kenod Posted January 18, 2017 Posted January 18, 2017 I think that this is some kind of foreshadowing, but it could just be that this was missed during the revisions. I hope that it is foreshadowing however. Anyway, great find.
Popular Post PeterAhlstrom he/him Posted January 18, 2017 Popular Post Posted January 18, 2017 We've known about this for a while. It's just a mistake. Pale green is right. 20
Paladin Brewer he/him Posted January 18, 2017 Author Posted January 18, 2017 Oh thank you for the quick response Peter. It wasn't my find, someone posted it on Facebook and I was curious.
Guest Posted January 18, 2017 Posted January 18, 2017 Thinking about eye color, do we actually know Dalinar's eye color? Correct me if I am wrong, but Gavilar's were pale green. I recall Brandon explaining he changed Elhokar's eye color to have it identical to his father's. But do we know about Dalinar??? I have tried to find a reference, I was dead sure it was stated, somewhere, they were blue, but I can't find a reference....
Vissy Posted January 20, 2017 Posted January 20, 2017 (edited) Well, Adolin has blue eyes, and genetically blue eyes are a regressive genotype so if even one parent has some other color like brown, it won't stay the same. So we can surmise that both Dalinar and Renarin have to have blue eyes as well. Edited January 20, 2017 by Rob Lucci
Jondesu he/him Posted January 20, 2017 Posted January 20, 2017 7 hours ago, Rob Lucci said: Well, Adolin has blue eyes, and genetically blue eyes are a regressive genotype so if even one parent has some other color like brown, it won't stay the same. So we can surmise that both Dalinar and Renarin have to have blue eyes as well. There's definitely something off about Roshar's genetics, though, so I wouldn't assume that particular trait is passed down the same way. It seems somewhat likely, but it's very possible their eyes are a different (light) color.
Guest Posted January 20, 2017 Posted January 20, 2017 I agree with Jondesu. The fact Adolin has light blue eyes doesn't imply either Dalinar nor Renarin have the same. I would also note that Gavilar had green eyes, as does Elhokar while Jasnah has violet eyes, like her mother. Renarin's eye color thus doesn't have to be identical to Adolin's and neither does Dalinar. For all we know, mother had light blue eyes and Adolin takes after her. I just found it strange it hasn't been canonized yet. There has been ample descriptions of Dalinar: we know he is tall, he is physically imposing, he has short cropped black hair which are graying at the temples, his face is unfortunate and his nose was broken several times. I however think we were never told which color were his eyes. I realized I have been thinking Dalinar's eyes were blue all along, but truth is, they might be green like Gavilar's.
Spoolofwhool Posted January 20, 2017 Posted January 20, 2017 (edited) 10 hours ago, Rob Lucci said: Well, Adolin has blue eyes, and genetically blue eyes are a regressive genotype so if even one parent has some other color like brown, it won't stay the same. So we can surmise that both Dalinar and Renarin have to have blue eyes as well. Roshar genetics are a bit different than ours. Exhibit A: Adolin has blond strands of hair and black strands of hair because his mother was blond and his father has dark hair. In our world, he would just have one uniform colour. Exhibit B: The bastard son of the king of Jah Keved is the child of a lighteyes and a darkeyes, and has a lighteye and a darkeye. Edited January 21, 2017 by Spoolofwhool
Guest Posted January 21, 2017 Posted January 21, 2017 11 minutes ago, Spoolofwhool said: Exhibit B: The child of a lighteyes and a darkeyes has a lighteye and a darkeye. Can. I am not sure it is a sure thing.
Spoolofwhool Posted January 21, 2017 Posted January 21, 2017 15 minutes ago, maxal said: Can. I am not sure it is a sure thing. I'm referring to specific examples, but I'll fix it to demonstrate that.
Eki Posted January 21, 2017 Posted January 21, 2017 1 hour ago, Spoolofwhool said: Exhibit B: The bastard son of the king of Jah Keved is the child of a lighteyes and a darkeyes, and has a lighteye and a darkeye. This is actually something that can happen in our world too. It could still be more common on Roshar, but I'm not so sure.
Spoolofwhool Posted January 21, 2017 Posted January 21, 2017 24 minutes ago, Eki said: This is actually something that can happen in our world too. It could still be more common on Roshar, but I'm not so sure. I know heterochromia is a thing, but it doesn't work quite in the same manner, I don't think.
Vissy Posted January 21, 2017 Posted January 21, 2017 Well, you've got to keep in mind that while heterochromia is usually genetic, it can sometimes also be acquired through disease, injury, etc. Seems to me that this is a nice question for Brandon. Though you're right, the races on Roshar are very different from the races on Earth, but the basic principle of recessive and dominant alleles shouldn't still be different.
Guest Posted January 21, 2017 Posted January 21, 2017 I really like to know which eye color Dalinar has. Now I realize we don't actually know, I kinda want to know
forgedpig Posted January 21, 2017 Posted January 21, 2017 Eye color is the product of multiple genes its more complicated than that. two brown eyed people can have a blue eye child if they had the correct recessive alleles 2
Szmit Posted January 21, 2017 Posted January 21, 2017 11 hours ago, Rob Lucci said: Well, you've got to keep in mind that while heterochromia is usually genetic, it can sometimes also be acquired through disease, injury, etc. Seems to me that this is a nice question for Brandon. Though you're right, the races on Roshar are very different from the races on Earth, but the basic principle of recessive and dominant alleles shouldn't still be different. Genetics surely works the same way, but I think rorsharian genotype doesn't have to be the same as ours just because we look similar (by beeing humans), so enteirely diffrient genes can cayse eye colour, especialy considering that the colour might have something to do with magic.
Vissy Posted January 21, 2017 Posted January 21, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, forgedpig said: Eye color is the product of multiple genes its more complicated than that. two brown eyed people can have a blue eye child if they had the correct recessive alleles True, though I don't think it's very likely that happened here. Edited January 21, 2017 by Rob Lucci
Charlie.x.3000 Posted January 23, 2017 Posted January 23, 2017 Roshar eye color genetics are obviously different than Earthling eye color genetics. Otherwise you could get lighteyes being born to darkeyes. Also, Earthlings don't have purple eye colour.
The One Who Connects he/him Posted January 23, 2017 Posted January 23, 2017 17 minutes ago, Charlie.x.3000 said: Also, Earthlings don't have purple eye color. They can, with a lack of pigment melanin from Albinism disease, or a genetic mutation. It's exceedingly rare, but it is technically possible. On a second note, for any geneticists on the Shard, say that there were naturally occurring genes for purple eye color, rather than only from mutations. If such a gene existed, it should follow the rules of eye color genetics as well yes? That could allow Brandon to not break the rules of genetics, but still have purple eyed individuals.
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