StormblessDave Posted May 31, 2017 Report Share Posted May 31, 2017 This would be an interesting fight,wouldn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mestiv Posted May 31, 2017 Report Share Posted May 31, 2017 It would, but I cannot cast my vote until I see how Nightblood works against a Shardblade 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormblessDave Posted May 31, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 31, 2017 What is that quote?lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mestiv Posted May 31, 2017 Report Share Posted May 31, 2017 55 minutes ago, StormblessDave said: What is that quote?lol What quote? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormblessDave Posted May 31, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 31, 2017 Nvm I was mistaken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hemalurgic Headshot Posted May 31, 2017 Report Share Posted May 31, 2017 (edited) Uh guys... it's Nightblood. Though it makes me wonder with Syl. Would they have a conversation, her and Nightblood? An epic rap battle while Szeth and Kaladin fought? Yes. This is what the poll is really about: who would win in a rap battle, Syl or Nightblood? Edited May 31, 2017 by Hemalurgic_Headshot 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steeldancer Posted May 31, 2017 Report Share Posted May 31, 2017 14 minutes ago, Hemalurgic_Headshot said: Uh guys... it's Nightblood. Though it makes me wonder with Syl. Would they have a conversation, her and Nightblood? An epic rap battle while Szeth and Kaladin fought? Yes. This is what the poll is really about: who would win in a rap battle, Syl or Nightblood? They start rapping Hamilton. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeldan Posted May 31, 2017 Report Share Posted May 31, 2017 At the moment, I'm going with Kaladin, just because I know what he can do, and the way Nightblood works is going to be very different, and may not be very effective. We can assume that it will still cut through anything not living, but beyond that, we have no idea what other powers it may grant, if they will even be useful in combat, or if they may even be harmful to the wielder. Also, if it were more useful than a Shardblade with a Nahel Bond, I don't see why Naln would have given it to Szeth rather than keep it for himself, unless it conflicts with his own abilities/bond. Still, until the book comes out it's going to be very difficult to say for certain. I'm fully willing to admit that it might be so powerful that Kaladin won't even stand a chance against it. We shall see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Hoodie Mistborn Posted May 31, 2017 Report Share Posted May 31, 2017 I'm willing to bet that Szeth would not willingly fight Kaladin again... Kaladin might pursue and force the issue, but I dont' see that. happening any time soon, especially after Edgedancer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightofLight Posted May 31, 2017 Report Share Posted May 31, 2017 Interesting question. We know Kaladin is talented with a spear. He also is gaining more understanding with his lashings. However reading through szeths fight scenes, he has mastered multiple arts of combat including without his honor blade (when he had one). So imma say if they fought today it would be Szeth but later in the story Kaladin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calderis Posted May 31, 2017 Report Share Posted May 31, 2017 (edited) Well at the current moment in the books, I'd have to go with Kal. Until Szeth can invest, drawing Nightblood is a no go. Once Szeth is able to do that... Well Nightblood wins and everyone else loses. Can we just get a Nightblood option? Cause that's my vote. In one scenario, Nightblood kills Szeth. In the other, Nightblood kills Kal, and potentially Szeth. Edited May 31, 2017 by Calderis 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numuhukumakiaki'aialunamor Posted May 31, 2017 Report Share Posted May 31, 2017 Well Nightblood is WAY more invested than a shard blade and it eats investiture. Personally I would be worried for Syl because she might be damages badly if she comes in contact with Nightblood. That being said, Calderis is right, Szeth can't even draw Nightblood at the moment so Kal would win. Once/If Szeth becomes a real Skybreaker, then I would have to go with Szeth. It will be interesting to see if he does become a KR, I don't know if spren will react well towards Nightblood. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yata Posted June 1, 2017 Report Share Posted June 1, 2017 If Kal know a bit of Nightblood I could see the fight a Little balanced. Short but balanced....Szeth needs to win fast or Nightblood would discharge his Investiture's reserve Soon. If Kal doesn't know of Nightblood. Szeth win fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starla Posted June 1, 2017 Report Share Posted June 1, 2017 Would Nightblood attack Kaladin? I have a feeling Kaladin would fall into the non-evil category, like Vivenna and Lift, so Nightblood would leave him alone. Unless we're talking about Szeth fighting with Nightblood as a regular sword, rather than letting him loose to do his "let's kill some evil" thing. In that case I think Kaladin with Syl blade/spear would easily win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calderis Posted June 1, 2017 Report Share Posted June 1, 2017 37 minutes ago, Starla said: Would Nightblood attack Kaladin? I have a feeling Kaladin would fall into the non-evil category, like Vivenna and Lift, so Nightblood would leave him alone. I think they'd only be safe from the desire to pick him up and kill themselves/others with him. I'm pretty sure once Nightblood is drawn and in black smoke mode, the only person (relatively) safe is his wielder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retrorocket1 Posted June 1, 2017 Report Share Posted June 1, 2017 It was made pretty clear in warbreaker that if vasher didn't have any extra breaths to feed off of nightblood would feed off his divine breath and kill him. I see no reason why this wouldn't be true on roshar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muco Posted June 2, 2017 Report Share Posted June 2, 2017 Do we have any confirmation on how Nightblood would react to other sentient shard blades like Syl? We are assuming that Nightblood has some extra powers over Syl in Blade form, which I don't recall being addressed. In fact, Nightblood stays in one shape, Syl can turn into any shape. Nightblood needs lot of stormlight to wield where as Syl does not. Other than that we have no idea how Nightblood would affect radiants, i.e the way it affected normal people in Warbreaker where they picked it up and killed each other. Unless Nightblood can shoot lazers, I am not seeing how in actual sword fight with stormlight, it could be anything other than the talent that decides the fight! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calderis Posted June 2, 2017 Report Share Posted June 2, 2017 24 minutes ago, muco said: Do we have any confirmation on how Nightblood would react to other sentient shard blades like Syl? We are assuming that Nightblood has some extra powers over Syl in Blade form, which I don't recall being addressed. In fact, Nightblood stays in one shape, Syl can turn into any shape. Nightblood needs lot of stormlight to wield where as Syl does not. Other than that we have no idea how Nightblood would affect radiants, i.e the way it affected normal people in Warbreaker where they picked it up and killed each other. Unless Nightblood can shoot lazers, I am not seeing how in actual sword fight with stormlight, it could be anything other than the talent that decides the fight! Szeth draws Nightblood, black smoke ensues and kills everything in range. A range that will grow larger and larger until Szeth runs out of stormlight and dies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muco Posted June 2, 2017 Report Share Posted June 2, 2017 21 minutes ago, Calderis said: Szeth draws Nightblood, black smoke ensues and kills everything in range. A range that will grow larger and larger until Szeth runs out of stormlight and dies. BUT killing everything and killing a radiant are two completely different things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calderis Posted June 2, 2017 Report Share Posted June 2, 2017 When it kills by consuming investiture not really. It would just drain them of stormlight, then eat their soul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Extesian Posted June 2, 2017 Report Share Posted June 2, 2017 (edited) Yeah I think Nightblood is far more powerful than has been hinted at. Brandon said, directly comparing it to a Shardblade, that it can do really freaky things when consuming investiture. Quote QUESTION How much more powerful is Nightblood than a a regular Shardblade? BRANDON SANDERSON I haven't actually quantified that in my own mind so can't give an accurate comparison at this point. I will say that when he is fully consuming Investiture he can do some really freaky things. And I always think back to the painting in Warbreaker that shows Nightblood being wielded and basically waves of dead bodies around. I think Nightblood is effectively a WMD, with somewhat limited range, and accessing enough investiture. Being in sword form doesn't mean it's limited to direct contact. More generally Quote QUESTION What’s the most dangerous non-Shard thing in the cosmere? BRANDON SANDERSON [Answering very slowly, lots of ‘uh’s] Nightblood’s up there, Hoid is up there, but not deadly dangerous, a different type of dangerous, yeah no, what we know of, right now, those, those are in the running. Chasmfiends, chasmfiends are pretty nasty. Whitespines are a little more nasty probably. The… the Unmade are pretty nasty. Yeah. There’s a couple of mercenary troops that you haven’t met yet that are really quite, quite dangerous, I would list them as well. Edited June 2, 2017 by Extesian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormblessDave Posted June 2, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 2, 2017 27 minutes ago, Extesian said: Yeah I think Nightblood is far more powerful than has been hinted at. Brandon said, directly comparing it to a Shardblade, that it can do really freaky things when consuming investiture. And I always think back to the painting in Warbreaker that shows Nightblood being wielded and basically waves of dead bodies around. I think Nightblood is effectively a WMD, with somewhat limited range, and accessing enough investiture. Being in sword form doesn't mean it's limited to direct contact. More generally So nightblood is super powerful and no one stands a chance against it?Nightblood is definitely powerful but is it clear Brandon was talking about the radiants shardblade or the dead spren blades?There is a distinct difference between the two,nightblade isn't exactly usable in a duel(from what we've seen so far)and the fact that Kal can fly,lash(could he lash nightblood?) are additional factors we haven't looked into carefully,sure he can drain investiture,but before he can do much,I'm pretty sure he'd kill Szeth too,so I'm not too sure Szeth has too much of an advantage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calderis Posted June 2, 2017 Report Share Posted June 2, 2017 3 minutes ago, StormblessDave said: So nightblood is super powerful and no one stands a chance against it?Nightblood is definitely powerful but is it clear Brandon was talking about the radiants shardblade or the dead spren blades?There is a distinct difference between the two,nightblade isn't exactly usable in a duel(from what we've seen so far)and the fact that Kal can fly,lash(could he lash nightblood?) are additional factors we haven't looked into carefully,sure he can drain investiture,but before he can do much,I'm pretty sure he'd kill Szeth too,so I'm not too sure Szeth has too much of an advantage. He can't lash plate, so there's not a chance he could lash Nightblood. We've already been told that the Seons from Sel, would provide something similar to a Nahel Bond to their owner if they came to Roshar. So it's very safe to assume that Nightblood, who Brandon has described as a "Robot Spren," and who we know bonds to his wielder, is going to provide something similar to Szeth as well. Nightblood is the single most highly invested non-shard we have seen in the Cosmere. Nightblood is scary. Nightblood wins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormblessDave Posted June 2, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 2, 2017 11 hours ago, retrorocket1 said: It was made pretty clear in warbreaker that if vasher didn't have any extra breaths to feed off of nightblood would feed off his divine breath and kill him. I see no reason why this wouldn't be true on roshar. I see no reason Szeth would survive either,vasher could kill the others in war breaker because he was much more invested,however in Szeth vs Kal both will be highly invested,so Szeth will risk killing himself too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fakeout Posted June 2, 2017 Report Share Posted June 2, 2017 1 hour ago, Extesian said: QUESTION What’s the most dangerous non-Shard thing in the cosmere? BRANDON SANDERSON [Answering very slowly, lots of ‘uh’s] Nightblood’s up there, Hoid is up there, but not deadly dangerous, a different type of dangerous, yeah no, what we know of, right now, those, those are in the running. Chasmfiends, chasmfiends are pretty nasty. Whitespines are a little more nasty probably. The… the Unmade are pretty nasty. Yeah. There’s a couple of mercenary troops that you haven’t met yet that are really quite, quite dangerous, I would list them as well. I'm a bit confused by Brandon here. I would have expected something like a Fullborn to be up there because in most combat scenarios I can imagine they seem unbeatable. Also, he says whitespines are "a little more nasty probably" than chasmfiends? Hm. But that mercenary group sounds very interesting, looking forward to seeing them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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