Pondering State of Sanderson 2016

[Glamdring804]

Yes! Snapshot is in the Reckonerverse! It's well on its way to becoming a baby Cosmere. 

[yurisses]

On 18/12/2016 at 1:55 AM, bleeder said:

I can see this as something that he's done. Just accidentally written a novel.

"Oops. Just wrote a 100,000-word book by accident."

That's the story of Bands of Mourning.

[Kaymyth she/her]

1 minute ago, yurisses said:

That's the story of Bands of Mourning.

Well, sort of.

Alloy of Law was, "Oops, I wrote a Mistborn book by accident."

Bands of Mourning was, "I was having trouble getting into writing Shadows of Self, so I wrote its sequel to get me warmed up."

[marsoupial they/them]

Hype

[Botanica she/her]

My first reaction:

[Guest]

Great update  For my part, I am glad he is having a more realistic schedule planned for SA4. Of course, the sooner, the better, but I have hated seeing SA3 being constantly postponed. I much prefer having the author tell me from the start it won't happen until several more years, gear myself for it and then, wow surprise, it is done early. I much, much, much prefer this approach to the opposite.

I am glad the Rithmatist 2 seems to be moving into the pipeline.

[Exalted]

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Warbreaker

No real motion on this one, folks. I’m sorry. We’ll get a second book some time, but don’t hold your breath. (emphasis mine)

*groan* I see what you did there...

[Green Hoodie Mistborn he/him]

3 hours ago, Glamdring804 said:

Yes! Snapshot is in the Reckonerverse! It's well on its way to becoming a baby Cosmere. 

I totally missed that... The Reckonerverse is more of a comicbook "multiverse" than universe though. It seems to be so far multiple realities of the same universe, which is cool but a little different than Cosmere. I don't expect to see a ton of overlap between the Reckoner Stories personally, maybe Apocalypse Guard, but they are a reality spanning group. 

As opposed to Cosmere where we have worldhoppers which are roughly equivalent to the AG in Reckoners, but we are headed to world interaction and "collision" or already have in Sixth of Dusk

[marsoupial they/them]

1 minute ago, Green Hoodie Mistborn said:

As opposed to Cosmere where we have worldhoppers which are roughly equivalent to the AG in Reckoners, but we are headed to world interaction and "collision" or already have in Sixth of Dusk

*loud coughing* I still think the Ones Above are Scadrians *more loud coughing*

[Fallen_Ash]

The problem is that by dropping Mistborn: Secret History on us, we'll always have that tiny shred of hope that maybe, maybe he'll suddenly release a secret project he didn't mention before.

So he says he'll only give us two new stories next year, but did he mean it? 

[marsoupial they/them]

Just now, Fallen_Ash said:

The problem is that by dropping Mistborn: Secret History on us, we'll always have that tiny shred of hope that maybe, maybe he'll suddenly release a secret project he didn't mention before.

So he says he'll only give us two new stories next year, but did he mean it? 

One of those stories will be a 400,000 word book that we've been promised for years, and will be so hugely spanning it blows our collective mind, so I'm pretty happy with that.

[Fallen_Ash]

17 minutes ago, bleeder said:

One of those stories will be a 400,000 word book that we've been promised for years, and will be so hugely spanning it blows our collective mind, so I'm pretty happy with that.

Okay you're right. I am beyond excited for Oathbringer. I'm just not a patient person (so being a Brandon fan is...good for me.)

[marsoupial they/them]

3 minutes ago, FiveLate said:

 

Did he just troll my troll thread?   A Call to Armrs or THEORY : Beards eat written prose. [Spoiler. Heavy Sarcasm]

 

Not intentionally; Brandon rarely gets on the Shard, for various reasons.

[The Quiet One]

38 minutes ago, FiveLate said:

Looks good to me....he claims 2, but I bet there will be at least 1 surprise novella or a couple short stories...

Here is a link to antonymns of Odium...by Mirriam Webster.....

https://www.merriam-webster.com/thesaurus/odium

Number two on the list is......dum dum dum...

I know I looked them up, are you being sarcastic? 'squints suspiciously'

Thanks for replying. I'm new to the forums so ya... want a cookie?

How'd you enjoy sauce 2016? Less info than I thought there would be. Curse you Oathbringer, I see you clogging my foresight!

[The Quiet One]

1 minute ago, FiveLate said:

No sarcasm....you had it posed as a question, so I just linked in more info in case you hadn't seen it.

Thanks!

[Glamdring804]

3 hours ago, Green Hoodie Mistborn said:

I totally missed that... The Reckonerverse is more of a comicbook "multiverse" than universe though. It seems to be so far multiple realities of the same universe, which is cool but a little different than Cosmere. I don't expect to see a ton of overlap between the Reckoner Stories personally, maybe Apocalypse Guard, but they are a reality spanning group. 

As opposed to Cosmere where we have worldhoppers which are roughly equivalent to the AG in Reckoners, but we are headed to world interaction and "collision" or already have in Sixth of Dusk

Which is why I called it a baby Cosmere.  I like that he's dedicating a small bit of his time to quick, cinematic action books. As he so aptly described it, the Cosmere is that premium, delicious, fancy steak dinner that you can tuck in to and take your time with, and the Reckonerverse is a quick burger that's cheaper, faster, and fatter, and shallower, but delicious nonetheless. 

[Rasarr she/her]

So, I finally managed to put aside some time to read State of the Sanderson... and still no Dark One  At least there's the Apocalypse Guard (which, IMO, looks far more interesting than the Reckoners) and that Silverlight novella came out of the left field, but is quite a pleasant surprise. Also, did we know that Snapshot is Reckonersverse? And can anyone tell me what "Soulburner" is?

[StormingTexan he/him]

Another year and still no beggining in sight for my most anticipated book Nightblood 

I too am glad to see a more realistic timeline for SA. It does make me wonder though how he will get everything done. If (and that's a big if) he can continue to release a SA novel very 3 years that puts book 10 around 2038. I'm assuming there will be a pretty decent break between SA 5 and SA 6 presumable to write Mistborn Era 3 so book 10 is probably more like 2040-2042. Then Dragonsteel and then Mistborn Era 4? Interestingly not a lot of info on Mistborn Era 3 and 4 just that Mistborn is on Hiatus after next Wax and Wayne book. That's not including all the other side projects mixed in. I'm just wondering if the entire Cosmere scope is a little too ambitious. Hopefully both I and Brandon live to be 100 to see it all! 

That being said excited to hear about Silverlight! 

[Pagerunner he/him]

1 hour ago, Rasarr said:

So, I finally managed to put aside some time to read State of the Sanderson... and still no Dark One  At least there's the Apocalypse Guard (which, IMO, looks far more interesting than the Reckoners) and that Silverlight novella came out of the left field, but is quite a pleasant surprise. Also, did we know that Snapshot is Reckonersverse? And can anyone tell me what "Soulburner" is?

Here's the first (and only other) description of Soulburner, from last year's SotS:

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This is an outline I developed last year during a lull—a kind of space-opera-fantasy-hybrid like Dune or Star Wars. The setting is awesome, one of my favorites. Very distinctive.

I don’t have a story for it yet though. I’m just putting it on here so that you know that wacky things are still bouncing around in my head, looking for a way out. It’s not something I’m going to release anytime soon, but if I ever do, you can point here and say, “Hey, I saw this first!”

 

[Mason Wheeler]

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The plan is to alternate Stormlight Books with Elantris sequels after I finish Wax and Wayne

Elantris sequels?  Plural?  This is the first I've heard of that!  Has anyone mentioned this before?  Last I heard, he was planning on a second Sel novel set in Fjordell, dealing with the failure of Jaddeth's empire to conquer Arelon and the evolution of Derethi doctrine from that point on.  But now there's going to be more?

[marsoupial they/them]

Just now, Mason Wheeler said:

Elantris sequels?  Plural?  This is the first I've heard of that!  Has anyone mentioned this before?  Last I heard, he was planning on a second Sel novel set in Fjordell, dealing with the failure of Jaddeth's empire to conquer Arelon and the evolution of Derethi doctrine from that point on.  But now there's going to be more?

Yeah, with Kiin's family as the main characters, and we're finally gonna meet Wyrn.

[Pagerunner he/him]

11 minutes ago, Mason Wheeler said:

Elantris sequels?  Plural?  This is the first I've heard of that!  Has anyone mentioned this before?  Last I heard, he was planning on a second Sel novel set in Fjordell, dealing with the failure of Jaddeth's empire to conquer Arelon and the evolution of Derethi doctrine from that point on.  But now there's going to be more?

Yeah, we've known for a number of years that Elantris was planned to be three books, and both even made it onto the State of the Sanderson publication projection last year. The plot hook for the sequel is quite old (from back when Elantris was first published). I just discovered right now a really peculiar WoB from a Wheel of Time signing, that Elantris 2 was going to be titled 'Dragonriders.' I'm not sure how accurate of a paraphrase that WoB is; it says that there were going to be 3 sequels all released in 2015 about side characters in the city of Dakhor. I can see how to stretch it to get it mostly consistent with what we knew of Brandon's plans; he says 'trilogy,' it gets interpreted as 3 new books. He says he wants one out in 2015, it gets taken as they're all out then. But the title, that's something I hadn't seen before, and I don't know where that would have come from.

[Argent he/him]

Huh, it's weird that I've seen none of this...

[Mason Wheeler]

23 minutes ago, Argent said:

Huh, it's weird that I've seen none of this...

Yeah, me neither.  I really should remember if it was in last year's SOTS, but I totally don't!

[Pagerunner he/him]

So, Brandon cut back on his projected release schedule to only go through 2020, since in the past he's been a little... let's say 'optimistic' and leave it at that. (Has anyone even heard the word 'skiwampus' before?) But it seems he's accepted that Stormlight books will be a 3-year affair each, so I have a little more confidence in this assumption. So, I've gone ahead and extrapolated out well beyond what is reasonable, with the following assumptions:

• During regular Stormlight publication, Brandon will release one Stormlight novel and one other cosmere novel every 3 years.
• During post-Stormlight publication (and the interlude between SA5 and SA6), Brandon will release one cosmere novel every year.
• YA and novellas are included in the writing time for the cosmere novels (a.k.a. recess is on the schedule). They are left off the publication estimates, since they are not prerequisites.

So, here's when I expect we'll finally finish up the cosmere sequence: between 2046 and 2052.

I would say this is a rather conservative estimate; as Brandon continues to improve as a writer, he may very well be able to cut down the time it takes to get a Stormlight book out, or somehow manage to keep himself from writing each one longer than the last. He could also potentially slow down on some of his YA stories, finding time to add an extra cosmere novel or two. But, it could also go the other way and stretch even farther; because of the way Brandon writes, slips in this schedule are likely. I've assumed they'll happen generally like they did this year, where a Stormlight book stretches longer, or like with Wax & Wayne where Brandon decides to throw a while new book in, which he's threatened to do with Elantris 2 in 2018. He may also need to write some more White Sands drafts, if he wants to keep the graphic novel publication pipeline full; they wouldn't take as long as a 'real' book (no offense), but they could still delay Stormlight 4. Rearranging the schedule is one thing (writing Elantris 2 before Stormlight 4 wouldn't affect Mistborn 3.1), but because the Stormlight series is a prerequisite to Dragonsteel, adding in new surprise books (like the ones listed in Other Cosmere Novels) would push the whole thing back.

I assume, when he writes his remaining big trilogies (Mistborn, Dragonsteel, and Mistborn again) that he'll power through without mixing another cosmere book in the middle of a trilogy. I've also assumed that he'll get himself too excited once he starts finishing up certain big series, and he won't take time for a break cosmere book. (Stormlight 10 right after Stormlight 9, Mistborn 4.1 right after Dragonsteel 3, those kinds of things), but he may need to stretch them out if he needs to fit some novels he hasn't written yet (especially stuff like this new Threnody novel or Aether of Night before the Mistborn finale). So, when I've totaled up the possible slips I identified, I get 6 years. So, that's why there's all that blank space at the bottom of the timeline. Room to breathe.

So, in my estimate, I've left room for at least two cosmere novels, which could be anything. They might be standalones that have been churning in Brandon's brain since he was a kid. They might be more Mistborn excursions. But I don't know which of his planned Other Cosmere Novels will actually be novels, and which ones might be novellas (which wouldn't push back the rest of the schedule), which I think is the current plan for Silence Divine. Aether of Night might make a great graphic novel adaption to follow White Sand. But, the way I see it, Brandon can definitely write two of these books in the Stormlight back half without slowing down the overall publication schedule.

EDIT: Oh, by the way, the numbers to the left of the timeline is Brandon's age. Very doable.

Edited December 20, 2016 by Pagerunner