Long Game 23: The Siege of Luthadel

[Mailliw73 he/him]

9 hours ago, Arraenae said:

 

@Mailliw73, if your Penrod friend Nyali had dropped us a PM by way of Alv, maybe we could have coordinated the attack on Venture faster. Or you could have gotten Alv to give us an anonymous message with us a key to respond with.

If whittling down Venture was so important to you, a few vials (in another faction, no less) should have been nothing to you. Which makes me wonder why you are so miffed that it failed.

Sorry, PMs couldn't be made till last night. And they don't get started till the days starts. How on earth did you expect me to talk to you? I can't talk to Alv any easier than you. 

I never said I was miffed. You're the one who's mad at me because you guys only made a decision in the last couple minutes. 

@jaimeleecee I already gave you the name of a Cett and put her up for the lynch. Why switch to Joe? First, he's not a Cett, I'll promise that. 

I'm fairly certain Lopen was killed because everyone figured Aman would be protected so they went for another Venture. 

[jaimeleecee she/her]

Well, there goes that Idea, Joe Maill.  Rae is not a Cett either, I'll promise you that. Got any other suggestions?

Edited July 8, 2016 by jaimeleecee

[Mailliw73 he/him]

Just now, jaimeleecee said:

Well, there goes that Idea, Joe Maill.  Rae is not a Cett either, I'll promise you that. Got any other suggestions?

She's not? She's sure acting like one. 

Bard's one too. 

[Nyali she/her]

24 minutes ago, jaimeleecee said:

 

@Nyali You're missing the point, it wasn't a failed seeking. Lopen was killed this past night cycle, so there were no results to his seeking, he was killed when Joe was his target for seeking. 

Whoops. Shows how well I can read. I saw "protected from a scanning" and thought you meant he was smoked. It's the morning - reading is hard.

[jaimeleecee she/her]

@Mailliw73 Nope try again, oh and I just wanted to add that being "fairly certain" that that is why Lopen was killed isn't exactly evidence either, it does make for a really good cover though, to justify killing someone that might be outing a Spiked.  

1 minute ago, Nyali said:

Whoops. Shows how well I can read. I saw "protected from a scanning" and thought you meant he was smoked. It's the morning - reading is hard.

 No worries

Edited July 8, 2016 by jaimeleecee

[Mailliw73 he/him]

You guys were really trying to play me that hard? @HouseVenture

[jaimeleecee she/her]

Well yeah, I mean after what Aman pulled, doesn't it make sense that people would try to separate themselves from him.. especially since our whole faction was going to punished for one persons actions.. Anyway, we are trying to lynch a Cett, because it would be the most strategic option at this point, unfortunately outing them is the only way to prevent this strategy from failing by losing one of them instead. I probably could have come up with some rational for why I know they are not Cett but not Venture either, but what would be the point? You'd figure it out eventually anyway.  

[Mailliw73 he/him]

They're not Cett or Venture? *skeptical*

[jaimeleecee she/her]

Just now, Mailliw73 said:

They're not Cett or Venture? *skeptical*

*facepalm* I said I could have come up with some rational to say they are neither, but I chose to tell the truth. Come on now, read carefully  

[Straw he/him]

I shall speak for house Cett.

[Mailliw73 he/him]

3 minutes ago, jaimeleecee said:

*facepalm* I said I could have come up with some rational to say they are neither, but I chose to tell the truth. Come on now, read carefully  

Sorry I'm at work, so only skimming.  Venture? That's what I was thinking till that last line. It threw me. 

Edit: Ah, just reread that post. Got it. Dang. Well done, you two. Especially Bard. You got me. 

Edited July 8, 2016 by Mailliw73
I'm stupid :p

[Burnt Spaghetti she/her]

Hrm. I wanted to do a more meaningful vote this time but its 2:45am and i want sleep okay?? my meaningless vote is going on elbereth this time.

Now for sleep.

[Mailliw73 he/him]

@jaimeleecee I think Straw just offered himself to be lynched. Rae. 

[jaimeleecee she/her]

*Please read carefully before you respond guys  This is long winded I'm sorry* 

Okay, I understand I’m biased because Aman is my teammate, but for every non-Cett voting for him, please do me a solid and ask yourselves if punishing him, even though he’s talking with the GM about finding a pinch hitter and not posting (which is completely removing the entire reason people decided to get rid of him in the first place) is more important than making sure Cett doesn’t get the leg up on the rest of us? Because that is exactly what is going to happen. I also just want to put out there that Aman is working on giving up his spot in the game mostly because he doesn't want him and his reputation to define Venture, and attempting to give the rest of us a fair chance.

Anyway, Aman may have lied about some things to save himself, but that is not the intent of Venture. We are not a house of murder and lies, unlike some of you have said, despite the results of his actions. I am being honest about my faction, as well as pretty much just handed you all the names of two team mates on a silver platter. And once again, the only reason we attacked anyone last night is because we believed that we were going to get ganged up on... we decided to send all of our koloss against Lekal, that way when they attacked we would lose none to defending.. since we would likely lose a member anyway. Instead it was an all out battle between us two, and our numbers are really not looking good right now. We have no idea where Penrod stands, but given they were the first factions to lose not one, but two players, we are guessing you can’t beat, or even defend from Cett, either. Both our House and Lekal know that Cett has 7 koloss. Like I said earlier, the only other option would be for all of us to attack them at night. Of course we’ve already pointed out the issues with openly discussing that. If we were to follow through with a plan like that, at least one of our Houses, but more likely all of them, would lose a member too, and we’d be right back to where we started.

So far Cett has been hiding from the spotlight, and it’s working for them. We can’t let them get any further ahead or else they will eventually trample us. It’s unlikely that Straw is Spiked, given he just volunteered to be their face (which actually made me lol, just the way he said it ). But we know that Burnt is on Straw’s team and besides her vote on PK on D1 (the actual vote that made it so PK couldn’t save himself, despite Aman trying to help PK get it back to a tie) she’s been remaining entirely neutral, making self-proclaimed pointless votes (like she just did). A pretty good tactic for a spiked, isn’t it? Either way, it helps even out the odds for everyone if we lynch her, or another Cett if anyone has a better suggestion. I don't think that Straw is strategically a good choice, because of his low activity level and his inability to be in doc, he probably is not contributing to his team as much as others. And once again I'd rather go for someone that might also be a spiked, just seems like a better target all around (in a way even Cett would be gaining from losing their mole, if that is the case).

[Straw he/him]

2 hours ago, jaimeleecee said:

Well, there goes that Idea, Joe Maill.  Rae is not a Cett either, I'll promise you that. Got any other suggestions?

Jaime, Rae is Cett. I am now very suspicious of you.

Edited July 8, 2016 by Straw

[jaimeleecee she/her]

Just now, Straw said:

Jaime, Rae is Cett.

hahahahaha 

[Straw he/him]

Brx mxvw zdvwhg wlph. 

[jaimeleecee she/her]

>.> edit after my response, when Rae is on next I'm sure she'd be happy to confirm just for that reason alone, however nice attempt at confusing people to take the heat off your faction. 

Edited July 8, 2016 by jaimeleecee

[Elbereth she/her]

On July 3, 2016 at 11:12 PM, Mailliw73 said:

Hey, that's not unbalanced.  You did it once, yourself. 

Yes, and look how well that turned out for all involved.  

On July 4, 2016 at 11:09 AM, Arraenae said:

Maybe. It depends on a few things. You still haven't described Thanata...

Apologies. Tall. Not particularly pretty. Dark hair, I'd say. Uh... not sure what else you want of me? Stern-looking, I guess. Harsh.

On July 5, 2016 at 10:19 PM, Arraenae said:

Ri took sipped her drink. When she set the glass down, she noticed a young girl dressed in navy blue sitting near Ri with pen and paper in hand, looking wistfully into the distance.

“If only I knew his name,” the girl sighed. 

Ri glanced at the girl. She wasn’t supposed to engage with the nobles, just observe, but this was a chance for easy money. Lovesick fools always paid well. “I could tell you his House,” Ri said. “Or his name, or his address. Ten boxings, please.”
One day, these assumptions will be the downfall of Rima Tellé.

Sandhya blinked at the girl sitting near her. "Really? Ten boxings, for a name that anyone in this room could probably tell me? That's a bit ridiculous. And I don't need his House or his address, for your information. The first even I know, and what good would the second do me? So I could go visit his grave sometime?" She shook her head, getting up. "Ten boxings, really," she sniffed. "For a name! I just wanted it so I could pay him proper tribute, by the Lord Ruler!" 

She shook her head and started heading towards the balcony. She needed some air. She was trying to find the Inquisitor, not get involved in these petty squabbles. They didn't matter. 

None of it mattered, except for making the Inquisitor pay. 

---

Rae, you can call her back or not. I left it ambiguous in case you're too busy travelling or whatever to respond.

Sorry for being so quiet recently. My internship's taking up a lot more of my time than I'm used to, and... other things are happening, too. >> I'll try to post a bit more than I have been, though.

41 minutes ago, Burnt Spaghetti said:

Hrm. I wanted to do a more meaningful vote this time but its 2:45am and i want sleep okay?? my meaningless vote is going on elbereth this time.

Now for sleep.

 Burnt. 

[dowanx]

9 minutes ago, jaimeleecee said:

*Please read carefully before you respond guys  This is long winded I'm sorry* 

Okay, I understand I’m biased because Aman is my teammate, but for every non-Cett voting for him, please do me a solid and ask yourselves if punishing him, even though he’s talking with the GM about finding a pinch hitter and not posting (which is completely removing the entire reason people decided to get rid of him in the first place) is more important than making sure Cett doesn’t get the leg up on the rest of us? Because that is exactly what is going to happen. I also just want to put out there that Aman is working on giving up his spot in the game mostly because he doesn't want him and his reputation to define Venture, and attempting to give the rest of us a fair chance.

Anyway, Aman may have lied about some things to save himself, but that is not the intent of Venture. We are not a house of murder and lies, unlike some of you have said, despite the results of his actions. I am being honest about my faction, as well as pretty much just handed you all the names of two team mates on a silver platter. And once again, the only reason we attacked anyone last night is because we believed that we were going to get ganged up on... we decided to send all of our koloss against Lekal, that way when they attacked we would lose none to defending.. since we would likely lose a member anyway. Instead it was an all out battle between us two, and our numbers are really not looking good right now. We have no idea where Penrod stands, but given they were the first factions to lose not one, but two players, we are guessing you can’t beat, or even defend from Cett, either. Both our House and Lekal know that Cett has 7 koloss. Like I said earlier, the only other option would be for all of us to attack them at night. Of course we’ve already pointed out the issues with openly discussing that. If we were to follow through with a plan like that, at least one of our Houses, but more likely all of them, would lose a member too, and we’d be right back to where we started.

So far Cett has been hiding from the spotlight, and it’s working for them. We can’t let them get any further ahead or else they will eventually trample us. It’s unlikely that Straw is Spiked, given he just volunteered to be their face (which actually made me lol, just the way he said it ). But we know that Burnt is on Straw’s team and besides her vote on PK on D1 (the actual vote that made it so PK couldn’t save himself, despite Aman trying to help PK get it back to a tie) she’s been remaining entirely neutral, making self-proclaimed pointless votes (like she just did). A pretty good tactic for a spiked, isn’t it? Either way, it helps even out the odds for everyone if we lynch her, or another Cett if anyone has a better suggestion. I don't think that Straw is strategically a good choice, because of his low activity level and his inability to be in doc, he probably is not contributing to his team as much as others. And once again I'd rather go for someone that might also be a spiked, just seems like a better target all around (in a way even Cett would be gaining from losing their mole, if that is the case).

I completely agree we can't let Cett get too far ahead, but the logic we should all attack them at night doesn't make sense ;p, at least not yet.  If Venture, Lekal and Cett all attack and leave themselves open all Cett has to do is attack each house with minimum.  Yes they lose a member, but they take out 3 rival members.  

That being said I really do want to vote for a Cett member, but Aman pulled something that he knew would get him lynched and rightly so.  I feel bad he feels like he has to drop out of the game as actions like he did are part of what makes SE so much fun to play and watch.  He rolled the dice and if he was right about Orlok everything would be different.   

I am going to go reread the thread with a focus on what Burnt and Straw has said so far this game.  If I can convince myself that either has a decent chance of being spiked I will vote for them however my vote is most likely going for Aman.

 

[jaimeleecee she/her]

2 minutes ago, dowanx said:

I completely agree we can't let Cett get too far ahead, but the logic we should all attack them at night doesn't make sense ;p, at least not yet.  If Venture, Lekal and Cett all attack and leave themselves open all Cett has to do is attack each house with minimum.  Yes they lose a member, but they take out 3 rival members.  
 

Completely agree, that's why we are suggesting doing it this way rather than trying to attack them,

2 minutes ago, dowanx said:

That being said I really do want to vote for a Cett member, but Aman pulled something that he knew would get him lynched and rightly so.  I feel bad he feels like he has to drop out of the game as actions like he did are part of what makes SE so much fun to play and watch.  He rolled the dice and if he was right about Orlok everything would be different.   

I am going to go reread the thread with a focus on what Burnt and Straw has said so far this game.  If I can convince myself that either has a decent chance of being spiked I will vote for them however my vote is most likely going for Aman.
 

And we understand that this is how you all feel, but remember with a pinch hitter you are not really voting for Aman anymore, you are voting for whoever would be replacing him.  Killing him is punishing the rest of us, not even him.

[dowanx]

4 minutes ago, jaimeleecee said:

Completely agree, that's why we are suggesting doing it this way rather than trying to attack them,

And we understand that this is how you all feel, but remember with a pinch hitter you are not really voting for Aman anymore, you are voting for whoever would be replacing him.  Killing him is punishing the rest of us, not even him.

I don't think killing him now is punishing the rest of you unfairly merely bringing it back to what it would have been.  

Ren is Aman getting a pinch hitter?  

Edited July 8, 2016 by dowanx

[jaimeleecee she/her]

7 minutes ago, dowanx said:

I don't think killing him now is punishing the rest of you merely bringing it back to what it would have been.  

Ren is Aman getting a pinch hitter?  

I believe we are waiting to see if he does get lynched, because what would be the point to bring someone in to die right now?

Also you are, and what I mean by that is since we lost a member last night, its not bringing it back to anything, its crippling us further while letting Cett remain strong.

Edit: I should add that I feel like it was actually Lopen who was punished for Aman's actions, by association, if Maill is right that he was killed solely for faction reasons alone.  But I am still not entirely convinced it wasn't because of his seeking. 

Edited July 8, 2016 by jaimeleecee

[Mailliw73 he/him]

I'm all for lynching a Cett. Aman didn't do anything too damning, in my opinion. Like I said, I've done that exact thing before. Straw. Burnt. 

Edit: Jaime, if it was because of his seeking, you should start analyzing your own House. 

Edited July 8, 2016 by Mailliw73

[Jo and the Bush all/any]

I guess I never got around to posting that my Internet connection finally got fixed. I should have full access now. And I have been lurking for a while, but not because I was converted, but because I was majorly second guessing my entire faction.

On night 1 and 2, I was asked to Smoke the same player, the player who I'm currently worried is the inquisitor. (I'm a Smoker BTW. I'm not going to be smoking anyone, ever, since that only helps the inquisitor and the spiked at this point.) When I told the player that I was suspecting them of being the inquisitor because of the smoking, and because of their actions in thread, They replied that the smoking was to prevent vote manipulations, which is a perfectly valid faction reason, but they didn't deny being the inquisitor, which has always been in my opinion, a major piece of evidence. Eliminators are surprisingly unwilling to deny being an eliminator, unless backed into a corner. (Right hoid? :P)

I'm still withholding the name until I can decide whether this is an actual suspicion of the person, or just my conditioned wariness and paranoia of them. (Which probably will tell a few players who I'm talking about, but I'm fine with those few players knowing.)