcome.

It is possible. He was offered a shard, but turned it down. 

[+Lewis Nethur He/Him]

On 6/11/2017 at 9:17 AM, The Flash said:

What deep secrets of hoid would be revealed? What would he have been? I know nobody is going to have true answers, but I wonder if maybe his funky spiritual aspect would mess things up. 

It's not cannon yet, but..Hoid's origin story in Liar of Partinel, describes what, in my opinion, would most likely be the greatest single turning point in his life:

Failing a bid for control of his clan and being taken in, civilized, and taught lightweaving by his master (also named Hoid).

If you burned malatium while looking at Hoid, I'd speculate that you'd see a wildman of the forest who knew nothing of the Cosmere, Investiture, or any of the other scholarly pursuits he enjoys now.  Compared to the wily, spacefaring, immortal wizard he's become, that would be pretty haunting to see side-by-side.  

 

[Steeldancer he/him]

3 hours ago, hwiles said:

It's not cannon yet, but..Hoid's origin story in Liar of Partinel, describes what, in my opinion, would most likely be the greatest single turning point in his life:

Failing a bid for control of his clan and being taken in, civilized, and taught lightweaving by his master (also named Hoid).

If you burned malatium while looking at Hoid, I'd speculate that you'd see a wildman of the forest who knew nothing of the Cosmere, Investiture, or any of the other scholarly pursuits he enjoys now.  Compared to the wily, spacefaring, immortal wizard he's become, that would be pretty haunting to see side-by-side.  

 

Ive read Liar. But I think this is definetly a question worth asking Brandon. 

[Curious Kid Dan]

On 6/11/2017 at 5:46 PM, Scriptorian said:

Perhaps you'd get a malatium-shadow explosion, cosmetically similar to when two people use atium at each other? I figure he's so old and has had so many chances to remake himself, the normal two shadows would be insufficient. 

Follow up question, what happens if you burn malatium at a shardvessel?

The malatium shadow explosion makes sense to me given his knowledge and (potential) world effecting abilities. Imagine if he had chosen to share his Realmatic knowledge with any main character of any of the worlds he visited? I think (this would be assuming the person burning the metal has the ability to comprehend what they are seeing, or simply process this vastly overloading wealth of information) this maybe have some adverse effects on the malatium burner...

[+ElephantEarwax he/him]

On 10/13/2017 at 10:57 PM, Curious Kid Dan said:

The malatium shadow explosion makes sense to me given his knowledge and (potential) world effecting abilities. Imagine if he had chosen to share his Realmatic knowledge with any main character of any of the worlds he visited? I think (this would be assuming the person burning the metal has the ability to comprehend what they are seeing, or simply process this vastly overloading wealth of information) this maybe have some adverse effects on the malatium burner...

Or, it could end up like Kel when he looked through the tendrils of the future. It just overloads him, even Fuzz has trouble reading those.

[Curious Kid Dan]

10 hours ago, ElephantEarwax said:

Or, it could end up like Kel when he looked through the tendrils of the future. It just overloads him, even Fuzz has trouble reading those.

A fair headache to say the least.

[+robardin he/him]

How about if Hoid could be forced somehow to burn Allomantic gold?

Heck, what would Era 2 Marsh experience from burning gold? Or Vin Era TLR?

 

[Podman]

Ummm... Vin did burn gold. In FE.

[Necessary Eagle she/her]

^I think robardin meant to put a dash there. Vin-Era TLR. As in, The Lord Ruler in the era of Vin.

[Podman]

Ahhh. That makes much more sense. Thanks for clearing that up.